what the f*ck

[fatty fat fat]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

not listed n e where

     

[michigancat]

we were next 4 out on Friday.

[fatty fat fat]

we were next 4 out on Friday.

yeah. it doesn't make sense. like, every1 else lost too. I think he has sources that told him, "dude. we ain't taking ksnake" or something.

[CrushNasty]

Please note that today's projections represent the outcome of a mock bracketing exercise conducted yesterday by the NCAA, with representatives of ESPN serving as members of the Division I men's basketball committee. Results used were through Saturday, Feb. 21, and all conference tournament outcomes were for demonstration purposes only. Joe Lunardi's regular Bracketology returns on Friday, with the Rundown below representing his actual evaluations through Sunday, Feb. 22.

[Chingon]

The dream is dead guys.  

It was sweet while it lasted, but if we wanna get in we have to win the tournament it seems.

[fatty fat fat]

Christ. That's even worse.

thx 4 the note tho

[Pett]

Should've beaten ku!!!

[michigancat]

well, time to move on to NIT-ology, I guess.

http://www.nitology.com/bracket21709.html

^Possible interesting 2nd round storyline w/ Andy Kennedy and Frank Martin being reunited.

[ksu_FAN]

#320 OOC SOS is getting play now, among other crappy aspects of our resume.

Kansas State [19-8 (7-5), RPI: 76, SOS: 120] The Wildcats have won eight of their last nine games, including a 50-46 victory at Iowa State on Saturday. But Kansas State's overall body of work is about as unimpressive as its latest road win. The Wildcats are 3-3 against RPI top-50 opponents, beating Missouri (home), Texas (road) and Texas A&M (road). But the Wildcats have very little to show the selection committee in terms of nonconference victories. Kansas State's nonconference schedule is ranked No. 320 in the country, and 13 of its 18 victories came against foes ranked outside the RPI top 100. Kansas State is 7-5 against Big 12 opponents but might need a 10-6 finish because of its mediocre computer numbers. The Wildcats still play road games at Missouri and Oklahoma State and home games against Nebraska and Colorado.

[fatty fat fat]

I wonder how many other bubble team have two wins vs top 50 rpi on the road.


but...they played really bad teams!

we need to find a way to manipulate the RPI.

[Bullfn33]

I knew it was going to be like this right after we lost to Oregon. As I've said before, my advice is to forget about the NCAAs until we have reached at least 10 league wins. It all has to do with our horribly bad non-conference schedule and outcomes. The committee puts way too much stock in non-conference performance and computer rankings and not nearly enough into what teams evolve into over the course of a season. This is where football gets it right and basketball fails when evaluating teams for the post-season.

[fatty fat fat]

The committee puts way too much stock in non-conference performance and computer rankings and not nearly enough into what teams evolve into over the course of a season. This is where football gets it right and basketball fails when evaluating teams for the post-season.

qffft.

the amount of emphasis on non-con games is hilariously stupid.

[CrushNasty]

more notes...

People often ask how the actual NCAA selection process differs from Bracketology. I usually joke that it's a whole lot easier to get one person (me!) to agree on something than it is to get 10 people to agree.

Yesterday, with a mix of real and demonstration game results presented by the NCAA staff, a group of ESPN types played the role of the Division I men's basketball committee and produced the mock bracket displayed here. Before folks start driving off bridges in certain areas of the country, a few clarifications are in order:

• In the exercise, Gonzaga won the West Coast Conference tournament. Saint Mary's lost in the championship game without star guard Patty Mills, who never returned from his injury. The Gaels still received some at-large consideration but did not make the final at-large ballot.

• Butler won the Horizon League automatic qualifier. Without that, the Bulldogs clearly had enough support in the room to have been selected at-large if needed.

• Florida and Georgetown made lengthy runs to win the SEC and Big East tournaments, respectively. The Hoyas became the first team ever to win five games in five days to secure their automatic bid.

• Minnesota defeated Illinois for the Big Ten championship. The Gophers likely would have missed the field otherwise.

• Niagara defeated Siena for the MAAC championship. This led to the most lengthy and passionate discussion of the day; namely, whether to vote the Saints into the field as an at-large. In a very close vote, Notre Dame became the final at-large team and Siena just missed the field (for the record, with the Irish reaching only the quarterfinals of the fictitious Big East tournament, I voted for Siena).

• Creighton received some at-large consideration after losing to Northern Iowa in the Missouri Valley championship game -- but not enough.

• Davidson (Southern Conference) and Utah State (WAC) failed to secure automatic bids in their leagues and received little to no at-large consideration.

On Friday, we will return to your regularly scheduled programming. In the meantime, don't shoot the messenger!

Even though a Mizzou loss might take us off his board completely too.  

But w/ a win, we would have to be in both this mock committee's and his projections somewhere.  (even though this mock committee was probably a bunch of ass-clowns to begin with.  We got Beebe on deck now!

[michigancat]

remember when everyone was assigned conferences and we researched their bubble chances?  That was funny.  Clams did a great job w/ the Patriot(?) League.

[fatty fat fat]

But w/ a win, we would have to be in both this mock committee's and his projections somewhere. (even though this mock committee was probably a bunch of ass-clowns to begin with. We got Beebe on deck now!

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure gottlieb said there were some actual members on the staff.

I hate my life.  

[michigancat]

The committee puts way too much stock in non-conference performance and computer rankings and not nearly enough into what teams evolve into over the course of a season. This is where football gets it right and basketball fails when evaluating teams for the post-season.

qffft.

the amount of emphasis on non-con games is hilariously stupid.

If it used real computer rankings (Pomeroy), we'd be cool IMO.

[ksu_FAN]

The committee puts way too much stock in non-conference performance and computer rankings and not nearly enough into what teams evolve into over the course of a season. This is where football gets it right and basketball fails when evaluating teams for the post-season.

qffft.

the amount of emphasis on non-con games is hilariously stupid.

If it used real computer rankings (Pomeroy), we'd be cool IMO.

Yes and no.  Our overall ranking looks much sweeter (#37!), but otherwise fewer wins over the Top 50 (2) and still a very poor OOC SOS (#328).

I did hear some selection folks on with Katz on his podcast, and one of them did say they look at last 12 games, so I suppose we could have that and our road record going for us.

[cireksu]

the sos talk is very early bcsish.

[catzacker]

we're pretty much in/out before the conference tourney.  in '06/07 the committee basically didn't give a flying f*ck what we did, short of getting to the conf tourney final.  if we should win the remaining 4, we'd be 11-1 in the last 12 with 5 wins over top 50 rpi (4 on the road), which would be redic.  

[ksu_FAN]

we're pretty much in/out before the conference tourney.  in '06/07 they committee basically didn't give a flying f*ck what we did, short of getting to the conf tourney final.  if we should win the remaining 4, we'd be 11-1 in the last 12 with 5 wins over top 50 rpi (4 on the road), which would be redic.  

Yeah.  But that "if" will blow up when MU wins 85-72 wed.

[catzacker]

we're pretty much in/out before the conference tourney.  in '06/07 they committee basically didn't give a flying f*ck what we did, short of getting to the conf tourney final.  if we should win the remaining 4, we'd be 11-1 in the last 12 with 5 wins over top 50 rpi (4 on the road), which would be redic.  

Yeah.  But that "if" will blow up when MU wins 85-72 wed.

goddammit.  I wanted to believe.  thanks a pant load, _Fan.

[TAFNA Dude]

we're pretty much in/out before the conference tourney.  in '06/07 the committee basically didn't give a flying f*ck what we did, short of getting to the conf tourney final.  if we should win the remaining 4, we'd be 11-1 in the last 12 with 5 wins over top 50 rpi (4 on the road), which would be redic.  

+1

if we're going dancing one of two things has to happen.

1) we win out the regular season
2) we make the finals in the conference tourney.

the committee really doesn't give a flying &@#% about the first two rounds of conference tourney.  they probably don't even look at the results.

[kougar24]

Yeah.  But that "if" will blow up when MU wins 85-72 wed.

Spot on predic. in my opin.

[ksu_FAN]

we're pretty much in/out before the conference tourney.  in '06/07 they committee basically didn't give a flying f*ck what we did, short of getting to the conf tourney final.  if we should win the remaining 4, we'd be 11-1 in the last 12 with 5 wins over top 50 rpi (4 on the road), which would be redic.  

Yeah.  But that "if" will blow up when MU wins 85-72 wed.

goddammit.  I wanted to believe.  thanks a pant load, _Fan.

Sorry.

As much as we don't want to believe it, "fastest 40 minutes" has a pretty good team this year.  Especially at home.  I hope the Katz prove me wrong, but I think MU wins comfortably.

[pissclams]

remember when everyone was assigned conferences and we researched their bubble chances?  That was funny.  Clams did a great job w/ the Patriot(?) League.

yes, let's do it again (?)  i will handle Pat League responsibilities.  

[michigancat]

there are no absolutes in this bullsh*t, this early.  IMO.

Too many factors across the bubble to accurately say "A win/loss against XXXXXX makes/breaks our chances". (in other words, time to pick a conference and research, jackasses)

[TAFNA Dude]

Dibs on Horizon.  (don't want coolhawks stealing it)

[pissclams]

Dibs on Horizon.  (don't want coolhawks stealing it)

 

[mcmwcat]

basically how i see it.

win 2/4 => bottom of bubble teams.  have to get to conf final to get on top end of bubble.  but still would be on bubble.
win 3/4 => bubble.  still may have to get to finals to get in as we learned in 07.  but 5 conf road wins (3 against top 50) looks v good
win 4/4 => in no matter what happens in tourney.

[ksuwildcats80591]

Dibs on meac