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Author Topic: I like Ron Prince and really want to see him succeed at KSU  (Read 3268 times)

October 02, 2006, 05:41:48 PM
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He seems like a wannabe politician.

He is so easy to hate since he is not my teams coach.

It seems that he might be easy to ridicule for you people since, lets face it, hes gotta be Snyder V 2.0
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October 02, 2006, 05:46:37 PM
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Well, it's cute you think that way...but everyone looks good when they aren't the ones taking the snaps.

5-27....2-10...

Yeah, Meier looked just fabulous in '04 as a RS-SO (143.6ypg) and AE looked so terrible as a RS-FR (151.7ypg).  There's no reason to believe that AE would have made any progress. 

LOL.

Efficiency

Meier in 2004: 121.51
Evridge in 2005: 104.44 (btw, webb was at 145.00)

Why did evridge even play last year?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 02, 2006, 05:55:20 PM
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Well, it's cute you think that way...but everyone looks good when they aren't the ones taking the snaps.

5-27....2-10...

Yeah, Meier looked just fabulous in '04 as a RS-SO (143.6ypg) and AE looked so terrible as a RS-FR (151.7ypg). There's no reason to believe that AE would have made any progress.

LOL.

Efficiency

Meier in 2004: 121.51
Evridge in 2005: 104.44 (btw, webb was at 145.00)

Why did evridge even play last year?

Meier in 2006:  99.4
So Meier is worse as a RS-Sr. than AE was as a RS-FR.

October 02, 2006, 05:57:21 PM
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AE in 2006: 0.00

Seeing as how D-M's efficiency has dropped by 17%, AE's efficiency would be 83.

But hey! His mom was really nice and he was great in the classroom! Thus....GREAT QB!

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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 02, 2006, 06:01:14 PM
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AE in 2006: 0.00

Is 0.00 the legitimate shot that Prince gave AE at becoming the starter?

Meier as a RS-Sr. is worse than AE as a RS-Fr. 


October 02, 2006, 06:06:47 PM
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AE in 2006: 0.00

Seeing as how D-M's efficiency has dropped by 17%, AE's efficiency would be 83.

But hey! His mom was really nice and he was great in the classroom! Thus....GREAT QB!


Just because DM sucks doesn't mean that AE's effeciency would have dropped.  I never said AE was a great QB, only that he was better than DM.  But hey, Dylan plays the bongos and has a really, really super outlook on life, thus...GREAT QB!    :jerkoff:

October 02, 2006, 06:29:23 PM
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Prince won't have near the honeymoon Wooly received.

The over/under for Prince's honeymoon is 2 more games without an offensive touchdown.

Wooly's honeymoon last until several weeks past the ku game last spring.
under w/out an O td next week bring BV back in asap

October 02, 2006, 06:30:29 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped  why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 02, 2006, 06:38:26 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped  why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work.  DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience.  I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least.  AE can atleast throw the ball  20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt. 

October 02, 2006, 06:42:59 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped  why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work.  DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience.  I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least.  AE can atleast throw the ball  20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt. 

Of course it's the best assumption. Meier thrived more under one system, was more efficient...why would Evridge be the more dominant QB in another system?
You hit the nail on the head, we are arguing who sucks less. Thus, both QBs are pretty much worthless imo.

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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 02, 2006, 06:47:29 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped  why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work.  DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience.  I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least.  AE can atleast throw the ball  20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt. 

Of course it's the best assumption. Meier thrived more under one system, was more efficient...why would Evridge be the more dominant QB in another system?
You hit the nail on the head, we are arguing who sucks less. Thus, both QBs are pretty much worthless imo.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI9vxBrb9CQ

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...feeling oh so silky smooth....just let it shine through....

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October 02, 2006, 06:48:50 PM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 02, 2006, 06:53:34 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped  why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work.  DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience.  I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least.  AE can atleast throw the ball  20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt. 

Well,  here is some research I did prior to this season on Meier vs. AE

I'm not really in the mood to debate this that in depth and do more research but here is the basis for the arguments I laid out before the season:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=2499.0

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Hopefully Meier is back and healthy.  If Freeman plays this year, I just might stop going to KSU football for awhile so I can save my sanity.
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October 02, 2006, 07:02:47 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work. DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience. I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least. AE can atleast throw the ball 20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt.

Well, here is some research I did prior to this season on Meier vs. AE

I'm not really in the mood to debate this that in depth and do more research but here is the basis for the arguments I laid out before the season:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=2499.0

by the way:

Shout out to myself for being soooo smart:

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Hopefully Meier is back and healthy. If Freeman plays this year, I just might stop going to KSU football for awhile so I can save my sanity.

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't AE's "good game" be the 357yds he put up against A&M?

October 02, 2006, 07:14:18 PM
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No, but the best assumption is that it would have dropped. If Dylan's dropped why would the QB who couldn't perform better under the previous system (much worse efficieny) not drop as well?



It's not the best assumption, it's just the assumption that makes your argument work. DM, with more experience, is worse than AE with less experience. I can't believe we're arguing over who sucks the least. AE can atleast throw the ball 20 yards downfield without timing the throw like a punt.

Well, here is some research I did prior to this season on Meier vs. AE

I'm not really in the mood to debate this that in depth and do more research but here is the basis for the arguments I laid out before the season:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=2499.0

by the way:

Shout out to myself for being soooo smart:

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Hopefully Meier is back and healthy. If Freeman plays this year, I just might stop going to KSU football for awhile so I can save my sanity.

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't AE's "good game" be the 357yds he put up against A&M?

Well I guess, but we didn't even win the game.  That was a corollary to a different argument....  As I said, these are just some numbers I put together, use them as you please.

I am just more and more depressed with how right I was about Freeman.
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October 02, 2006, 08:00:17 PM
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The thing that will get Prince into a $hitstorm is continually telling everybody how brilliant and smart he is and then not doing $hit on the field.

He's already wearing thin with some people of power in Manhattan.


October 02, 2006, 10:08:53 PM
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Parish bought himself two, maybe three years automatically with the LOI signature of Freeman.  He's now in a position to play the "inexperience" and "potential" card with Freeman now firmly at the helm.  The same stunt Wooldridge pulled, except The Wool was a loveable loser liked by most of the low expectations K-State crowd that couldn't get enough of his aww shucks country bumkin attitude.  I don't see that playing out with a guy as arrogant as Coach P.

I shutter to think about Parish going into next season, if the dude hadn't miraculously landed an Elite 11 recruit in his backyard at the QB position last year.

The scary thing is now it's becoming pretty apparent, his staff is marginal recruiters at best and that elite level talent is going to far more of the exception than the norm.

P.S.  Speaking of coaching smart and not scared.  People shouldn't estimate the brilliance of his move to throw Meier under the bus and go youth movement on us with the season slipping away, especially considering all the talk by Snyder pre-season that this program was left in good shape and that we've got the talent to compete for the North.  Now Parish can lower the expectations and save his ass by saying it's going to take time to adjust to a young Qb and a new system.




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October 02, 2006, 10:52:11 PM
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so much doom and gloom around here.  but a lot of you predicted all of this, not that that was really bold or daring. 

for whatever goofy reason i still have some optimism left, but it will definitely be gone after a loss this weekend.  i wish i could still say i want to wait till seasons end to give a full review but thats getting tougher by the day.  please surprise me this week cats!   :ksu:

October 03, 2006, 07:56:26 AM
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Prince is a lot younger, and at times it sounds like he has a collection of soundbites of coaching cliches and has formulated them into his philosophy.

That's so true.  I think if asked what type of offense he would like to run, he would say, "one with continuity".