kansas vs darwin

[Rick Daris]

on pbs right now. 

[jmlynch1]

thanks for the heads up

[steve dave]

^ Kansan

[sys]

love the intl. games.  we will crush those aussie bastards.

[Rick Daris]

   irigonegaray

[mjrod]

Kansas is God's Country and K-State is God's Chosen University.

Darwin was just a man with many faults.  God is perfect.

[Saulbadguy]

  irigonegaray

My friends mom is dating him.  Also, he is defending my neighbor from charges of enslavery or something.

[jmlynch1]

Anyone else think Morris came off batcrap crazy? Probably because she is.

Garden of Evil
A Kansas school board member lurks in the slime.
By C.J. Janovy

Published: Thursday, October 21, 2004

I haven't read Connie Morris' book, From the Darkness: One Woman's Rise to Nobility. It's out of print, but the online book-jacket synopsis suggests that Morris is a woman of extreme grace.

"From sexual abuse and violence at the age of 12, to a miraculous conversion and recovery, Connie Morris' remarkable story will inspire and transform you," it reads. There are also words of praise from Kansas' U.S. Rep. Jerry Moran, who says Morris' book is "a compelling story of what faith in Jesus Christ can do to change a person's life for the better."

Morris is a member of the Kansas State Board of Education, representing the western half of Kansas. But despite the title of her memoir, she hasn't quite grasped the concept of nobility.

Morris was elected two years ago, having run on a single issue: that taxpayers shouldn't educate the children of illegal immigrants.

At the time, Ranjit Arab was a University of Kansas Journalism School graduate working in Lawrence. Part of his job involved reading out-of-state newspapers, and when he went back to film school he made a class project about the intensifying controversy over educating the kids of illegals. Called El Jardin (The Garden), the 26-minute documentary examines the true meaning of "no child left behind."

After long shots of a Kansas highway headed west, viewers arrive in Garden City, where nonwhites slightly outnumber whites in a town of 32,000. There, immigrant workers put in long days at nasty meatpacking jobs. They also host colorful festivals and cook excellent food. And they send their kids to school. The teachers don't ask students whether their parents are legal. They don't care. The film's most moving moment might be when one white teacher, radiant in her platinum bouffant, says, "I love diversity. I love the challenges it brings into our society and to our schools. It makes me a richer person."

Not all Kansans feel that way, though, and Arab knew his film wouldn't be finished without comments from Morris. In March 2003, he began e-mailing her, requesting an interview. Morris said she didn't have time. "If you would still like my input," she wrote back, "please email 2-3 questions and I will respond. I applaud your efforts."

Arab tried to get a few minutes of face time with Morris at a public meeting in Topeka that May. The resulting footage shows Morris arriving five minutes before the meeting. She smiles when she sees a camera and a microphone. But when Arab asks his question, her expression turns to faux bewilderment and she hurries past. During a break in the meeting, she hides in the bathroom.

Arab's film won a couple of awards at the KAN Film Festival in June. And because the subject was of general interest, The Hutchinson News recapped the controversy on October 3.

That was when Morris told Harris News Service reporter Sarah Kessinger that she'd reported Arab to the FBI, "to ward off any possible stalking or terroristic behavior."

"If there's any further trouble, at least we have documented the beginning of the trouble," Morris tells me.

In the movie, watching Arab approach Morris is a little like watching Dave Helling's skinny nephew approach a third-rate Kay Barnes. Nonetheless, Morris claims, "I can assure you that the scene in the board room was aggressive and violent, nearly violent. It frightened me."

But was he really acting like a terrorist?

"Yes. And he crossed the rules of proper journalistic etiquette. And if he isn't going to learn from his classes how to behave, he does need to learn somewhere the proper way to get a story."

Um, Arab spent months politely asking for an interview.

"There may be times I will choose to give an interview, and I have when I am treated with respect and I feel like the report is going to be fair and honest," Morris says. "But I didn't receive that treatment from this young man from the very beginning."

This is clearly a load of rich Kansas manure. And maybe Morris knows it, because she starts giggling.

"I try not to take things too seriously," she explains when I ask why she's laughing. "I think this whole thing is funny, that it's a story. I think it's silliness."

Ranjit Arab isn't laughing.

To find out whether his own name is on some terrorist list at the FBI, Arab has had to file a Freedom of Information request.

"I doubt she would have cited 'terroristic behavior' if it had been a white filmmaker, simply because I asked a public official a question in a public forum," says Arab (his parents, both citizens, came to the U.S. from India in the '60s). "But she can just throw it out there, and it was printed in the newspaper. There it is: my name in the same sentence with 'terroristic behavior' and 'FBI.'"

Morris has used this technique before. She did it in the summer of 2002, when she accused Garden City Mayor Tim Cruz of being an illegal immigrant. "I find it appalling that a person can break the law and enter the country illegally and end up as mayor," she said.

Cruz is a third-generation Garden Citian. A manager at Sears, he spent eight years on the city council and was twice elected mayor. He's served with the United Way. A couple of years ago, he was inducted into the local high school's hall of fame.

During her campaign for the state school board, though, Morris used Cruz as fodder for stirring up anti-immigration sentiment.

"She was sending e-mails out to hate groups, talking about me being an illegal alien," Cruz tells me. "The e-mails started circulating in our local newspaper and TV stations. Finally, one of the newspapers got hold of her and somehow convinced her, or she convinced herself, that I wasn't an illegal. She called and asked if she owed me an apology. I told her that was up to her. Finally she did, but that was after weeks and weeks of talking bad about my name."

Morris is among the majority of Kansas Board of Education members who are expected to put the anti-evolution debate back on the table in the months ahead. They've also been talking about scrapping world history lessons, preferring that the focus be kept on Kansas and the United States.

[PCR]

[jthutch]

Frank Evolution I didn't come from any ooze. 

[jthutch]

o.k. maybe some kind of ooze but not the kind they talk about.

[PCR]

It took 2 Billion years for us to come from Ooze. 

[sys]

My friends mom is dating him.  Also, he is defending my neighbor from charges of enslavery or something.

self or perkins?

[Perry]

That is all

[Saulbadguy]

My friends mom is dating him.  Also, he is defending my neighbor from charges of enslavery or something.

self or perkins?

Restaurant owner, allegedly forced illegal immigrants to work there and live in his apt, paying less than minimum wage. Also beat them.  Apparently - I like the food though, and he's a nice guy. 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

It took 2 Billion years for us to come from Ooze. 

I just met a dude that said he evolved from ooze 1 billion years ago.  So I guess that just proves we are still evolving from ooze.
 

[Oklahoma_Cat]

God is perfect imaginary.

fyp, bra

[da govna]

God is perfect imaginary.

fyp, bra

for your 3000th s#it post, I give you this...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brah

[McGrowlTowelZac]

God is perfect imaginary.

fyp, bra

so is evolution.  so i guess we're both at square 1

[Oklahoma_Cat]

God is perfect imaginary.

fyp, bra

so is evolution.  so i guess we're both at square 1

[McGrowlTowelZac]

God is perfect imaginary.

fyp, bra

so is evolution.  so i guess we're both at square 1

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

[steve dave]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

[Saulbadguy]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

[steve dave]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

I heard George Smoot talk at a conference about the big bang.  It's impossible to dispute scientifically. 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Its fine, we don't have to get into a thing.  But there some evidence of micro-evolution, not so much for macro-evolution.  and as far as having any clue on how life began, you and I could create a guess and it would be on par with the other ideas or theories out there.

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

I love how everything we know about explosions or violent collisions show an end result of destruction, yet we're gonna be alike "yea, but this one explosion or collision actually created life." forgive me if say  

[steve dave]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Its fine, we don't have to get into a thing.  But there some evidence of micro-evolution, not so much for macro-evolution.  and as far as having any clue on how life began, you and I could create a guess and it would be on par with the other ideas or theories out there.

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

I love how everything we know about explosions or violent collisions show an end result of destruction, yet we're gonna be alike "yea, but this one explosion or collision actually created life." forgive me if say  

Well, all I can say is that you are blatantly wrong on both counts. 

[Saulbadguy]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Its fine, we don't have to get into a thing.  But there some evidence of micro-evolution, not so much for macro-evolution.  and as far as having any clue on how life began, you and I could create a guess and it would be on par with the other ideas or theories out there.

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

I love how everything we know about explosions or violent collisions show an end result of destruction, yet we're gonna be alike "yea, but this one explosion or collision actually created life." forgive me if say  

No, one explosion did not create life - it created the universe. 

But hey, we've proven the earth is billions of years old, but I guess that must all be BS.   

 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Its fine, we don't have to get into a thing.  But there some evidence of micro-evolution, not so much for macro-evolution.  and as far as having any clue on how life began, you and I could create a guess and it would be on par with the other ideas or theories out there.

evolution: the belief that you came from an ooze or explosion, or whatever, yet there is no scientific evidence to support it.  again, whats the difference?

Yeah, so, I'm religious or whatever but this isn't true.  There is an unbelievable amount of evidence for evolution.  It's really not even arguable.  I don't want to get into "a thing" about it but it's fact. 

Big bang theory is supported by science - universe is constantly expanding, and background radiation w/ temperature of 2 degrees centigrade.

I love how everything we know about explosions or violent collisions show an end result of destruction, yet we're gonna be alike "yea, but this one explosion or collision actually created life." forgive me if say  

Well, all I can say is that you are blatantly wrong on both counts. 

If its so factual, why is it called the evolution theory?  They can't prove it, not sure what you've read or seen, but they can't.  Its not there.  I heard known evolutionists say they have an idea or theory on how life started, but have the evidence to prove it.

I wonder if I create universes every 4th of July?

[steve dave]

I don't want to get into "a thing"

you're on your own rube

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I don't want to get into "a thing"

you're on your own rube

this is a topic its hard not to get into "a thing" on.  this isn't going to go anywhere anyway.