meek!

[fatty fat fat]

http://cjonline.com/stories/012209/kan_380163852.shtml

 

[ednksu]

Wefald said. "You know what I'm saying? A little more irksome. I'm saying, 'I think this is what's best for K-State,' and I think Tim was more concerned about his authority."

nice dig.

glad to see we will contiune to get screwed by the big12 front office.

[fatty fat fat]

at least this settles who hired ron prince.

[ednksu]

I really dont like TW but I think this was just two guys who got into an anatomy measuring contest which is never good for a university.  Interesting to see that (me reading between the lines) Prince play TW and JW against each other to get his raise and contract extension.  I think he knew he wasnt recruiting well back then and wanted to larger buy out to fatten his wallet and/or provide more job security.

[fatty fat fat]

I really dont like TW but I think this was just two guys who got into an anatomy measuring contest which is never good for a university.  Interesting to see that (me reading between the lines) Prince play TW and JW against each other to get his raise and contract extension.  I think he knew he wasnt recruiting well back then and wanted to larger buy out to fatten his wallet and/or provide more job security.

yeah. kind of makes you ill, doesn't it?

[PCR]

Dammit why couldn't Wefald have been on that helicopter with Bush yesterday.   

Let's get this straight, next university president:  your job is to make sure there's books in the library, the faculty gets paid  a fair wage and kids are getting a good enough education to get a decent job. 

[steve dave]

Tim gets the last laugh.  Wefald goes out on bottom.  Fantastic.

[catzacker]

kind of funny that the old, senile lolly pop kid thinks that only what he does is in the best interest of KSU. 

[kougar24]

Our University deserves all the crap it's in right now. All of it. Pathetic, Wefald.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sadly the Weeper didn't go out the door with Weiser.   

I don't blame Weiser for being pissed, but Timmy had plenty of missteps, and IMO was just to small time.  People I know who deal with KSU athletics say it's like night and day in terms of vision between Weiser and Krause . . . Timmy was a hand wringer, a chicken, had no real passion for KSU, and was more concerned about himself . . . IMO.   Weiser was right about Prince, but lets not forget that the paranoia about the perception of Prince's contract in the coaching community by Weeper/Krause was partially driven by Timmy's complete mishandling of the Huggins situation. 

[pissclams]

this news is almost older than wefald himself.  the guy is going to end up leaving his career like an over the hill boxer, it's too bad.

[steve dave]

Weiser was right about Prince

We should start a rumor that Weiser was a racist to make ourselves feel better.  Like, "Hey, he didn't want Prince but it had nothing to do with him as a football coach...(whisper) racist"

[sonofdaxjones]

Weiser was right about Prince

We should start a rumor that Weiser was a racist to make ourselves feel better.  Like, "Hey, he didn't want Prince but it had nothing to do with him as a football coach...(whisper) racist"

Excellent idea.

You know if Weeper was a smart man, and frankly, I am firmly now in the camp of the guy being pretty much an idiot, I was just in the camp of the guy just being a goofy academic . . . he would've just stood back and admired his "I hired Bill Snyder" trophy he had made for himself, and rode that "legacy" and that legacy alone into the sunset in regards to his athletic director exploits.  Instead, he thought he was a "sports guy" and stuck his nose into everything.

Would one of you guys run a W-L total for KSU hoops under the Weeper.

[Chingon]

Weiser was right about Prince

We should start a rumor that Weiser was a racist to make ourselves feel better.  Like, "Hey, he didn't want Prince but it had nothing to do with him as a football coach...(whisper) racist"

Excellent idea.

You know if Weeper was a smart man, and frankly, I am firmly now in the camp of the guy being pretty much an idiot, I was just in the camp of the guy just being a goofy academic . . . he would've just stood back and admired his "I hired Bill Snyder" trophy he had made for himself, and rode that "legacy" and that legacy alone into the sunset in regards to his athletic director exploits.  Instead, he thought he was a "sports guy" and stuck his nose into everything.

Would one of you guys run a W-L total for KSU hoops under the Weeper.

As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%.  Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.

[Legore]

I can't believe Krause is still using the "he just ran out of time" line about Prince.  Not only is it BS it also makes him look like a gutless pussy who caved into the fans rather then doing what he felt was right.  Just step up and say Prince sucked and was running the program into the ground.  Look at what we have coming back in football this year and try to argue that Prince just ran out of time.  I mean not only do the players suck but he would have had to find a new DC and who in their right mind would have taken that job?   

[BigCat]

As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%.  Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.

Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. 

Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

I can't believe Krause is still using the "he just ran out of time" line about Prince.  Not only is it BS it also makes him look like a gutless pussy who caved into the fans rather then doing what he felt was right.  Just step up and say Prince sucked and was running the program into the ground.  Look at what we have coming back in football this year and try to argue that Prince just ran out of time.  I mean not only do the players suck but he would have had to find a new DC and who in their right mind would have taken that job?   

Great post.  I'd just add the fact that Prince's recruits for next year were the suck (again) also.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, you heard AD's all across America telling everybody the real reason why somebody was let go.   

[michigancat]

http://cjonline.com/stories/012209/kan_380163852.shtml

 

What a bunch of f*ckup retards.  (wefald especially)

[Chingon]

As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%.  Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.

Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. 

Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.

Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.

I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).

[sonofdaxjones]

The only thing funnier than the Weeper . . . is the reality that the powertards are likely feeling all vilified about Weiser.   

 

[sonofdaxjones]

On a related note.

The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.

Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.

[BeaumontCat1%]

What a bunch of f*ckup retards.  (wefald especially)

qft X 1000.  Even worse is that KSU fans will continue to put with this kind of crap through eternity.

[SUPERKSUFAN]

On a related note.

The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.

Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.

[BigCat]

As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%.  Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.

Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. 

Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.

Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.

I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).

Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).

I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.

I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?

Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.

Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.

[sonofdaxjones]

On a related note.

The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.

Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.

Why do you say that??  Just asking, I don't know one way or the other.

Plus, there's apparently an undisclosed mysprescandidate.

[Pete]

On a related note.

The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.

Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.

Why do you say that??  Just asking, I don't know one way or the other.

Plus, there's apparently an undisclosed mysprescandidate.

A good buddy of mine's dad is the #2 man at Wisconsin-Green Bay and was invited to interview, but turned down the offer.  He going to take an early retirement.  I was quite disappointed.

[sonofdaxjones]

I just want to add a hearty welcome to DocStalksmith who I know is reading every word on this thread, and all threads on ksufans.com.

Welcome.   

[Chingon]

As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%.  Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.

Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. 

Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.

Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.

I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).

Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).

I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.

I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?

Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.

Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.

Guess what?  KSU is a nobody then.  If someone wants to run that smack on me for being a K-State fan let them.  I don't give a crap what other people think. 

If you want KSU to become an elite (your definition) sports institution, system wide and fundamental changes must be made to the entire NCAA guidelines.

I don't like it when KSU is mediocre in sports for stretches, but I challenge you to name schools similar in size, affluence, and location to KSU that you would consider "elite".

[fatty fat fat]

Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.

that's wasn't good enough for you? going 49-15 vs big 12 opponents wasn't enough?