Anyone listen to KK this afternoon?

[omahawildcat]

If so, are you pissed at him for saying what he did?

[RonLongshaft]

 

didn't know people listen to that douche, let alone take it serious what he says

[yoman]

why don't you tell us what we're suposed to be pissed about? what exactly did he say?

[omahawildcat]

He said This Frank Martin team appears to be the worst coached team he's ever seen at Kstate. Including Wooldridge teams.

He also stated that the comments that Martin had about Doc Sadler, it appeared as though he was basically stating that Sadler was a better coach then himself.

[sys]

sadler is the best x&os coach in the big 12.  everyone knows that.

[fatty fat fat]

sadler is the best x&os coach in the big 12.  everyone knows that.

except when he loses to maryland baltimore county at home.

 

[RonLongshaft]

He said This Frank Martin team appears to be the worst coached team he's ever seen at Kstate. Including Wooldridge teams.

He also stated that the comments that Martin had about Doc Sadler, it appeared as though he was basically stating that Sadler was a better coach then himself.

as much as i wouldn't wanna believe it, he has a strong argument here.

[sys]

as much as i wouldn't wanna believe it, he has a strong argument here.

no he doesn't.


don't take bball thoughts from people named fitz or keitz.  95% chance they're wrong.

[catzacker]

no one should get mad at what KK says, and that includes Frank.  Unfortunately, Frank's temper/personality is coupled with entirely too thin skin.  So I'm sure we'll get to hear Frank spout off about "the media" being unfair or something, meanwhile his team looks like crap. 

[phagallenblowsballs]

He said This Frank Martin team appears to be the worst coached team he's ever seen at Kstate. Including Wooldridge teams.

He also stated that the comments that Martin had about Doc Sadler, it appeared as though he was basically stating that Sadler was a better coach then himself.

KK was 100% correct!  Frank Martin is the worst gameday coach in the big 12, and possibly the nation.  This guy doesnt havent a frickin clue.  And it showed last year (despite having unbelievable talent to help disguise it) when the team underachieved.

The clock is already ticking for Martin....bringing in talent is ONE thing, doing NOTHING with that talent is another.

Now powertards dont confuse my message, I never said the guido couldnt recruit, but Frank is the worst in the conf. as far as actual coaching....and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

Look, we rolled the dice on ANOTHER inexperienced minority head coach....the first one was an abortion...two in a row???

[sys]

and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

lol.

[Kat Kid]

well known fact that Frank hates KK could be about that as much as anything.

[phagallenblowsballs]

and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

lol.

Oh boy another Pat Knight apologists....let me guess your line of thinking here..."Well his dad was great which means he will be good to!"

lol

only a simpleton thinks that way, a true munson

[fatty fat fat]

KK was 100% correct!  Frank Martin is the worst gameday coach in the big 12, and possibly the nation.  This guy doesnt havent a frickin clue.  And it showed last year (despite having unbelievable talent to help disguise it) when the team underachieved.

The clock is already ticking for Martin....bringing in talent is ONE thing, doing NOTHING with that talent is another.

Now powertards dont confuse my message, I never said the guido couldnt recruit, but Frank is the worst in the conf. as far as actual coaching....and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

Look, we rolled the dice on ANOTHER inexperienced minority head coach....the first one was an abortion...two in a row???

these posts are just infuriating. 

wtf is wrong with you people? we lost 4 starters from a fringe NCAA team. We lost 4 starters from the 06-07 team (who only made the NIT)

we haven't had a consistent roster for three years now.

[catzacker]

well known fact that Frank hates KK could be about that as much as anything.

frank's kind of a pussy for being a tough guy, imo.*


*I would never say this to his face

[omahawildcat]

KK was 100% correct!  Frank Martin is the worst gameday coach in the big 12, and possibly the nation.  This guy doesnt havent a frickin clue.  And it showed last year (despite having unbelievable talent to help disguise it) when the team underachieved.

The clock is already ticking for Martin....bringing in talent is ONE thing, doing NOTHING with that talent is another.

Now powertards dont confuse my message, I never said the guido couldnt recruit, but Frank is the worst in the conf. as far as actual coaching....and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

Look, we rolled the dice on ANOTHER inexperienced minority head coach....the first one was an abortion...two in a row???

these posts are just infuriating. 

wtf is wrong with you people? we lost 4 starters from a fringe NCAA team. We lost 4 starters from the 06-07 team (who only made the NIT)

we haven't had a consistent roster for three years now.

 

[phagallenblowsballs]

KK was 100% correct!  Frank Martin is the worst gameday coach in the big 12, and possibly the nation.  This guy doesnt havent a frickin clue.  And it showed last year (despite having unbelievable talent to help disguise it) when the team underachieved.

The clock is already ticking for Martin....bringing in talent is ONE thing, doing NOTHING with that talent is another.

Now powertards dont confuse my message, I never said the guido couldnt recruit, but Frank is the worst in the conf. as far as actual coaching....and thats sad cause Pat Knight is awful too.

Look, we rolled the dice on ANOTHER inexperienced minority head coach....the first one was an abortion...two in a row???

these posts are just infuriating. 

wtf is wrong with you people? we lost 4 starters from a fringe NCAA team. We lost 4 starters from the 06-07 team (who only made the NIT)

we haven't had a consistent roster for three years now.

Alright, what have you seen from f***facefrank that would make you think he is such a "great coach"?  His offensive philosphy is AWFUL.  No set plays, nothing.  Even on inbounds plays nothing even creative beyond a high school coaching level.  Nothing.

The substitutions patterns are even more high school esque.

Instead of yelling and cussing at the players, heres an idea, how about f'n coaching them.  Telling them you are the most selfish m*****f**** I have ever seen isnt coaching.

Kstate needs to demand every f'n dollar back from Frank.  I dont give a sh*t if he can recruit or not....cause the talent will be wasted when it gets here....or riding the pine in favor on CMerr.

Im sick of hiring inexperience hacks for our head coaching positions.
Thank god Bill is back!

[michigancat]

I'd rather have wasted talent than no talent.  Under, like, any circumstances.

It's absolutely 100% about talent.  Check out the career record of the coach of the #1 team in the country if you don't believe me.

[fatty fat fat]

Alright, what have you seen from f***facefrank that would make you think he is such a "great coach"?  His offensive philosphy is AWFUL.  No set plays, nothing.  Even on inbounds plays nothing even creative beyond a high school coaching level.  Nothing.

The substitutions patterns are even more high school esque.

Instead of yelling and cussing at the players, heres an idea, how about f'n coaching them.  Telling them you are the most selfish m*****f**** I have ever seen isnt coaching.

every team w/bad players looks like this. it's the same everywhere.


btw, how about bill's job in 2005 and 2004?

[sonofdaxjones]

It's settled, K-State has bad players.

So are we looking at 0-16, or more like 4-12 or 6-10??

[michigancat]

It's settle, K-State has bad players.

So are we looking at 0-16, or more like 4-12 or 6-10??

6-10

[FHSU92]

we haven't had a consistent roster for three years now.

or coach.  dk=3 coaches/4 yrs.

talent? js + ds r all the talent we hav.  js is a rs & ds just finished yr 1.

[sys]

i know pk doesn't suck at "game" (weird made up category of coaching that people that never played bball think is important) coaching because i've seen several pk coached tech games and seen that they don't play unreasonably poorly.


also because i know that bball is a ridiculously simple game, and any non-retarded individual that has been around the game for more than a year or two on a professional basis understands about all there is to understand about it.  and if they've been hired by a big 6 university to coach that university's mens bball team, they are almost sure to also be fairly good at communicating bball information to players.




martin calls a ton of set plays. btw.  wish he'd call less, to be honest.

[michigancat]

also because i know that bball is a ridiculously simple game, and any non-retarded individual that has been around the game for more than a year or two on a professional basis understands about all there is to understand about it.  and if they've been hired by a big 6 university to coach that university's mens bball team, they are almost sure to also be fairly good at communicating bball information to players.

Just serving as an assistant makes you more than qualified from an "x's and o's"/"gameplanning" standpoint.

martin calls a ton of set plays. btw.  wish he'd call less, to be honest.

I know.  this is prob. the dumbest anti-martin talking point, edging out "chemistry".

[sonofdaxjones]

So I just want to get this straight:

All of K-State's players absolutely suck.  Martin calls to many plays.  Team Chemistry is not important on any level.  Player Rotation doesn't matter at all.   Blame all the problems the team is having on Martin missing on a couple of recruits. 

What have I missed??

[PowerKAT]

Just wondering, do we run an offense?  or does it just consist of running down the court 18mph and handing the ball to the other team

[phagallenblowsballs]

Just wondering, do we run an offense?  or does it just consist of running down the court 18mph and handing the ball to the other team

Hey now, that is one of "franks set plays".

Awesome frank!

[Bullfn33]

I'd rather have wasted talent than no talent.  Under, like, any circumstances.

QFMFT. Although his point about it being wasted is BS. There is no evidence that he will waste talent, the only evidence so far is that he has helped put two players into the NBA.

As far as KK. Has he ever come out and said this stuff before? Because, if not, then he's kind of a dumbass to say he's a sh1tty coach etc. after one poorly coached game. I agree Martin is making mistakes in his coaching but I'm willing to give him a lot of time to prove himself(4 more years min.) for two reasons: 1)he's bringing in talent 2)he's learning on the job

[steve dave]

I would like to enroll 95% of our fan base in a class called Talking About Basketball Like You Aren't A F^cking Retard 101. 

[sonofdaxjones]

I would like to enroll 95% of our fan base in a class called Talking About Basketball Like You Aren't A F^cking Retard 101. 

Yeah, with your Knight/Wooden like mind on display here.