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January 17, 2009, 07:04:39 PM
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January 17, 2009, 07:15:04 PM
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BOO!

Frank's the man and will get us over this little hiccup. 

SLTH.

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January 17, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
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BOO!

Frank's the man and will get us over this little hiccup. 

SLTH.

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January 17, 2009, 07:22:44 PM
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January 17, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
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January 17, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
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Welcome back, Bill.

January 17, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

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January 17, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
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Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

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More young talent to underdevelop and/or put in position to fail. 

Welcome back, Bill.

January 17, 2009, 08:31:44 PM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:
Biggest plus

January 17, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:
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Uh.....He was our best player today
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January 17, 2009, 08:57:10 PM
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January 18, 2009, 11:01:25 AM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:
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Uh.....He was our best player today

Really?
I think you might want to view his body of work again. 
He's constantly turning the ball over.  It's just not that he's a poor passer, but he's also got a knack of putting himself in bad positions with the ball.  Our offense finds itself breaking down trying to bail him out because he's unable to get rid of the ball before the double team arrives, or worse, he's pinched himself against the baseline or sideline.  Now I have to bag on Frank: his offense uses DK near the side key to distribute the ball, but teams slack off DK because he's not a consistant shooter from that spot and wait for the sloppy pass.  At best, he should be used nearer the basket where his only choices are to turn and shoot or pass back outside to the guards.

On defense, I used to think that he was being unfairly singled out on fouls.  But when you watch him, you see that he's sloppy with his body.  He's either bringing his arms down when he's got the advantage or pushing his lower body into the opponent.  His defense against the dribble penetrator is sloppy at best and often causes the other interior defenders to help.  If you have lost your man, you still have responsibilties and DK seems to give up once beaten.  He should be doing one of the following: get on the player that your help man was covering, get back on your man, or get in position for a rebound.  In a zone, you are responsible for a section of the court.  DK is usually responsible for the wing, but puts himself in bad position by cheating the paint when the ball is on the far wing. 

Maybe the best and shortest way to say this is that he does not play under control, and with his athleticism, he needs to beat his opponent with his mind as much as his body.  Jamslam is just as slow mentally, but has the ability to negate this liability with his physical skills.  Plus, Jamar is a freshman, and could be using the reps this year to let the game slow down in his mind.   

January 18, 2009, 12:38:44 PM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

January 18, 2009, 01:39:06 PM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:
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Uh.....He was our best player today

Really?
I think you might want to view his body of work again. 
He's constantly turning the ball over.  It's just not that he's a poor passer, but he's also got a knack of putting himself in bad positions with the ball.  Our offense finds itself breaking down trying to bail him out because he's unable to get rid of the ball before the double team arrives, or worse, he's pinched himself against the baseline or sideline.  Now I have to bag on Frank: his offense uses DK near the side key to distribute the ball, but teams slack off DK because he's not a consistant shooter from that spot and wait for the sloppy pass.  At best, he should be used nearer the basket where his only choices are to turn and shoot or pass back outside to the guards.

On defense, I used to think that he was being unfairly singled out on fouls.  But when you watch him, you see that he's sloppy with his body.  He's either bringing his arms down when he's got the advantage or pushing his lower body into the opponent.  His defense against the dribble penetrator is sloppy at best and often causes the other interior defenders to help.  If you have lost your man, you still have responsibilties and DK seems to give up once beaten.  He should be doing one of the following: get on the player that your help man was covering, get back on your man, or get in position for a rebound.  In a zone, you are responsible for a section of the court.  DK is usually responsible for the wing, but puts himself in bad position by cheating the paint when the ball is on the far wing. 

Maybe the best and shortest way to say this is that he does not play under control, and with his athleticism, he needs to beat his opponent with his mind as much as his body.  Jamslam is just as slow mentally, but has the ability to negate this liability with his physical skills.  Plus, Jamar is a freshman, and could be using the reps this year to let the game slow down in his mind.   

That's not what I said
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January 18, 2009, 02:44:35 PM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

so, what are you thinking on the odds?  martin and the staff have a pretty good record with recruits rising in the the rankings.  oth, we're talking 2010s here, not 2011s.  these aren't unknowns.  and both guys played at least one season of mid to high level aau.  they weren't hidden under some rug.

i know bossi talks up spradling.  but he always overrates local recruits.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 18, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
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Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:

More young talent to underdevelop and/or put in position to fail. 



Exactly!

January 18, 2009, 02:56:30 PM
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We'll be fine. You had to expect a hiccup when you lose the best player in the country and another guy with lottery talent. Everybody will be back next year, minus Kent, plus we're adding Henriquez, Judge, McGruder, Russell and Peterson. The future of KSU is bright!

:ksu:
Biggest plus

Uh.....He was our best player today

Really?
I think you might want to view his body of work again. 
He's constantly turning the ball over.  It's just not that he's a poor passer, but he's also got a knack of putting himself in bad positions with the ball.  Our offense finds itself breaking down trying to bail him out because he's unable to get rid of the ball before the double team arrives, or worse, he's pinched himself against the baseline or sideline.  Now I have to bag on Frank: his offense uses DK near the side key to distribute the ball, but teams slack off DK because he's not a consistant shooter from that spot and wait for the sloppy pass.  At best, he should be used nearer the basket where his only choices are to turn and shoot or pass back outside to the guards.

On defense, I used to think that he was being unfairly singled out on fouls.  But when you watch him, you see that he's sloppy with his body.  He's either bringing his arms down when he's got the advantage or pushing his lower body into the opponent.  His defense against the dribble penetrator is sloppy at best and often causes the other interior defenders to help.  If you have lost your man, you still have responsibilties and DK seems to give up once beaten.  He should be doing one of the following: get on the player that your help man was covering, get back on your man, or get in position for a rebound.  In a zone, you are responsible for a section of the court.  DK is usually responsible for the wing, but puts himself in bad position by cheating the paint when the ball is on the far wing. 

Maybe the best and shortest way to say this is that he does not play under control, and with his athleticism, he needs to beat his opponent with his mind as much as his body.  Jamslam is just as slow mentally, but has the ability to negate this liability with his physical skills.  Plus, Jamar is a freshman, and could be using the reps this year to let the game slow down in his mind.   


You said it best... :cheers:

We get to 2-3 in conference and people will start laying off Frank. Let the man work, this is a team that has no offensive threat in the post and when your leading scorer is having the worst shooting stretch of his short career, we struggle.

In addition, other than Jamar, our big men have SLOW feet, which means we are constantly slow to help in the post. Things will get better next season. I still say we sneak into the NIT, go 8-8 in conference.

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January 18, 2009, 04:39:17 PM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

so, what are you thinking on the odds?  martin and the staff have a pretty good record with recruits rising in the the rankings.  oth, we're talking 2010s here, not 2011s.  these aren't unknowns.  and both guys played at least one season of mid to high level aau.  they weren't hidden under some rug.

i know bossi talks up spradling.  but he always overrates local recruits.

Just being irrationally optimistic...again.  :dunno:

January 18, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
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Just being irrationally optimistic...again.  :dunno:

damn.  i was hoping you had something.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 19, 2009, 12:06:10 PM
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Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Can I make it any clearer for you AD?

DALONTE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

January 19, 2009, 12:09:03 PM
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Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Can I make it any clearer for you AD?

DALONTE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really don't care what the AD does....just make sure the Dalonte stays on our coaching staff.
 

January 19, 2009, 12:09:54 PM
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Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Dalonte Hill.

Can I make it any clearer for you AD?

DALONTE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh no!  Are we going there now?  Could we please try to hire a real coach when the time comes.  Please!?!

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January 21, 2010, 08:37:54 AM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

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January 21, 2010, 08:40:21 AM
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Yeah Te400K is really reeling them in.   :rolleyes:

January 21, 2010, 09:08:51 AM
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Wow, I don't remember posting this AT ALL.
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January 21, 2010, 09:10:22 AM
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Wow, I don't remember posting this AT ALL.

Yeah, hate when the search function comes back to bite me in the ass.  Sometimes I'll see a situation arrising that causes me to remember some past ridiculous post of mine and I'm all  :ohno: hoping nobody remembers it and bumps it.  Terrifying. 
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January 21, 2010, 09:13:16 AM
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Wow, I don't remember posting this AT ALL.

Yeah, hate when the search function comes back to bite me in the ass.  Sometimes I'll see a situation arrising that causes me to remember some past ridiculous post of mine and I'm all  :ohno: hoping nobody remembers it and bumps it.  Terrifying. 

good example I stumbled across last night:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=16831.0

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Wow, I don't remember posting this AT ALL.

Yeah, hate when the search function comes back to bite me in the ass.  Sometimes I'll see a situation arrising that causes me to remember some past ridiculous post of mine and I'm all  :ohno: hoping nobody remembers it and bumps it.  Terrifying. 

good example I stumbled across last night:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=16831.0

THAT WAS A PARODY POST YOU SOB!  :scared:
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January 21, 2010, 09:18:05 AM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

bump for my rad thoughts.

would asprilla be considered top 100?
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January 21, 2010, 09:23:45 AM
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If any of Frank's 2010 commits crack the top 100, give him a raise and extension on signing day.

bump for my rad thoughts.

would asprilla be considered top 100?

Kinda what I was wondering.  I think yes.  Southwell is also borderline.  I also feel somewhat optimistic that our high ranking could lend to a decent late pick-up this season.  (relative to past years when I think it's impossible)
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