ku vs USF

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.

USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.

I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.

ku would have gotten murdered by Louisville. The only thing that kept us in the game was our defense. Your defense couldn't stop from giving the Toledo game away. We held the number one offense in the nation to 24 points. They would have hung 40 on you. You might have gotten a TD or a FG more than us but you would not have stopped their O like we did. Petrino was pissed off at how we stopped their offense. Take away the fake punt and the score is 17-6.

Our defense gave the Toledo game away? Our defense didn't let Toledo get a first down in the second half of the game. For the first two games of the year we were missing Talib, a pre-season All Big 12 player. Now that he's back, our defense is reliable. Anyone who bags on the ku defense isn't watching our games.

They wouldn't have hung 40 on us in Lawrence.

[waks]

I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.

USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.

I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.

ku would have gotten murdered by Louisville. The only thing that kept us in the game was our defense. Your defense couldn't stop from giving the Toledo game away. We held the number one offense in the nation to 24 points. They would have hung 40 on you. You might have gotten a TD or a FG more than us but you would not have stopped their O like we did. Petrino was pissed off at how we stopped their offense. Take away the fake punt and the score is 17-6.

Our defense gave the Toledo game away? Our defense didn't let Toledo get a first down in the second half of the game. For the first two games of the year we were missing Talib, a pre-season All Big 12 player. Now that he's back, our defense is reliable. Anyone who bags on the ku defense isn't watching our games.

They wouldn't have hung 40 on us in Lawrence.

My bad, I meant to say your offense. And I still think Louisville hangs 40 on you.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB.

What makes you think they "dumbed down" the O?

From a Louisville fan:

Your defense: I liked the way they played. However, understand that this was the sloppiest offensive game that UofL has played this year, by far. I think I saw more dropped passes, turnovers, and missed blocking assignments yesterday than I had in our first three games combined. Certainly, your defense didn't make it easy for us, but we were shooting ourselves in the foot as well. Know, too, that our offense is a different animal with Brohm under center than Cantwell.

[waks]

that also could be him trying to talk up his team and saying that it wasn't our good d it was their mistakes. you know, kind of what you have been doing recently about the Toledo loss?

[mjrod]

I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB.

What makes you think they "dumbed down" the O?

From a Louisville fan:

Your defense: I liked the way they played. However, understand that this was the sloppiest offensive game that UofL has played this year, by far. I think I saw more dropped passes, turnovers, and missed blocking assignments yesterday than I had in our first three games combined. Certainly, your defense didn't make it easy for us, but we were shooting ourselves in the foot as well. Know, too, that our offense is a different animal with Brohm under center than Cantwell.

Interesting.  It was KSU's job to mess up the Louisville offense.  Like ku's job to outplay toledo.

[WilliamTheWildcat]

Nothing in that post you quoted equates to your assessment of "dumbing down" the O.

The O wasn't dumbed down. UL threw the ball 26 times.  UL established a 17-0 lead and used the rushing attack (42 rushes) to melt the clock.

UL ran double reverses and nothing in their game plan seemed like they were trying to keep Cantwell from 'losing' the game.  That much would be obvious to a jar of pudding.  Or even you.

[KanSt43]

Goldy, you are the biggest F***ing moron on the planet...

ku blows...get over it..

[greasd up deaf guy]

That much would be obvious to a jar of pudding.  Or even you.

 

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Another Louisville fan quote:

In terms of opening the playbook I was merely reflecting on the plays in which Petrino would call for Brohm and how they vastly different from what we saw Saturday. Hell they were anything but normal and borderline on crazy, plently of UofL fans noticed this, but maybe Petrino was trying to reduce turnovers

I don't think they even seen half the playbook saturday

Sloppy game as the other post indicates, less plays, vastly different, with an intent to reduce turnovers.

Yep, sounds like they dumbed it down for a lesser quarterback.

[WilliamTheWildcat]

I'm going to have to presume you didn't see the game. (big surprise)  If UL "dumbed down" the O for a "lesser" Qb, they sure showed tremendous confidence in him on the first drive of the game by allowing him to pass on 5 of the the 11 plays in the drive.

Personally, I think uL got their comfortable lead, saw that Cantwell was taking some shots standing in the pocket, and figured the risk of losing another QB to injury, in an OOC game, on the road, far outweighed the reward of having 45 points on the board.

To me, that doesn't constitute dumbing down.  For that example, one only needs to look at Herm Edwards game plan last week vs the Donx.

[waks]

For as much as ku fans say that Mizzou is their no. 1 rival they sure post about us and obsess over us a whole lot more. Same with the Huskers.

[ksuno1stunner]

all i know is that if ku only lost to louisville 6-24, and we only had beaten a team like south florida 13-7, i'd be pretty concerned.

brohm would have helped them but cantwell was on the money most of the time.

[sonofdaxjones]

Louisville is the #1 offense in the Country and Bush has been hurt since halfway though the 1st game.  Louisville is the #1 scoring offense in the country.   Louisville just rolled Miami.

In the Miami game Hunter Cantwell first play was a 45 yard completion down to the Miami 3 yard line with 7:16 seconds left in the THIRD quarter.   He lead Louisville to two Touchdowns ... that put the game away.   Cantwell had pass completions of 29,39 and 49 yards agianst Miami's defense and was 3 for 4 and 1 TD. 

Yet the squawks are all spewing the crap about how "mad" they'd be if they got beat 24-7 by Louisville if Louisville started their "backup" QB and "backup" running back against them. 

It just goes to show you how blinded to reality your average squawk is when it comes to discussing KSU football.

Sad ...

[ksuno1stunner]

we are miami!

[mjrod]

Didn't ku lose to Toledo?

[Andy]

ku fans should thank God barmann started against usf and not meier, even if he was healthy.  this allowed the coaches to completely change their game plan and allow the offense to not lose the game like they did against toledo.  meier would have lost this game, as would the ku playcalling. 

fact is, ku went to the final play at home against a team that at best would probably be 9th in the big 12.  a team that had a freshman QB on the road.  ku is lucky usf didn't kick that fg in the 1st Q, cause they would have tied the game at the end of reg and who knows what would have happened in overtime...we've already seen one meltdown for ku in OT. 

also, ku is a 3 TD dog in lincoln, a season after beating nub by 30.  yes, the ku program certainly has momentum and is making great strides each season.  pray barmann starts again this week, or it will get UGLY.  it will be interesting to see if mangino panics and starts barmann the rest of the year in order to secure another 5 D-1A win season.