Frank Martin= Mike Ditka

[michigancat]

The team is about as well coached as you can get that collection of retards.

It's all about the players, and anyone that wasn't a moron knew we had garbage basketball players this year.

[Legore]

What more could Frank really do with this roster?  We have a roster full of guys who cannot shoot and no competent big men.  And do not forget that Frank Martin is the only reason why we still have a Basketball team worth bitching about.  If he hadn't kept the class together we'd be begging Justin Werner to start.  Begging him.  Frank. should kill you just for doubting him. 

So keeping the roster together two years ago makes it ok for his teams to play like crap?  What more could he do with this roster?  Well he could beat Oregon and Iowa for one his roster is better then those rosters.  Especially an Oregon team with 2 of it's 3 best players hurt.  Did people watch the game tonight?  The bad shot selection, the terrible turnovers, the defensive breakdowns, the stupid fouls.  How is that stuff not a reflection on coaching?  Especially when the same crap has happened every game we've played against legit competition.  

[sonofdaxjones]

When in doubt . . . put it all on the players.

But yeah, I was calling for nothing short of a Big 12 title and a long NCAA run prior to the season.  

[michigancat]

It's ALWAYS the players in basketball.  ALWAYS.

[doom]

So you think he says, "Hey Jake go jack up a three?"  and then curses his mother after he does it?  

[MOKSUAZ]

What more could Frank really do with this roster?  We have a roster full of guys who cannot shoot and no competent big men.  And do not forget that Frank Martin is the only reason why we still have a Basketball team worth bitching about.  If he hadn't kept the class together we'd be begging Justin Werner to start.  Begging him.  Frank. should kill you just for doubting him. 

So keeping the roster together two years ago makes it ok for his teams to play like crap?  What more could he do with this roster?  Well he could beat Oregon and Iowa for one his roster is better then those rosters.  Especially an Oregon team with 2 of it's 3 best players hurt.  Did people watch the game tonight?  The bad shot selection, the terrible turnovers, the defensive breakdowns, the stupid fouls.  How is that stuff not a reflection on coaching?  Especially when the same crap has happened every game we've played against legit competition.  

just b/c the roster is better doesn't mean the guys out on the court playing are better.  sometimes the guys playing have to be held accountable.  how many times have these guys jacked up 3's before the offense was set, watched the guy they are guarding cut backdoor on them, commit a stupid fool, etc...

[sonofdaxjones]

It's ALWAYS the players in basketball.  ALWAYS.

 

[Legore]

What more could Frank really do with this roster?  We have a roster full of guys who cannot shoot and no competent big men.  And do not forget that Frank Martin is the only reason why we still have a Basketball team worth bitching about.  If he hadn't kept the class together we'd be begging Justin Werner to start.  Begging him.  Frank. should kill you just for doubting him. 

So keeping the roster together two years ago makes it ok for his teams to play like crap?  What more could he do with this roster?  Well he could beat Oregon and Iowa for one his roster is better then those rosters.  Especially an Oregon team with 2 of it's 3 best players hurt.  Did people watch the game tonight?  The bad shot selection, the terrible turnovers, the defensive breakdowns, the stupid fouls.  How is that stuff not a reflection on coaching?  Especially when the same crap has happened every game we've played against legit competition.  

just b/c the roster is better doesn't mean the guys out on the court playing are better.  sometimes the guys playing have to be held accountable.  how many times have these guys jacked up 3's before the offense was set, watched the guy they are guarding cut backdoor on them, commit a stupid fool, etc...

at some point that becomes a reflection on the coaching.   Maybe it's still too early I don't know but it's been 3 straight games of this.  We had a week to prepare for Oregon and correct the mistakes from Vegas and if anything we were worse tonight then in Vegas.  I don't think people appreciate how bad this Oregon team is.  They are bad even with all their guys healthy and 2 of their best players didn't even suit up for the game.  We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

[sys]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

[Chingon]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

They would be better with better "X's and O's".

What do you expect when you have the "Highest Paid High School Coach in America"?

Not the K-State way.

[sonofdaxjones]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

They would be better with better "X's and O's".

What do you expect when you have the "Highest Paid High School Coach in America"?

Not the K-State way.

Chingon . . . now going to drama queen this one too death ala cRusty and Snyder.

Sad.

[Legore]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

undertalented compared to some but not Oregon and Iowa.  I don't think Iowa had a top 100 player on it's roster. 

[Chingon]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

They would be better with better "X's and O's".

What do you expect when you have the "Highest Paid High School Coach in America"?

Not the K-State way.

Chingon . . . now going to drama queen this one too death ala cRusty and Snyder.

Sad.

Your words, not mine.

[sys]

undertalented compared to some but not Oregon and Iowa.  I don't think Iowa had a top 100 player on it's roster. 

i think iowa may have had 1 or 2 (def. not sure).  but yeah.  oregon does have some rated recruits.



irregardless, you just aren't going to win many roads and neutrals without superior talent.

[Trim]

irregardless

WTF?

[AzCat]

irregardless

WTF?

This is the Internet, just roll with it Mr. Language Police. 

[sys]

it's a word.

big difference between the retarded misuse of words (e.g. co defensive coordinator), and the selective, informed use of non standard lexicon.  i like "ir" for emphasis.  i dislike capital letters.  and it's pretty obvious i'm just a little ahead of the curve on both.

[Trim]

it's a word.

big difference between the retarded misuse of words (e.g. co defensive coordinator), and the selective, informed use of non standard lexicon.  i like "ir" for emphasis.  i dislike capital letters.  and it's pretty obvious i'm just a little ahead of the curve on both.

Would Prince use it?   

[sys]

Would Prince use it?   

confirmed.

[steve dave]

LOL @ Dax in this thread

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL @ Dax in this thread

Nut swinging group thinker.

[steve dave]

LOL @ Dax in this thread

Nut swinging group thinker.

Yes, that was what I was implying.  The entire GPC bbs agrees with you.

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL @ Dax in this thread

Nut swinging group thinker.

Yes, that was what I was implying.  The entire GPC bbs agrees with you.

 

[michigancat]

We're young but not that young and we're getting beat by teams as young if not younger then we are.    

great point.  ksu is undertalented, not underexperienced.  ridiculous that ksu fans still haven't realized this despite high bbiq posters hammering on the issue all summer.

undertalented compared to some but not Oregon and Iowa.  I don't think Iowa had a top 100 player on it's roster. 

They did.