Hey Terry Pierce...

[sonofdaxjones]

Okay there Leawood.

Smoke and Mirrored their way to 12-1, and then when the schedule bowed up a little . . . splat . . . 5 losses. 

Just think . .  Ron Effing Prince has more wins over final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina.   

kus' success just eats you alive huh bro.    

Quit going to the overused squawktard play book.

The fact that Mark Mangina has fewer wins over Top 10 teams than Ron Prince has got to be painful.   Last year ku's SOS was 77 at the end of the regular season . . . this year its 24 and ku losses 5 games.  

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed.  

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . .  

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . .  

Didn't know DoD only applies to football.  I love how you guys narrow it down to make it seam like your university is a top notch sports program.  But outside of your DoD in football you have absolutely nothing, and even in your DoD you only have 1 conf title and nothing else.  

[fatty fat fat]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

huh?  i thought it was an entire decade?  You mean in 10 years of domination you only won 1 conference title and no BCS bowls?  You at least played for a NC during that time right? 

just curious... when did the BCS form?

1998.  4 years into your DoD

If the BCS allowed 4 at-large teams instead of two (which was the case leading int 2006) KSU would have made a BCS bowl in 1998, 1999 and 2002. That would have given us 4 total BCS bids.

KSU has gone 6-2 or better seven (7) times in the big 12's history. ku has done better than .500 once.

[fatty fat fat]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed. 

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . . 

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . . 

Didn't know DoD only applies to football.  I love how you guys narrow it down to make it seam like your university is a top notch sports program.  But outside of your DoD in football you have absolutely nothing, and even in your DoD you only have 1 conf title and nothing else. 

Congrats on your DoD in basketball. Too bad it's basketball. Hell, we were just as dominant heading into the 90's. BFD, basketball will always be 2nd tier.

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed. 

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . . 

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . . 

Didn't know DoD only applies to football.  I love how you guys narrow it down to make it seam like your university is a top notch sports program.  But outside of your DoD in football you have absolutely nothing, and even in your DoD you only have 1 conf title and nothing else. 

Congrats on your DoD in basketball. Too bad it's basketball. Hell, we were just as dominant heading into the 90's. BFD, basketball will always be 2nd tier.

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed. 

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . . 

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . . 

Didn't know DoD only applies to football.  I love how you guys narrow it down to make it seam like your university is a top notch sports program.  But outside of your DoD in football you have absolutely nothing, and even in your DoD you only have 1 conf title and nothing else. 

BFD, basketball will always be 2nd tier.

if that makes you feel better about your DoD in football

[cireksu]

kidding?  thought you'd realize how hard it is to do what we did after this year.

[Winters]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed. 

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . . 

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . . 

Didn't know DoD only applies to football.  I love how you guys narrow it down to make it seam like your university is a top notch sports program.  But outside of your DoD in football you have absolutely nothing, and even in your DoD you only have 1 conf title and nothing else. 

BFD, basketball will always be 2nd tier.

if that makes you feel better about your DoD in football

So your saying, Football<Basketball
GMAFB

[fatty fat fat]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

[j@yh@wks]

Okay there Leawood.

Smoke and Mirrored their way to 12-1, and then when the schedule bowed up a little . . . splat . . . 5 losses. 

Just think . .  Ron Effing Prince has more wins over final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina.   

kus' success just eats you alive huh bro.    

Quit going to the overused squawktard play book.

The fact that Mark Mangina has fewer wins over Top 10 teams than Ron Prince has got to be painful.   Last year ku's SOS was 77 at the end of the regular season . . . this year its 24 and ku losses 5 games.  

Doesn't bother me at all.  Concrats to prince.  what did it get him?  a sorry ass program dumping him after 2 years and going back in time hoping to reclaim the magic.  So after jumping up 50 places in SoS we only lost 4 more games.  By they way 4 of our 5 losses are to top 20 teams with 3 being top 5.  I'm sorry if i'm not all that disappointed.  What was your SoS this year?

[j@yh@wks]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

oh, don't get me wrong. i'm impressed with what snyder did, but to claim domination without winning a single Title is laughable to me and everyone outside the KSU fandom.

[TAFNA Dude]

can't believe this thread exists.

this is terry &@#%ing pierce you &@#%ing morons.  they gave him more money as a signing bonus just to be associated with football than all of you &@#%tards will make in a lifetime.  his pinkie toe has more football knowledge than you. you should be paying him money just to speak to him.

congrats on your first back to back bowl seasons EVER in the history of your program..yep, the talent there is overwhelming!  now go eat a dick you &@#%ing &@#%s.

-dude

[catdude33]

Hell, ku fans are celebrating this season as a success at 7-5.  Remember how pissed we were in 2001?  Well they just had our 2001 and they are celebrating.  They don't get it.

[sonofdaxjones]

Big 12 North schools during the DOD . . . 4 conference titles, 3 National Titles, played for 1 more.   Big 12 North since 2003 . . . no conference titles, only a brief sniffage of a national title from a smoke and mirrors schedule.

The old schedule gets a little tough . . . and ku football program coming off a 12-1 smoke and mirrors season drops 5 games.

K-State's SOS was 54 BTW.  

sqauwktards find out you have to do a little more than "talk" to be able to say you're just going to "reload".

Big 12 North at its lowest point ever, and ku still can't find its way into the CCG.  

[fatty fat fat]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

oh, don't get me wrong. i'm impressed with what snyder did, but to claim domination without winning a single Title is laughable to me and everyone outside the KSU fandom.

Mack Brown has been at texas 11 years, and has one single big 12 title. This isn't hoops where 3 different teams are given a trophy every year, and a conference tournament also gives out a trophy.

[sonofdaxjones]

Wow . . . the highest paid coach in the Big 12 North goes 7-5 this year.

Heh Hoax.

[Ezah Miester]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

oh, don't get me wrong. i'm impressed with what snyder did, but to claim domination without winning a single Title is laughable to me and everyone outside the KSU fandom.

Mack Brown has been at texas 11 years, and has one single big 12 title. This isn't hoops where 3 different teams are given a trophy every year, and a conference tournament also gives out a trophy.

^perspective^ 

[omahawildcat]

Hell, ku fans are celebrating this season as a success at 7-5.  Remember how pissed we were in 2001?  Well they just had our 2001 and they are celebrating.  They don't get it.

The big 12 North was 10 times more difficult in 2001 as well.

[FUKU]

I think it's funny that ku fans are talking about how much farther along they are than K-State in football when in reality, we just finished 9th in the conference and fired our coach, and they just finished 7th in the exact same conference and are celebrating like they won a championship. Kinda puts things into perspective.

[sonofdaxjones]

I think it's funny that ku fans are talking about how much farther along they are than K-State in football when in reality, we just finished 9th in the conference and fired our coach, and they just finished 7th in the exact same conference and are celebrating like they won a championship. Kinda puts things into perspective.

Hey $2.3 million a year for a 43-41 record.

[BMWJhawk]

Okay there Leawood.

Smoke and Mirrored their way to 12-1, and then when the schedule bowed up a little . . . splat . . . 5 losses. 

Just think . .  Ron Effing Prince has more wins over final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina.   

kus' success just eats you alive huh bro.    

Quit going to the overused squawktard play book.

The fact that Mark Mangina has fewer wins over Top 10 teams than Ron Prince has got to be painful.   Last year ku's SOS was 77 at the end of the regular season . . . this year its 24 and ku losses 5 games.  

Not painful at all.  Mangino won National Coach of the Year last season while Ron Prince was struggling to go 5-7.  Thanks to Ron Prince, K-State's football program is at the bottom of the Big 12.  Talk about smoke and mirrors... those wins over Texas were complete flukes.  It's hilarious though how much that 12-1 Orange Bowl season is still eating you up inside.  ku had a damn good football team last year.  This season, everyone has a different team.  Maybe if K-State fielded a decent football team every once in a while, ku's SOS would be even higher.

[BMWJhawk]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

[catsdo]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

K-state's 1998 team would have killed ku last year.  ku hasn't even gone to a Big 12 title game.  You guys had one fluke season and finally beat a ranked team this year....Mizzou.  Before the Mizzou game you yourself wouldn't shut up about how this team couldn't beat anyone that the 2004 team couldn't beat.  One fluke win against Missouri sure changed your story around, huh?

[catdude33]

and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.

srsly?

[LimestoneOutcropping]

and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.

srsly?

Awesome. 

Most ku fans I know would settle for winning a North at least once.  This guy thinks they are Florida all of the sudden.

[cireksu]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

That 07 team sucked. Our 2001 team was still the #4 ranked Defense in the country. Your 07 team wouldnt have even scored. Best case scenario vs our 01 team with your 07 would be 0-0. Although Im sure our defense would have scored, and we would have ran the ball down your throat with that soft ass defense you guys had. You need to learn Football 101 cause ku 07 wouldnt have stood a chance against against any ksu team from 97-2003. This isn't even arguable!

It's arguable when you are in complete denial of how good we were during those years and how incredibly flukey their season was last year.

[DynastyCat]

 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

[Brock Landers]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

Wow BMW, just......wow.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

not claiming a DoD.  just wondering how you guys claim it with a straight face.

I don't know. Imagine ku having the 2007 team for 11 straight years. Yeah, ku fans wouldn't celebrate that at all.

but alas, when you have one great year then fall back the next year like ku constantly does, it can be hard to relate...i understand.

That's not even close to a good comparison.  ku's '07 team was better than anything K-State football has put on the field.  Period.  You never even competed for a National Championship.  You had six straight 11-win seasons.  Congrats.  That doesn't compare to winning the National Championship, believe me.  You'll never understand what it's like until you experience one for yourself. 

ku has a chance to go 8-5 this year and will have been bowl eligible 4 out of the last 5 years.  ku should be one of the favorites to win the North again next year and I wouldn't be surprised if this program started winning 8-10 games a season.  K-State is in desperation mode after hiring a 70 year-old Bill Snyder and your '09 recruiting class is a joke. 

Enjoy bowl season sitting at home watching K-State basketball.

 

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Actually this makes a lot of sense.  This proves BMW is really only like 8 years old.  He doesn't remember anything past 04.