Hey Terry Pierce...

[Bullfn33]

imo, college football success is about 60% talent and 40% coaching.

yes, bob and mack are simply football geniuses that have all the x's and o's answers the others don't.

Hey, I agree, I said talent is more important but I also think coaching goes a long way toward success too..for instance, remember when Texas sucked last year(their standards) and then got Muschamp? They are basically the same team only now they are contending for a National Championship.

[cireksu]

venzy steals signals.


 

[BMWJhawk]

Mr. Pierce, you are beyond delusional. 


QB:  ku >>> K-State

- Reesing is much more talented than Josh Freeman.  Not even close.  Freeman has the NFL size and that's about it.

RB:  ku >>  K-State

-  Look at what Jake Sharp did to K-State's defense.  It was a complete joke.  ku's got more depth at this position as well with Crawford and Quigley. 

WR:  ku >>> K-State

- Briscoe, Meier, and Wilson are better than anything K-State puts on the field.  Banks is a midget with speed and that's about it. 

TE:  K-State >  ku

- Mastrud is pretty good, so I'll give it to K-State.  Biere will be a good player for ku though.

OL:  ku >>>> K-State

-  In the ku/K-State game, ku had 280 rushing yards to K-State's 91.  Those are facts.  Say what you want about coaching, but K-State has very little talent up front.  Your o-line got dominated up front, while ku's made it look easy.  Spikes and Hatch, the two freshman o-tackles, are getting better each week.  Mangino has done a great job of assembling talent on the o-line. 


DL:  ku >> K-State

- ku's d-line pretty much dominated K-State once again this year.  Jamal Greene, Richard Johnson, Darius Parish, and Caleb Blakesley are all very solid up front.  The d-ends have had trouble getting pressure, but Laptad and Onyegbule are both starting to come along nicely.  Brorsen has had some great games over the past couple of years against K-State as well.  ku also has some redshirt freshman who have a chance to be really good in the next few years.  Campbell and Harold are about all K-State has on the d-line.


CB:  ku >> K-State

-  Josh Moore is good.  Aside from that, K-State's cornerbacks are pretty weak.  Thornton and Patterson have been an improvement for ku over Harper and Harris.  ku has young, high school players in the program like Ryan Murphy and Greg Brown who could develop into good players down the road.  K-State, thanks to Ron Prince, has a bunch of Juco's at this position.


S:  ku >>>> K-State

-  Darrell Stuckey is a beast.  This one isn't even close.  Phillip Strozier and Chris Harris are both solid as well.  For K-State, Herndon and Carney are decent, but Hartman is horrible.  ku is bringing in a nice group of safeties in the '09 recruiting class, so this position will continue to be a strong area for ku.

LB:  ku >>>>> K-State

- Once again, not close. James Holt is playing like a 1st-team All-Big 12 perfromer this year.  Rivera and Mortensen are both solid, and there's depth with guys like Arist Wright and Justin Springer.  Against ku, K-State's best linebacker was a freshman walk-on. 


KR/PR:  K-State >>>  ku


- Banks and Murphy have taken a couple kicks back this year while ku has struggled in this area.  Still, Marcus Herford was a 1st-team AA last season and Daymond Patterson returned a punt for a TD in his first college game. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben is in full on Validation mode.

You know you're not really going anywhere when you're a ku fan over on a ksu board trying to validate the ku football program.

[Bookcat]

ku is going to the Ft. Worth/Insight.com bowl and he's on the board with the validation gas pedal to the floor.?

What a douche.

btw...I'd like to see you smart off the Pierce in person. Would be funny to see.

[bigdeal]

Mr. Pierce, you are beyond delusional. 


QB:  ku >>> K-State

- Reesing is much more talented than Josh Freeman.  Not even close.  Freeman has the NFL size and that's about it.

RB:  ku >>  K-State

-  Look at what Jake Sharp did to K-State's defense.  It was a complete joke.  ku's got more depth at this position as well with Crawford and Quigley. 

WR:  ku >>> K-State

- Briscoe, Meier, and Wilson are better than anything K-State puts on the field.  Banks is a midget with speed and that's about it. 

TE:  K-State >  ku

- Mastrud is pretty good, so I'll give it to K-State.  Biere will be a good player for ku though.

OL:  ku >>>> K-State

-  In the ku/K-State game, ku had 280 rushing yards to K-State's 91.  Those are facts.  Say what you want about coaching, but K-State has very little talent up front.  Your o-line got dominated up front, while ku's made it look easy.  Spikes and Hatch, the two freshman o-tackles, are getting better each week.  Mangino has done a great job of assembling talent on the o-line. 


DL:  ku >> K-State

- ku's d-line pretty much dominated K-State once again this year.  Jamal Greene, Richard Johnson, Darius Parish, and Caleb Blakesley are all very solid up front.  The d-ends have had trouble getting pressure, but Laptad and Onyegbule are both starting to come along nicely.  Brorsen has had some great games over the past couple of years against K-State as well.  ku also has some redshirt freshman who have a chance to be really good in the next few years.  Campbell and Harold are about all K-State has on the d-line.


CB:  ku >> K-State

-  Josh Moore is good.  Aside from that, K-State's cornerbacks are pretty weak.  Thornton and Patterson have been an improvement for ku over Harper and Harris.  ku has young, high school players in the program like Ryan Murphy and Greg Brown who could develop into good players down the road.  K-State, thanks to Ron Prince, has a bunch of Juco's at this position.


S:  ku >>>> K-State

-  Darrell Stuckey is a beast.  This one isn't even close.  Phillip Strozier and Chris Harris are both solid as well.  For K-State, Herndon and Carney are decent, but Hartman is horrible.  ku is bringing in a nice group of safeties in the '09 recruiting class, so this position will continue to be a strong area for ku.

LB:  ku >>>>> K-State

- Once again, not close. James Holt is playing like a 1st-team All-Big 12 perfromer this year.  Rivera and Mortensen are both solid, and there's depth with guys like Arist Wright and Justin Springer.  Against ku, K-State's best linebacker was a freshman walk-on. 


KR/PR:  K-State >>>  ku


- Banks and Murphy have taken a couple kicks back this year while ku has struggled in this area.  Still, Marcus Herford was a 1st-team AA last season and Daymond Patterson returned a punt for a TD in his first college game. 

Well, I've read TP's analysis of the TALENT, and BMW's talent analysis......please go home and lick your wounds....or whatever you lick BMW.  TP has woned you again.  Try for validation with your own little cronies. 

[cyclist]

All Big 12 and NFL linebacker >>>>> Argyle wearing ku fan.

What more needs to be said...

[Winters]

All Big 12 and NFL linebacker >>>>> Argyle wearing ku fan.

What more needs to be said...

QFT

[BMWJhawk]

K-State's players don't execute the plays correctly because they suck.  They lack talent.  Snyder won't change that.  52-21 wasn't just because of coaching, you incompetent f*cking morons.  ku called off the dogs or else the score could have been 70-14.

[yoman]

don't you have friends or something? you know that you can talk to about your big win?

[McGrowlTowelZac]

don't you have friends or something? you know that you can talk to about your big win?

haha...but really, we already know the answer to this. around ku fans bmw is just another clueless football fan, but here he is the center of attention.  he's a princess who loves attention, good or bad. why we humor him is beyond me.  i guess we all like to  laugh at the court jester.

[j@yh@wks]

I guess ku fans can be proud of this season, 7 wins, bowl eligible.  It should also give them a better understanding of how hard it is to win consistently in the Big XII and perhaps help open their eyes as to how truly amazing the DoD was.

DoD.  what a joke. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben is near meltdown again.

$2.3 million a year and all we got was a win over a 9-4 mu team.   

[Winters]

I guess ku fans can be proud of this season, 7 wins, bowl eligible.  It should also give them a better understanding of how hard it is to win consistently in the Big XII and perhaps help open their eyes as to how truly amazing the DoD was.

DoD.  what a joke. 

Your best season was 2nd in the north. 

[j@yh@wks]

I guess ku fans can be proud of this season, 7 wins, bowl eligible.  It should also give them a better understanding of how hard it is to win consistently in the Big XII and perhaps help open their eyes as to how truly amazing the DoD was.

DoD.  what a joke. 

Your best season was 2nd in the north. 

yeah..we are getting a YoD dvd ready.  is the bad teams in the B12N all you dominated?  just trying to clarify

[sonofdaxjones]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

huh?  i thought it was an entire decade?  You mean in 10 years of domination you only won 1 conference title and no BCS bowls?  You at least played for a NC during that time right? 

[sonofdaxjones]

Don't play dumb jayhawks.    Just think the DOD was developing and then happening when CU and NU won a combined 4 National Titles, and played for 3 more. 

Just think . . . ku is paying Mangina $2.3 million a year, and after 7 years his best win might be a win over an MU team that will have to win its bowl game to cling to a Top 25 spot. 

[catdude33]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

[sonofdaxjones]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

Understood.

Amazing how badly the North has fallen . . . after next Saturday, barring a miracle, the North won't have won a big 12 title since 2003.   

[j@yh@wks]

Don't play dumb jayhawks.    Just think the DOD was developing and then happening when CU and NU won a combined 4 National Titles, and played for 3 more. 

Just think . . . ku is paying Mangina $2.3 million a year, and after 7 years his best win might be a win over an MU team that will have to win its bowl game to cling to a Top 25 spot. 

So it should be NU and CU claiming DoD?
PS> I think a coach taking a team to 12-1 and an BCS bowl win is worth at least 2mil.  this MU win was just icing on the cake.  hell, after Sat might as well tack on another 500000.  Sad that after your DoD you could only pull a coach from the coordinator ranks and only one that would take 750G a year.  Kinda funny though how you guys are always trying to copy nub.  

[sonofdaxjones]

Okay there Leawood.

Smoke and Mirrored their way to 12-1, and then when the schedule bowed up a little . . . splat . . . 5 losses. 

Just think . .  Ron Effing Prince has more wins over final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina.   

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed.  

[fatty fat fat]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed. 

We aren't talking about basketball. We are talking about the sport where ku hasn't seen an outright conference title in nearly 90 years.

[FBWillie]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

huh?  i thought it was an entire decade?  You mean in 10 years of domination you only won 1 conference title and no BCS bowls?  You at least played for a NC during that time right? 

just curious... when did the BCS form?

[sonofdaxjones]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

I don't know.  We could claim 5 or 6 DoD in Bball.  I've experienced 2 NC in my life, and seen them play for 2 others.   How bout yourself?  My confusion comes from KSU and it's claim of domination over 10 years that saw 9 different Conf champions and 10 diff national champs.  None with KSU on their jerseys.  If a DVD is all you have after your great DoD then i'm just not impressed.  I get the joke, but i'm not impressed.  

When in doubt change the sport.

We'll just chalk you up as another squawktard who just doesn't "get it".

Sad . . .  

Ron Prince has more wins over Final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina . . .  

[j@yh@wks]

Okay there Leawood.

Smoke and Mirrored their way to 12-1, and then when the schedule bowed up a little . . . splat . . . 5 losses. 

Just think . .  Ron Effing Prince has more wins over final Top 10 teams than Mark Mangina.   

kus' success just eats you alive huh bro.    

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

We are talking about the sport where ku hasn't seen an outright conference title in nearly 90 years.

but still has the same amount as KSU.

[j@yh@wks]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

huh?  i thought it was an entire decade?  You mean in 10 years of domination you only won 1 conference title and no BCS bowls?  You at least played for a NC during that time right? 

just curious... when did the BCS form?

1998.  4 years into your DoD

[fatty fat fat]

Actually we went into Austin and beat Texas who won the South that year beat USC and Carson Palmer who won the Orange Bowl that year, beat #4 Nebraska, beat #1 OU . . . oh yeah beat #10 ku.

Dax, no.  It's pointless to try to explain a DoD to a person who has never experienced one.  They just can't wrap their brains around it.

We are talking about the sport where ku hasn't seen an outright conference title in nearly 90 years.

but still has the same amount as KSU.

Congrats dude. Maybe your dead gamps can detail that 1930 big six title.