Hey Terry Pierce...

[sonofdaxjones]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

[BMWJhawk]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

Will that validate your claim that Mangino can't beat a top 25 team, 'Pad? 

[Oklahoma_Cat]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

Will that validate your claim that Mangino can't beat a top 25 team, 'Pad? 

How were your seats to the big game, Ben?

[Jmo]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

Will that validate your claim that Mangino can't beat a top 25 team, 'Pad? 

Finally.....

[sonofdaxjones]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

Will that validate your claim that Mangino can't beat a top 25 team, 'Pad? 

You don't read very well Captain Validator . . . the caveat is a regular season win against a Final Top 25  team.   After SEVEN years Mangino just might have ONE . . . too bad ku can't get 2-3-4-5 weeks to prepare for every big game.  Briscoe was a stud today.  

But I LOL . . . you're such a pissant, over here one week talking about how ku is such a fraud, it was all smoke and mirrors, saying you wouldn't mind if Mangino resigned . . . now you want everyone to kiss your ass (5 minutes after the game today) because ku beat a team that will have 4 losses after next weekend.  

[catdude33]

Remember when we tried to convince ourselves that Lamark was better than Briscoe?  That was hilarious.  I blame Manhatter.

[BMWJhawk]

After next weekend moo may be struggling to hang on to the Top 25.

Will that validate your claim that Mangino can't beat a top 25 team, 'Pad? 

You don't read very well Captain Validator . . . the caveat is a regular season win against a Final Top 25  team.   After SEVEN years Mangino just might have ONE . . . too bad ku can't get 2-3-4-5 weeks to prepare for every big game.  Briscoe was a stud today.  

But I LOL . . . you're such a pissant, over here one week talking about how ku is such a fraud, it was all smoke and mirrors, saying you wouldn't mind if Mangino resigned . . . now you want everyone to kiss your ass (5 minutes after the game today) because ku beat a team that will have 4 losses after next weekend.  

Don't take it so personal, 'Pad.  I'm just asking Mr. Pierce if he still believes that ku and K-State are equal in terms of talent.  Yes, I've been critical of Mangino lately.  I was disappointed with the way the '08 season had turned out.  

Also, I will never buy your "smoke and mirrors" argument.  Last year's ku team was different than this year's team.  The '07 version had players like Talib, Collins, Fine, Henry, McAnderson, McClinton, etc.  That was a damn good football team.  Would they have gone 11-0 with this year's schedule?  I doubt it, but I think that team would have beaten last year's Tech and last year's Texas.

As for the caveat, I remembered.  If Mizzou wins their bowl game, they'll finish top 25.  They're 5-3 in the Big 12, so you can mark that one off the check list.  You'll need to come up with more and more as Mangino continues to build and continues to improve ku's football program.  

[sonofdaxjones]

So let me get this straight . . . you just spent 25 minutes on a Saturday night coming up with that response??

Like I said, after SEVEN years, Mangino just might have gotten his first regular season win over a Final Top 25 team. 

But what happened when the schedule bowed up on ku .  . . . 5 losses, including several absolute debacles.

Winning 10-11 games a year for multiple years is . . .  hard.

Congrats to ku for sowing up the 6th or 7th best team in the Big 12 position.

[ksuno1stunner]

bmw wins.  ksufansers horrible message boarders (and low fbiqers).

Go lose to Iowa or something.

[wes mantooth]

bmw wins.  ksufansers horrible message boarders (and low fbiqers).

Go lose to Iowa or something.

go ardcah a goat and i taquqtastion you r kstiatpirotism bithc .? /

[ksuno1stunner]

bmw wins.  ksufansers horrible message boarders (and low fbiqers).

Go lose to Iowa or something.

go ardcah a goat and i taquqtastion you r kstiatpirotism bithc .? /

 

[PowercatPat]

Why have you all of a sudden appeared on the KSU borad after you just beat Mizzou?

[Winters]

 

[KCcat28]

TP is the answer. 

[fatty fat fat]

ku's 2009 defense should be hilarious. Stucky and....ummm...errr...laptad? 

[KCcat28]

ku's 2009 defense should be hilarious. Stucky and....ummm...errr...laptad? 

Next year could see the return of Nebraska and KSU back atop the north division... that is if we have a smooth transition into next season and the new system is quickly picked up.

[cireksu]

ku's 2009 defense should be hilarious. Stucky and....ummm...errr...laptad? 

Next year could see the return of Nebraska and KSU back atop the north division... that is if we have a smooth transition into next season and the new system is quickly picked up.

LOL, go research first year coaches inheriting back to back losing teams.

[cireksu]

.... are you still going to try to convince everyone that ku and K-State have the same talent level? 


 

[BMWJhawk]

.... are you still going to try to convince everyone that ku and K-State have the same talent level? 


 

I love it when stupid fans get on the board and prepare themselves to look like complete dumbasses. I have been away from the board for the Holidays but I come back to this? Dude, Mizzou is not very good at all #1. #2 KSU is bad more because of coaching than talent and that still holds true. Look at the question you asked...Talent is what is in question, not the your teams performance in one game vs. a rival, in bad weather, and on neutral ground. We played Mizzou at MU on their Senior Day. 24-41 does not tell the entire story. You would know that if you watched the game. We had kids playing with no motivation, with a fired coach at the helm. I would hardly call that comparable circumstances. Very stupid post! Is this because you want people to know who you are? Hey everyone BMWHjawk is on our board! Does that make you feel better? You gotta be kidding me! If you are going to compare talent spend some time doing the research, you may be able to come up with a good argument if you did, but this is a waste of the boards time...

You're calling me stupid, yet you're the one who thinks ku and K-State have the same talent level?  Ron Prince loaded up on Juco scrubs and failed miserably at recruiting o-line and d-line.  If you can't see that, you're an even bigger idiot than I thought.  You're in for a rude awakening if you think Old Balls Snyder is going to come in and turn that around in one season.  You might be more delusional than Manhatter, Mr. Pierce, and that is saying something.

[Del Tremens]

How's the weather out there at Arrowhead, Benji?  Looks pretty cold.  Did you have good seats?

 

[Saulbadguy]

Don't mess with Ben.  He is going to make a six figure income out of school.  I believe he is interested in investments and securities.

[sys]

Don't mess with Ben.  He is going to make a six figure income out of school.  I believe he is interested in investments and securities.

that's his friend (who seems pretty stupid, and i don't understand why ben associates with him).  not ben.

[fatty fat fat]

okay, let's talk talent.

qb: ku > ksu
rb: ku >>> ksu
wr: ku >> ksu
ol: ku > ksu
dl: ku = ksu
lb: ku >>> ksu
cb's: ksu >> ku
safeties: ku >> ksu

result? 52-21. Makes sense to me.

Good thing is that rosters/talent level change wildly from year to year.

[Saulbadguy]

Don't mess with Ben.  He is going to make a six figure income out of school.  I believe he is interested in investments and securities.

that's his friend (who seems pretty stupid, and i don't understand why ben associates with him).  not ben.

I'll have to look the thread up.  I'm pretty sure Ben said it too.

[sonofdaxjones]

Nope . . . Ben has said many times as soon as he graduates he's headed off to six figures easy, and weekends on his yacht smoking Cohiba's.

[cyclist]

Nope . . . Ben has said many times as soon as he graduates he's headed off to six figures easy, and weekends on his yacht smoking Cohiba's.

While wearing argyle clothing...

[SnackPackz]

okay, let's talk talent.

qb: ku > ksu
rb: ku >>> ksu
wr: ku >> ksu
ol: ku > ksu
dl: ku = ksu
lb: ku >>> ksu
cb's: ksu >> ku
safeties: ku >> ksu

result? 52-21. Makes sense to me.

Good thing is that rosters/talent level change wildly from year to year.

hardly the truth here.
QB- with a better coach Freeman is leaps and bounds more TALENTED than Reesing, But Reesing is a winner
RB- With an actual running game Brown is as good as Sharp or better TALENT wise
WR-Even, Yeah I said it. Based on TALENT. Briscoe is good, Meier is decent, so are Banks, Pierce, and Murphy and Quarles
OL-Equal, horrible blocking schemes and no running game makes ku SEEM more TALENTED, that's all
DL-I would argue that KSU's is better if we'd been running a 4-3 Defense. ku's Ends are horrible, The worst in the Big 12
LB-ku is better here, experience has a lot to do with that, definitely not all talent though
Safeties-ku is better here only because of Stuckey
CB-KSU much better
Returners-KSU is much better based on TALENT
 All in All this Seems pretty equal to me, Based on TALENT. Not based on wins and losses. not based on coaching,not based on stats, but TALENT
52-21 When last years score was much closer (30-24) explains a lot of horrible coaching, in my opinion. But, I can definitely see why you would say what you said. I was talking about TALENT-a characteristic feature, aptitude, or disposition of a person or animal
3: the natural skill of a person
4 a: a special often athletic, creative, or artistic aptitude as explained by Websters...

 

[fatty fat fat]

thanks for the reply tp.

 

[Bullfn33]

imo, college football success is about 60% talent and 40% coaching.

[fatty fat fat]

imo, college football success is about 60% talent and 40% coaching.

yes, bob and mack are simply football geniuses that have all the x's and o's answers the others don't.