Thoughts on Dylan's game?

[michigancat]

He played a very nice 3rd quarter, I thought.

His arm is not healthy.

Is he the worst KSU QB since ?(Pre-Chad May???)

[AzCat]

Right now he's probably the worst KSU QB since the late 80s but he's probably either playing hurt or never reocvered from the surgery.  The first half was dismal and he had a few key errors in the second half that ended drives.  With even an average QB we score 50 on Marshall today. 

[PoetWarrior]

Thoughts?

Not good.

[soonbcat]

he had a bad first half, but i think he picked it up in the second half. i gotta give him a little credit though, ron prince just shouldn't have ran out all of our other qb's.  He still sucks, but he's all we got at the moment

[sonofdaxjones]

Geez ... some of you apparently don't remember  how bad some of KSU's QB's sucked in the 80's.

[JavaCat]

So Dylan has been our quarterback for 3 games to mixed reviews and there's really been no proof that Prince wants to have Freeman in there. Everidge, Webb, and Lopina couldn't beat out this Dylan? Or could they foresee the future and knew they wouldn't get a chance in the future?

[wildcat79]

Webb had a pretty good cast and he was pretty average at best. I think Meyer gets better when his pass protection get better. Same goes when they get the blocking down for the running game. He will have more time and teams will pay if they try to tee off on him. He got rushed a lot today. I will say how ever that I was dissapointed to see Everidge leave.With that said it be what it be. Should be interesting to see what new quarter back sign with K-state.

[waks]

Webb had a pretty good cast and he was pretty average at best. I think Meyer gets better when his pass protection get better. Same goes when they get the blocking down for the running game. He will have more time and teams will pay if they try to tee off on him. He got rushed a lot today. I will say how ever that I was dissapointed to see Everidge leave.With that said it be what it be. Should be interesting to see what new quarter back sign with K-state.

a lot of his overthrown passes could be contributed to the wind. if it isn't windy next week. he might complete a few..

[michigancat]

So Dylan has been our quarterback for 3 games to mixed reviews and there's really been no proof that Prince wants to have Freeman in there. Everidge, Webb, and Lopina couldn't beat out this Dylan? Or could they foresee the future and knew they wouldn't get a chance in the future?

Yeah, our offseaon qb moves make no sense.

[swish1]

So Dylan has been our quarterback for 3 games to mixed reviews and there's really been no proof that Prince wants to have Freeman in there. Everidge, Webb, and Lopina couldn't beat out this Dylan? Or could they foresee the future and knew they wouldn't get a chance in the future?

mixed reviews?  you mean there are people out there who think hes good?  he sucks and until he doesnt suck we will have a crappy offense like we have had the first 3 games of the year.  unless he pulls his head out of his ass against louisville we will lose b/c they can actually score points.

[Skycat]

19-35 256 and aTD ain't bad for a team that can't run the ball.  He had a horrid second quarter, but played decently outside of that.

I don't think he's any worse than either of the guys we had last year. 

Before that I'll reserve judgement for a couple of weeks, but I'm not sure that Kav was much better if at all. 

[kougar24]

He sucks, but our O-line sucks way worse.

[WILDCAT NATION]

If he had a power running game to work with and we quite playing chuck and duck, I think he'll be fine.

How bad is Freeman to not be playing?

[michigancat]

I'm not convinced the OL is worse than Dylan.

If he had a power running game to work with and we quite playing chuck and duck, I think he'll be fine.

How bad is Freeman to not be playing?

Um, that "chuck and duck" passing game is about all Dylan could complete.  That five yard TE curl was as good as any running play....I had no problem with playcalling yesterday.

[Saulbadguy]

I think our pass protection is 100% better than what it was in the Illinois State game.  He had quite a bit of time to complete passes, IMO.  Many of his balls were simply underthrown - or overthrown. 

I'm not sold on Thomas Clayton, either.  Our blocking could be alot better, but Clayton can't break tackles - period.

[jmlynch1]

I think our pass protection is 100% better than what it was in the Illinois State game.  He had quite a bit of time to complete passes, IMO.  Many of his balls were simply underthrown - or overthrown.

We're tied for 4th in the nation in sacks allowed! What O-Line problems?

[michigancat]

I think our pass protection is 100% better than what it was in the Illinois State game.  He had quite a bit of time to complete passes, IMO.  Many of his balls were simply underthrown - or overthrown.

We're tied for 4th in the nation in sacks allowed! What O-Line problems?

98th in passing efficiency.   

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/ranking_summary/2006000000327.HTML

[jmlynch1]

Meier is AWFUL!!!

[JavaCat]

I'm not a big fan of Clayton. The o-line isn't good, but we need a back in there that can follow his blocks when they are there. Clayton constantly cuts back into trouble and yes, he can't break a tackle. I want to know what's up with Johnson. He must be horrendous at picking up blocks. Sure would be nice to see what he can do. Heck, I liked Petrie yesterday more than Clayton. As much as Prince likes to sub players I was surprised we didn't see Patton or Johnson yesterday. As much crap that KSU fans have given ku about Cornish, I'd take him in a heartbeat over what we've seen so far.

[Tuggles]

I'm not sold on Thomas Clayton, either.  Our blocking could be alot better, but Clayton can't break tackles - period

I have maintained this stance since conference play started last year, he is vastly overrated.  He might as well quit football and start his career in bodybuilding because his strength is not functional.

[kougar24]

Agreed on Clayton, though I think some of you are starting to overestimate our O-line.

It really really blows.

[michigancat]

 

Agreed on Clayton, though I think some of you are starting to overestimate our O-line.

It really really blows.

No, not really.  My assessment of the OL isn't much different from yours.

I just think Dylan's worse.

[mjrod]

Everyone talks about Clayton's power, that he's a strong back, but he just never seems to eithe punch the hole hard enough, or goes down the moment someone touches him.

The O-Line isn't that bad, and after watching Petrie take a few runs, there obviously is something Clayton isn't capable of doing.  Clayton just needs to learn how to drive through the tackle attempts.

[kougar24]

Agreed on Clayton, though I think some of you are starting to overestimate our O-line.

It really really blows.

No, not really.  My assessment of the OL isn't much different from yours.

I just think Dylan's worse.

Ah. Well, in my opinion, for Dylan's suckiness to be equivalent to the O-line's, he'd have to go 3-27 for 17 yards, 5 ints and no TDs. That's how bad I think our O-line is.

[michigancat]

Agreed on Clayton, though I think some of you are starting to overestimate our O-line.

It really really blows.

No, not really.  My assessment of the OL isn't much different from yours.

I just think Dylan's worse.

Ah. Well, in my opinion, for Dylan's suckiness to be equivalent to the O-line's, he'd have to go 3-27 for 17 yards, 5 ints and no TDs. That's how bad I think our O-line is.

wow. 

98th in passing efficiency, 70th in rushing, 4th in sacks allowed.

[kougar24]

It's just my opinion based on watching individual matchups at the line. They're getting beaten by players on these teams who have no business beating them.

[StocktonCat]

Since the thread started on Dylan and got whacked to Clayton.......Clayton is not a great RB but he's not bad either.  The bottom line is he is the best we've got and one of the only RBs we've got that can block.  Give him a break!!  Go Cats!!

[michigancat]

It's just my opinion based on watching individual matchups at the line. They're getting beaten by players on these teams who have no business beating them.

I see.  You prefer to make assessments based on perception rather than actual results.

[fatty fat fat]

I trust kougar24's (computer science major) offensive line X's and O's analysis.

[kougar24]

Ha, shut up. Besides, I'm a terrible CS student.

Anyhoo, perhaps I am mistaken, and just expect too much from an O-line with an O-line guy for a head coach after 3 games against mostly weak opponents.