Date: 29/08/25 - 15:29 PM   48060 Topics and 694399 Posts

Author Topic: From the Mercury Sports BBS  (Read 3295 times)

November 12, 2008, 08:04:23 AM
Read 3295 times

sonofdaxjones

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 15644
Gary Patterson Information    (suggest removal of this post)
11/12/2008 7:44:19 AM
I just spoke to the Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at tcu last night about all of these rumors concerning GP. Donnie told me that GP has told the team as of Monday that he is not coming to KSU. He told them he and his family are very happy in Fort Worth, the team is winning and very successful. He told them that he turned down KSU once, so why would he go now. Donnie has no reason to believe otherwise. So I believe everyone needs to calm down a bit about GP being the next coach at KSU. My source works at tcu and interacts with GP on a daily basis.. I just felt I should let people know the "real" story..
Posted By: catfan

November 12, 2008, 08:11:57 AM
Reply #1

michigancat

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 23713
  • Personal Text
    You can't be racist and like basketball.
I have a reason to believe otherwise:

All coaches are liars.

Will make BV to Clemson even more heartbreaking if true, though.

November 12, 2008, 08:13:02 AM
Reply #2

tmramrod91

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 1360

November 12, 2008, 08:13:36 AM
Reply #3

Lynch

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 574
  • Personal Text
    K-StateNation.com
    • K-State Nation
So, somehow, because you logged onto a message board, and read a quote that another guy wrote about Wefald, Wefald is "in your face?"  I'll go along with that.  I wish Hemmingway would get off my nuts.

November 12, 2008, 08:22:57 AM
Reply #4

ArchE_Cat

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 1117
  • Personal Text
    ksufanscopycat
Gary Patterson Information    (suggest removal of this post)
11/12/2008 7:44:19 AM
I just spoke to the Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at tcu last night about all of these rumors concerning GP. Donnie told me that GP has told the team as of Monday that he is not coming to KSU. He told them he and his family are very happy in Fort Worth, the team is winning and very successful. He told them that he turned down KSU once, so why would he go now. Donnie has no reason to believe otherwise. So I believe everyone needs to calm down a bit about GP being the next coach at KSU. My source works at tcu and interacts with GP on a daily basis.. I just felt I should let people know the "real" story..
Posted By: catfan

Interesting considering it's a proven fact that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM by ArchE_Cat »

November 12, 2008, 08:26:16 AM
Reply #5

hemmy

  • Scout Team Wildcat

  • Offline
  • **

  • 6020
  • Personal Text
    Anti-government
Gary Patterson Information    (suggest removal of this post)
11/12/2008 7:44:19 AM
I just spoke to the Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at tcu last night about all of these rumors concerning GP. Donnie told me that GP has told the team as of Monday that he is not coming to KSU. He told them he and his family are very happy in Fort Worth, the team is winning and very successful. He told them that he turned down KSU once, so why would he go now. Donnie has no reason to believe otherwise. So I believe everyone needs to calm down a bit about GP being the next coach at KSU. My source works at tcu and interacts with GP on a daily basis.. I just felt I should let people know the "real" story..
Posted By: catfan

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Yep, busted :nono:
"Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

November 12, 2008, 08:26:38 AM
Reply #6

GoodForAnother

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 1483
  • Personal Text
    Got a 'B' in HS Alegbra

November 12, 2008, 08:35:52 AM
Reply #7

Jimmiemac

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 20

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

November 12, 2008, 08:36:10 AM
Reply #8

Saulbadguy

  • Guest
Our BS detection skills should be a bit more refined than this, considering that we are searching for our 4th head coach in 3 years.

November 12, 2008, 08:37:11 AM
Reply #9

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

The fact that you continue to venture over here loudly displays your concern  :ksu:
<---------Click the ball

November 12, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
Reply #10

michigancat

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 23713
  • Personal Text
    You can't be racist and like basketball.
Our BS detection skills should be a bit more refined than this, considering that we are searching for our 4th head coach in 3 years.

My favorite part was the poster was named "catfan".

November 12, 2008, 08:47:11 AM
Reply #11

FROGDADDY

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 89

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

The fact that you continue to venture over here loudly displays your concern  :ksu:

True, kind of why I'm over here as well.  We're all concerned.  Thing is, jimmiemac may come across as less than sane at times, but he's one of the more connected tcu posters around.  You should at least consider that what he's saying is true.  He's right more often than not, way more often.

November 12, 2008, 08:48:35 AM
Reply #12

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
I have a reason to believe otherwise:

All coaches are liars.

Will make BV to Clemson even more heartbreaking if true, though.


best point of this thread so far.  I dreamt about BV last night...won't get into details, but there was a happy ending.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 08:50:53 AM by catzacker »

November 12, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
Reply #13

Confirmed

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 19

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

November 12, 2008, 09:02:56 AM
Reply #14

cireksu

  • Guest
just remember that 95% of people's sources are a buddy at work who has a subscript to gpc.  They hear about it and then repost it on GPC saying "I heard the same thing blah blah blah"

November 12, 2008, 10:16:19 AM
Reply #15

FROGDADDY

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 89

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 

November 12, 2008, 10:24:08 AM
Reply #16

bigboiksu

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 131
  • Personal Text
    True Kstatetriot
MY GOD PEOPLE STOP CITING YOUR SOURCES NO ONE KNOWS READING THIS BOARD WITH ALL THE tcu FANS AND ALL THIS I KNOW GP AND ALL THIS IS BS JUST SIT AND WAIT I AM TIRED OF THIS SPECULATION PEOPLE NEED TO JUST HOLD UP AND WAIT 2 OR 3 WEEKS AND THEN WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE AND tcu FANS STOP SAYING THE SAME SH*T ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW HES NOT LEAVING NO ONE KNOWS SO JUST WAIT. :users:

November 12, 2008, 10:25:20 AM
Reply #17

leawoodcat

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 404

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

Gary was interested in the job 3 years ago and is interested this year. My only caveat is I do not know if last Friday's incident changed his mind in any way.

November 12, 2008, 10:27:42 AM
Reply #18

Confirmed

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 19

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

November 12, 2008, 10:31:27 AM
Reply #19

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

I don't think this ever happened fwiw.  I mean, would love to see some sort of confirmation. 
<---------Click the ball

November 12, 2008, 10:35:43 AM
Reply #20

Bookcat

  • Scout Team Wildcat

  • Offline
  • **

  • 6459
sigh.

its just Mark Jansen f'ing with us.
"You guys want answers that are conversations between John and I. I ain't worried about it. I'm living the dream.... When I start worrying about a contract, I'd be cheating the kids and not doing my job." - Frank Martin

November 12, 2008, 10:36:53 AM
Reply #21

WildcatNkilt

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 735
I have a reason to believe otherwise:

All coaches are liars.

Will make BV to Clemson even more heartbreaking if true, though.


best point of this thread so far.  I dreamt about BV last night...won't get into details, but there was a happy ending.

Money shot huh?  ;)

November 12, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
Reply #22

greasd up deaf guy

  • Guest
Our BS detection skills should be a bit more refined than this, considering that we are searching for our 4th head coach in 3 years.

My favorite part was the poster was named "catfan".
This

November 12, 2008, 10:44:00 AM
Reply #23

FROGDADDY

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 89

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

November 12, 2008, 10:49:17 AM
Reply #24

WildcatNkilt

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 735

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

Wouldn't making a decision that he is staying at tcu be beneficial considering you still have regular season games to play?  That would kill all speculation for both players and fans right away, limiting any distraction in preperation for the rest of your games.

November 12, 2008, 10:56:06 AM
Reply #25

FROGDADDY

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 89

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

Wouldn't making a decision that he is staying at tcu be beneficial considering you still have regular season games to play?  That would kill all speculation for both players and fans right away, limiting any distraction in preperation for the rest of your games.

Yeah it would, it would also make him less money.  If he and his agent play their cards right, GP is looking at a raise in the vicinity of 1 mil a year wherever he ends up.  Telling KSU "no" right now basically puts an end to that unless Tenn comes calling.  Telling KSU "yes" right now gets him less as well.

November 12, 2008, 11:04:52 AM
Reply #26

WildcatNkilt

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 735

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

Wouldn't making a decision that he is staying at tcu be beneficial considering you still have regular season games to play?  That would kill all speculation for both players and fans right away, limiting any distraction in preperation for the rest of your games.

Yeah it would, it would also make him less money.  If he and his agent play their cards right, GP is looking at a raise in the vicinity of 1 mil a year wherever he ends up.  Telling KSU "no" right now basically puts an end to that unless Tenn comes calling.  Telling KSU "yes" right now gets him less as well.

Maybe you're right, but you are all making him sound like an extremely greedy person with nothing but money on his mind.  I'm sure he deserves to get paid well, but whats the difference between 2.5 and 1.5 million?  Either way you are doing great for yourself and your family.  I'd like to think hes not telling tcu that he is staying just to get more money. 

November 12, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
Reply #27

FROGDADDY

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 89

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

Wouldn't making a decision that he is staying at tcu be beneficial considering you still have regular season games to play?  That would kill all speculation for both players and fans right away, limiting any distraction in preperation for the rest of your games.

Yeah it would, it would also make him less money.  If he and his agent play their cards right, GP is looking at a raise in the vicinity of 1 mil a year wherever he ends up.  Telling KSU "no" right now basically puts an end to that unless Tenn comes calling.  Telling KSU "yes" right now gets him less as well.

Maybe you're right, but you are all making him sound like an extremely greedy person with nothing but money on his mind.  I'm sure he deserves to get paid well, but whats the difference between 2.5 and 1.5 million?  Either way you are doing great for yourself and your family.  I'd like to think hes not telling tcu that he is staying just to get more money. 

Aren't we all greedy?  I mean if what you say is true then why wouldn't KSU just offer him the same thing he's making right now?  That should be enough considering he loves Manhattan so much, right?  Heck, not sure what you're making but a million more a year is a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY to me.  Of course, with our new president's tax plan making a million more may actually cost you money but that's an argument for another time.

November 12, 2008, 11:16:21 AM
Reply #28

ksu_FAN

  • Second String Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 11401
Maybe you're right, but you are all making him sound like an extremely greedy person with nothing but money on his mind.  I'm sure he deserves to get paid well, but whats the difference between 2.5 and 1.5 million?  Either way you are doing great for yourself and your family.  I'd like to think hes not telling tcu that he is staying just to get more money. 

Right now GP's probably not thinking about money too much.  But his agent is.  And other things he may want wherever he goes to coach, especially if its K-State.  That's why IMO the agent or someone in the office was one of the sources.  The temporary hit GP might have taken in reputation and with his kids (which are top priorities for most coaches) blows over quickly, but you have a nice negotiating tool now not only for money, but other demands with staff or facilities you might have. 

And don't forget...

Quote from: GP
Obviously, I think everybody wants to go back home at some point in time in their lifetime.

November 12, 2008, 11:18:08 AM
Reply #29

WildcatNkilt

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 735

Interesting considering it's a proven that he wasn't offered the job three years ago.

Three years ago the discussions were a lot more in-depth than the ones this time around (at least so far).  KSU may not have formerly offered but CGP was asked repeatedly about his interest in the position-answer was the same each time.

With all due respect, we never had contact with GP.  We contacted the school concerning to interview GP and GP agreed to meet.  KSU called him the very next day and told him the job was already accepted by Prince.

Secondly, if GP wasn't interested in KSU, he could very easily make a public statement that he is not interested and is staying at tcu.  He won't do it because he knows it is untrue. 

Lastly, don't you think the KSU admins would be spreading the news behind the scenes that GP is out of the question if GP was in fact not intereted?  This is an expectations game and they would have a major PR crisis on their hands if the next coach is not named GP.

I'll buy point #1 because I just don't know.  Points #2 and #3 are flawed becasue of one major omission on your part - MONEY.  If GP makes tcu (or anybody else) think he's interested in the KSU job it ends up meaning more money for him and his staff wherever he ends up.  That's the single biggest reason why coaches rarely ever completely remove their name from consideration for a job. 



I agree, but if you claim to know GP like you do, then you would know that he would not use K-State.  He has far too many friends back here that know him WELL and he wouldn't get everyone's hopes up that he is coming home.  In fact, he has told many of his friends that he is coming back.  Finally, if he wanted to get more money, he would not have publicly said he was not interested in the Tennessee job.

The public stating of no interest in the Tennessee job NEVER HAPPENED.  Statements like that one make the rest of your post meaningless.  And he's not using KSU (his agent might be though).  Gary is simply not going to make a decision while we still have regular season games to play and the fact that your ignorant AD tried to contact him before the Utah game is probably pissing him off almost as much as the incorrect reporting that went on last Friday.  Whatever chance you had of getting GP as your next coach (might have been 100%, might have been 1%, hell if I know) is getting smaller and smaller everytime your AD does something.  Whether it was firing Prince during the season, attempting contact with GP before the Utah game, being part of a false story breaking last Friday, or blaming Prince's firing on the fans......they're all just digging a deeper hole for you guys.

Wouldn't making a decision that he is staying at tcu be beneficial considering you still have regular season games to play?  That would kill all speculation for both players and fans right away, limiting any distraction in preperation for the rest of your games.

Yeah it would, it would also make him less money.  If he and his agent play their cards right, GP is looking at a raise in the vicinity of 1 mil a year wherever he ends up.  Telling KSU "no" right now basically puts an end to that unless Tenn comes calling.  Telling KSU "yes" right now gets him less as well.

Maybe you're right, but you are all making him sound like an extremely greedy person with nothing but money on his mind.  I'm sure he deserves to get paid well, but whats the difference between 2.5 and 1.5 million?  Either way you are doing great for yourself and your family.  I'd like to think hes not telling tcu that he is staying just to get more money. 

Aren't we all greedy?  I mean if what you say is true then why wouldn't KSU just offer him the same thing he's making right now?  That should be enough considering he loves Manhattan so much, right?  Heck, not sure what you're making but a million more a year is a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY to me.  Of course, with our new president's tax plan making a million more may actually cost you money but that's an argument for another time.

All I'm saying is that your arguement was because of the money.  If him wanting more money is why he isn't telling tcu he is staying then he is creating distractions for the team on his own.  So he is either being greedy because he wants more money, or he is considering the HC position at another University.  Either way, not good for tcu and the rest of the regular season.