GP

[greatjhawk]

 

In all seriousness, what are the inside sources truly saying.......

You gonna get him or not?

[sonofdaxjones]

In all seriousness, what are the inside sources truly saying.......

You gonna get him or not?

Some folks know, but they aren't saying.

[greatjhawk]

In all seriousness, what are the inside sources truly saying.......

You gonna get him or not?

Some folks know, but they aren't saying.

And your gut take?  Or not saying?

[Catmatt]

MY GUT TAKE ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQH0IFke0eM

[sonofdaxjones]

Gut Take . . . FUBAR

[BigXIIpowercat]

Pre 11/5: KSU lips = ku boys anus
Post 11/5: KSU lips = KSU boys anus

[greatjhawk]

Gut Take . . . FUBAR

So no love for GPC.com right now?

[michigancat]

Gut Take . . . FUBAR

So no love for GPC.com right now?

seriously?

Read like, any thread here before you ask stupid questions like this.

[cireksu]

Fitz blew the deal.


If he does not come here it is only because of Fitz.

[JR Ewing]

Yes, GP will become HCGP @ KSU.

[K-StateProud]

In all seriousness, what are the inside sources truly saying.......

You gonna get him or not?

        

[K-StateProud]

Yes, GP will become HCGP @ KSU.

Don't Fitz this up. 

[purplepowerman]

Yes, GP will become HCGP @ KSU.

  Watch it, loose lips sink ships.  I believe that the whole Patterson deal is on thin ice because of what Fitz had done to KSU football For me Patterson is my first choice and I believe we still have a chance to get him  For KSU football it's not a matter of getting Patterson, but a matter of losing Patterson, and Fitz might of single handedly done that.

[Bookcat]

Patterson will wring us for money but I still lean towards the idea that we get him.

[bigdeal]

I still believe the Cats will get GP as the coach, it just makes too much sense and all fits too well for it not to come to fruition.  However, there may be a longer delay now.  GP probably doesn't want it to seem like it was in the works (I believe they have some kind of a verbal already...or had that before Fitz spewed it forth), so GP may delay the announcement and any finalizing until into the bowl season, or after their mid-December bowl instead of announcing it at the end of the regular season.  Pretty much every media/quasi-media site seems to have indicated they had heard many rumors the same as what Fitz reported, they just couldn't get any confirmations to run or support the story.  Still seems like the, "where there's smoke, there's fire" type thing. 

[JR Ewing]

Patterson will wring us for money but I still lean towards the idea that we get him.

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[JR Ewing]

I still believe the Cats will get GP as the coach, it just makes too much sense and all fits too well for it not to come to fruition.  However, there may be a longer delay now.  GP probably doesn't want it to seem like it was in the works (I believe they have some kind of a verbal already...or had that before Fitz spewed it forth), so GP may delay the announcement and any finalizing until into the bowl season, or after their mid-December bowl instead of announcing it at the end of the regular season.  Pretty much every media/quasi-media site seems to have indicated they had heard many rumors the same as what Fitz reported, they just couldn't get any confirmations to run or support the story.  Still seems like the, "where there's smoke, there's fire" type thing. 

^^^^

That too.

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

[tmramrod91]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

[CatsNChiefs]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

Gee, never would have guessed.  Research the BIG 12 north before you make yourself out to be even more of a dumbass, if that's possible.

[tmramrod91]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

Gee, never would have guessed.  Research the BIG 12 north before you make yourself out to be even more of a dumbass, if that's possible.

Research what? Truth hurts huh? Confused over the North reference. Do you think you are competitve despite the video game score every team puts on you? GP doesn't think so and used KSU emotions to increase his value. Just like he used Minnesota lat year. Grab a tissue.

[CatsNChiefs]

   Fitting that at a hole like tcu you have to increase your value yourself because association with your employer is worthless.

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

Pretty well. There is little proof that you can sustain good recruiting in Manhattan. Snyder went to a freakin BCS bowl (2003? too lazy to research) and he couln't translate it into better recruiting. The program actually slipped into 

Don't think that kind of stuff goes unnoticed. GP is 48 and isn't ready to come home and die yet. In a couple to three years he may take the chance.

[bigdeal]

Couldn't translate it (2003 Conference Championship) into better recruiting because his asst coaches were the dregs left over after all his really good assts had all gone on to their own gigs.  BTW, their recruiting class was supposed to be a very good offensive line class but I guess Rivals blew that, along with several issues with those kids. 

Look, tcu is a great school but it is not in a BCS conference and is a small, private college ($$$), which can hinder recruiting because of higher academic requirements.  KSU is in the Big 12 north (weaker division) of a very good, well-respected conference.  Patterson's recruiting ties in Tx would be excellent for the KSU job.  He's from KSU, which has excellent ties to the JuCo's in the state, providing another talent base.

Patterson is not going to sit at tcu and wait to see if Fran can rebuild it because Fran wouldn't leave KSU if he got the job and rebuilt it.  Simple truth is, after where Fran has been, he would settle in at KSU if he got the job, and got the job done....and Patterson knows that.  Patterson has been at tcu long enough to know his value probably won't get much higher (unless he has a magnificent returning group of players for next year), and that KSU is a great fit for him.

[The Oracle]

Couldn't translate it (2003 Conference Championship) into better recruiting because his asst coaches were the dregs left over after all his really good assts had all gone on to their own gigs.  BTW, their recruiting class was supposed to be a very good offensive line class but I guess Rivals blew that, along with several issues with those kids. 

Look, tcu is a great school but it is not in a BCS conference and is a small, private college ($$$), which can hinder recruiting because of higher academic requirements.  KSU is in the Big 12 north (weaker division) of a very good, well-respected conference.  Patterson's recruiting ties in Tx would be excellent for the KSU job.  He's from KSU, which has excellent ties to the JuCo's in the state, providing another talent base.

Patterson is not going to sit at tcu and wait to see if Fran can rebuild it because Fran wouldn't leave KSU if he got the job and rebuilt it.  Simple truth is, after where Fran has been, he would settle in at KSU if he got the job, and got the job done....and Patterson knows that.  Patterson has been at tcu long enough to know his value probably won't get much higher (unless he has a magnificent returning group of players for next year), and that KSU is a great fit for him.

Agree with everthing except it won't be KSU this year. He played his cards this way for a reason. He can't turn around and now go to KSU. Plus I didn't mention the fact he has a 7 figure annuity if he stays through the 2010 season. Also, nothing seems to be hindering this year's class.

[tmramrod91]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

Pretty well. There is little proof that you can sustain good recruiting in Manhattan. Snyder went to a freakin BCS bowl (2003? too lazy to research) and he couln't translate it into better recruiting. The program actually slipped into 

Don't think that kind of stuff goes unnoticed. GP is 48 and isn't ready to come home and die yet. In a couple to three years he may take the chance.

Serial?  Ever heard of a little something called the DoD (decade of dominance).  All it takes is a few competent assistants, which snyder lacked after '03 and was too loyal to them to get rid of them.  GP has a good staff that he'll bring with him and they can obviously recruit.  Also...I highly doubt if you know GP so well you'd be on some trash message board like this spouting off inside info.

   

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

Pretty well. There is little proof that you can sustain good recruiting in Manhattan. Snyder went to a freakin BCS bowl (2003? too lazy to research) and he couln't translate it into better recruiting. The program actually slipped into 

Don't think that kind of stuff goes unnoticed. GP is 48 and isn't ready to come home and die yet. In a couple to three years he may take the chance.

Serial?  Ever heard of a little something called the DoD (decade of dominance).  All it takes is a few competent assistants, which snyder lacked after '03 and was too loyal to them to get rid of them.  GP has a good staff that he'll bring with him and they can obviously recruit.  Also...I highly doubt if you know GP so well you'd be on some trash message board like this spouting off inside info.

   

I enjoyed that decade, as a KSU fan, as I posted previously. I would never route against the Frogs but I route KSU evertime they take the field, especially in Conference. I loved the '03 Conf Championship game and laughed my a$$ off the last two years you beat the Horns

I know him well enough to know it ain't this year for you guys. My information is stronger than PowderCats!

I'm on this board because you guys invaded ours and I thought you guys were funny as hell. Thought I would visit and give you some scoop at the same time.

[yoga-lika_abana]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

Pretty well. There is little proof that you can sustain good recruiting in Manhattan. Snyder went to a freakin BCS bowl (2003? too lazy to research) and he couln't translate it into better recruiting. The program actually slipped into 

Don't think that kind of stuff goes unnoticed. GP is 48 and isn't ready to come home and die yet. In a couple to three years he may take the chance.

Serial?  Ever heard of a little something called the DoD (decade of dominance).  All it takes is a few competent assistants, which snyder lacked after '03 and was too loyal to them to get rid of them.  GP has a good staff that he'll bring with him and they can obviously recruit.  Also...I highly doubt if you know GP so well you'd be on some trash message board like this spouting off inside info.

   

I'm on this board because you guys invaded ours and I thought you guys were funny as hell. Thought I would visit and give you some scoop at the same time.

Thanks for the info Rick.