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September 13, 2006, 08:11:13 AM
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I'm thinking around 6 ppg - all off of spectacular, acrobatic dunks.

September 13, 2006, 08:13:14 AM
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He'll probably average around 11 or 12.  He'll have some games where he goes off for 25 and some where he's held to 5 or 6. 

September 13, 2006, 08:16:00 AM
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September 13, 2006, 08:17:52 AM
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He'll probably average around 11 or 12.  He'll have some games where he goes off for 25 and some where he's held to 5 or 6. 

I don't think so.  He can't really shoot, and will honestly have to adjust.  Not to say this isn't the greatest thing to happen to KSU basketball since...well, Michael Beasley committed, but I don't think he will make a huge difference other than creating a crap-ton of excitement.

September 13, 2006, 08:19:50 AM
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I'm thinking around 6 ppg - all off of spectacular, acrobatic dunks.

6 ppg? Are you insane?

Easily 10 ppg.
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September 13, 2006, 08:24:17 AM
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dude is a 5 star recruit, and has dominated the hs level vs. the best players

he'll be at 12-15 ppg

« Last Edit: September 13, 2006, 10:06:51 AM by ksuno1stunner »

September 13, 2006, 08:25:18 AM
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I'm thinking around 6 ppg - all off of spectacular, acrobatic dunks.

6 ppg? Are you insane?

Easily 10 ppg.

Don't think so:

1)  Will his conditioning be up to snuff?
2)  Will he be able to handle Huggs' defense right away?
3)  Huggins doesn't play a lot of frosh big minutes.

September 13, 2006, 08:27:06 AM
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With Walker I'm thinking of an all-star version of Belvis Noland.  I'll side with Rusty and say something like 7.8 PPG is more realistic. 

September 13, 2006, 08:30:04 AM
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Now that I've given you guys a little bit of background information about these two, I'll tell you what the workout was like. The intensity of the workout was unparalleled. Walker and Mayo went for approximately an hour and a half non-stop and at full speed through a series of NBA drills. These drills included reading screens, full court dribbling drills leading right into jump shots, mid range jump shots, and attacking the basket. Just about the only knock on Bill Walker coming into this year was that he wasn't quite the strongest ball handlerboy, has that changed. Bill was extremely fluid going up and down the floor at full speed in the ball handling drills. He was able to change directions and speeds very easily while keeping his head up and the ball low and tight. Bill began to shoot NBA three pointers off of these drills with absolute ease. At one time, we counted that Bill made 7 straight NBA three pointers in a row after dribbling full speed up the floor with a defender on him. Walker then showed off his midrange game, in which he has an absolutely astonishing lift on his shot, making it impossible for any defender to block. Walker then started attacking the basket, where he used his giant strides to get to the basket in the blink of an eye. He finished every one of his takes to the rim with an explosive dunk, where he was at least a foot above the rim on each and every one of them.

O.J. was going through the workout even though he had sprained his ankle in the high school state championship just two days earlier, showing his great toughness. In the full court ball handling drills that lead to NBA three pointers, O.J. handled the ball as if it was on a string and showed unlimited range. At one point, we counted him hitting 9 straight three pointers from NBA range (following which he missed one and then proceeded to hit 5 more in a row). Mayo did not have the usual (great) lift on his shot due to the ankle injury, but his mechanics were very impressive. Like Walker, O.J. showed a great midrange jumper with very quick release and good form. When it came to exploding to the basket, he was a bit limited because of the bum ankle, but he was still easily dunking the ball in all of the drills. We would see in a few minutes that even with a bad ankle, Mayo could still leap higher then the majority of college players.

At the conclusion of their workout, O.J. and Bill decided to have an impromptu dunk contest. Bill started off getting loose by easily touching the top of the square on the backboard. He then started off by throwing the ball off of the backboard and doing a reverse windmill dunk. This dunk would have easily gotten a perfect score in the NBA dunk contest. He then continued with a flurry of windmill, 360, and between the legs dunks that would have definitely given Josh Smith a run for his money. As for O.J., even though he was suffering from an ankle injury, he was still able to throw the ball off of the shot clock and dunk it (a la Gerald Green in the 2005 McDonald's dunk contest). He followed that with a flurry of windmill dunks and dunked 2 balls at the same time, reminiscent of the dunk Amir Johnson did in the McDonald's dunk contest.

While I had seen these two play before in person a few times and was fully aware of their talents, I had never seen anything like this in my life. These two looked like pro prospects, and they were only sophomores in high school. Both I and Prerak Shah (the other staff member in attendance) agreed that Mayo and Walker were more impressive than ANY of the players playing in the Roundball Classic. Only Gerald Green even came close. This should tell you how immensely talented these two sophomores are. Whether they are able to come out in the 2007 NBA draft right out of high school, or if they have to go to college for two years, you will hear the names of O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker very, very early on draft night.

September 13, 2006, 08:33:33 AM
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Now that I've given you guys a little bit of background information about these two, I'll tell you what the workout was like. The intensity of the workout was unparalleled. Walker and Mayo went for approximately an hour and a half non-stop and at full speed through a series of NBA drills. These drills included reading screens, full court dribbling drills leading right into jump shots, mid range jump shots, and attacking the basket. Just about the only knock on Bill Walker coming into this year was that he wasn't quite the strongest ball handlerboy, has that changed. Bill was extremely fluid going up and down the floor at full speed in the ball handling drills. He was able to change directions and speeds very easily while keeping his head up and the ball low and tight. Bill began to shoot NBA three pointers off of these drills with absolute ease. At one time, we counted that Bill made 7 straight NBA three pointers in a row after dribbling full speed up the floor with a defender on him. Walker then showed off his midrange game, in which he has an absolutely astonishing lift on his shot, making it impossible for any defender to block. Walker then started attacking the basket, where he used his giant strides to get to the basket in the blink of an eye. He finished every one of his takes to the rim with an explosive dunk, where he was at least a foot above the rim on each and every one of them.

O.J. was going through the workout even though he had sprained his ankle in the high school state championship just two days earlier, showing his great toughness. In the full court ball handling drills that lead to NBA three pointers, O.J. handled the ball as if it was on a string and showed unlimited range. At one point, we counted him hitting 9 straight three pointers from NBA range (following which he missed one and then proceeded to hit 5 more in a row). Mayo did not have the usual (great) lift on his shot due to the ankle injury, but his mechanics were very impressive. Like Walker, O.J. showed a great midrange jumper with very quick release and good form. When it came to exploding to the basket, he was a bit limited because of the bum ankle, but he was still easily dunking the ball in all of the drills. We would see in a few minutes that even with a bad ankle, Mayo could still leap higher then the majority of college players.

At the conclusion of their workout, O.J. and Bill decided to have an impromptu dunk contest. Bill started off getting loose by easily touching the top of the square on the backboard. He then started off by throwing the ball off of the backboard and doing a reverse windmill dunk. This dunk would have easily gotten a perfect score in the NBA dunk contest. He then continued with a flurry of windmill, 360, and between the legs dunks that would have definitely given Josh Smith a run for his money. As for O.J., even though he was suffering from an ankle injury, he was still able to throw the ball off of the shot clock and dunk it (a la Gerald Green in the 2005 McDonald's dunk contest). He followed that with a flurry of windmill dunks and dunked 2 balls at the same time, reminiscent of the dunk Amir Johnson did in the McDonald's dunk contest.

While I had seen these two play before in person a few times and was fully aware of their talents, I had never seen anything like this in my life. These two looked like pro prospects, and they were only sophomores in high school. Both I and Prerak Shah (the other staff member in attendance) agreed that Mayo and Walker were more impressive than ANY of the players playing in the Roundball Classic. Only Gerald Green even came close. This should tell you how immensely talented these two sophomores are. Whether they are able to come out in the 2007 NBA draft right out of high school, or if they have to go to college for two years, you will hear the names of O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker very, very early on draft night.


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I change my prediction to 32.7 ppg.

September 13, 2006, 08:50:19 AM
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I will say 15 ppg to start, and then as he becomes more comfortable, who knows

September 13, 2006, 09:01:20 AM
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I think its hard to say.  In this past year's freshmen class, the 2 players ranked highest in the final RSCI that seem to be most similar to Walker were LSU's Tasmin Mitchell and NC's Danny Green.  They averaged 11.4 and 7.5 respectively.  I would think that if Walker does end up at K-State he'll be in that range.

September 13, 2006, 09:06:12 AM
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September 13, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
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September 13, 2006, 10:32:54 AM
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No way he averages double digits. First of all, he will have no conditioning or anything of that sort to get prepared, he is just going to be thrown in the deep water right away with B12 play starting. Second off, he plays SF, which is a posotion that is already stacked, so he wont even be starting, especially with Huggs as the coach. Rarely does he let frosh play big minutes, especially when he has upperclassmen like Martin,Wright, and Hoskins already at the position. Third, he is still fairly raw, hes a tremendous athlete, but he still needs work on his defense, shooting and ball handling. I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot and may even play down low some with his great athletic ability. He grabbed 27 rebounds in a game last year for NCH, so he can play down low. I say around 5 to 7 points, with him finsihing strong towards the end once he gets the hang of things.
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September 13, 2006, 10:48:25 AM
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No way he averages double digits. First of all, he will have no conditioning or anything of that sort to get prepared, he is just going to be thrown in the deep water right away with B12 play starting. Second off, he plays SF, which is a posotion that is already stacked, so he wont even be starting, especially with Huggs as the coach. Rarely does he let frosh play big minutes, especially when he has upperclassmen like Martin,Wright, and Hoskins already at the position. Third, he is still fairly raw, hes a tremendous athlete, but he still needs work on his defense, shooting and ball handling. I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot and may even play down low some with his great athletic ability. He grabbed 27 rebounds in a game last year for NCH, so he can play down low. I say around 5 to 7 points, with him finsihing strong towards the end once he gets the hang of things.
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September 13, 2006, 03:58:04 PM
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I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot

I think you're right.  He sounds like he was cast from the Mitch Richmond mold.

September 14, 2006, 02:30:10 AM
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I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot

I think you're right.  He sounds like he was cast from the Mitch Richmond mold.

how nice it will be to have a player of his caliber currently on the team when we raise his jersey this season.

September 14, 2006, 06:44:41 AM
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I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot

I think you're right.  He sounds like he was cast from the Mitch Richmond mold.

how nice it will be to have a player of his caliber currently on the team when we raise his jersey this season.

why wait until the season?

October 25, 2006, 08:58:01 PM
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October 25, 2006, 09:33:06 PM
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He'll probably be between 8-12 ppg, which is all we'll need with Cartier, Hoskins, Young, and Lance at the helm.

October 25, 2006, 09:40:03 PM
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10.

Real solid.

Couple big games.

October 25, 2006, 10:03:41 PM
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I think he'll play alot at the 2G spot

I think you're right.  He sounds like he was cast from the Mitch Richmond mold.

I have to disagree with the Mitch Richmond comparison. I don't see the style's of Richmond and Walker being that close. Mitch would but his back to defender and power in to about 15' and then hit a fade away jumper or hit three pointers like crazy. Walker seems to attack facing the defender and then blow by him and get to within 15' and shoot a jumper or go in for a mega dunk. I just don't see their styles as the same.
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October 25, 2006, 10:08:30 PM
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it might take a few games for him to get used to College basketball, rember this guy is supost to be a high school senior

October 25, 2006, 10:58:17 PM
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To envision how Walker may play just think of Dwayne Wade in his first year at Marquette since these two are very close in size, speed, athleticism, and skills.  I don’t know about you but I could live with a player like that...

October 25, 2006, 11:38:31 PM
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To envision how Walker may play just think of Dwayne Wade in his first year at Marquette since these two are very close in size, speed, athleticism, and skills.  I don’t know about you but I could live with a player like that...

that's exactly who i think walker's game resembles.  they both have inconsistent jumpers but get to the hole with power

October 25, 2006, 11:39:18 PM
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October 26, 2006, 05:42:55 PM
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Walker Starts season with 6ppg and ncaa tourney 12-15ppg. Bring on the Shockes!!!  :ksu: :ksu: :dancin: :dancin: :woohoo: :woohoo:

October 26, 2006, 10:28:36 PM
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I think 8-12 is a fair assesment, I think he will come off the bench barring injuries but its great to have some real quality depth