If ISU kicks the extra point

[Saulbadguy]

We lose in overtime.  It's that simple.  We were not the better football team out there tonight.

[Fausto]

Better teams are determined, ultimately, by the score.

1-0

[Saulbadguy]

Not this time. 

[Racquetball_Ninja]

I agree with Saul, they may not be the better team the next 10 out of 10 meetings but tonight they were.  Thank goodness they didn't kick it.  I just couldn't get over the fact that without a HUGE special teams effort we're not even in the f'ing game.  Not good...

[ds43fan]

we better start Patton by Marshal, my God the line looked HORRIBLE i had a couple friends in high school who were on the sidlines for today's game and i called them more than once to tell them to suit up

[fatty fat fat]

we better start Patton by Marshal, my God the line looked HORRIBLE i had a couple friends in high school who were on the sidlines for today's game and i called them more than once to tell them to suit up

i agree, alsup should not see the field again

[ds43fan]

alsup shouldn't see the bench again unless its from the stands, he shouldn't even be an option after today, Johnson is close to that status as well

[swish1]

MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP) -- Kansas State scored two special teams touchdowns and stopped Illinois State quarterback Luke Drone on a 2-point conversion in the final minutes to preserve a 24-23 victory Saturday night in the head coaching debut of Ron Prince.

Trailing 17-16 with 8:25 to go, Kansas State's Marcus Perry popped the ball out of the arms of Illinois State's Jason Horton and into the hands of cornerback Byron Garvin, who sprinted 9 yards into the end zone to give the Wildcats the lead.

Dylan Meier hit tight end Rashaad Norwood for the 2-point conversion to make it 24-17, but the Redbirds came right back, just as they had all game.

Driving 47 yards in just over 5 minutes, Drone hit a wide open Pierre Jackson in the corner of the end zone to pull within 24-23 with 3:02 to go.

But instead of kicking the extra point, coach Denver Johnson elected to go for 2 and the win. Drone dropped back to pass but was quickly swallowed by the Kansas State defensive line to preserve the victory.
 
Meier threw for 163 yards and Jeff Snodgrass had three field goals for the Wildcats (1-0), who didn't score a touchdown on offense and were out-gained 346 to 207.

Drone finished with 253 yards passing and three touchdowns, including a 3-yard fade pass to Laurent Robinson that gave the Division I-AA Redbirds (0-1) a 17-13 lead with 12:35 to go in the game.

Robinson finished with nine catches for 77 yards, and his 4-yard TD grab early in the second half gave him the school record with 23 career touchdown catches.

The stadium was officially renamed in honor of former Kansas State coach Bill Snyder in a ceremony before the game. But there was little for the Wildcats to celebrate after that.

Meier, who beat out heralded freshman Josh Freeman for the starting job, threw into double-coverage on the game's opening play and was intercepted by Illinois State safety Tom Nelson -- one of two he had in the first half.

The Redbirds then marched 53 yards in 11 plays, setting up Kevin Mazur's 35-yard field goal for a 3-0 lead.

Kansas State didn't manage a first down until late in the first quarter and gained only 23 yards rushing in a sloppy first half.

The Wildcats' first sustained drive was derailed by Yamon Figurs' holding penalty inside the Illinois State 20. A few minutes later, Snodgrass pulled a 38-yard field goal attempt wide left.

Kansas State didn't score until Snodgrass hit a 52-yard field goal with 4:54 to go before halftime, which capped a 13-play, 59-yard drive.

Illinois State appeared headed for halftime tied at 3-3 when Bobby Kelsey out-punted his coverage. The speedy Figurs managed to turn the corner in front of the Kansas State bench and raced 81 yards for a touchdown and a 10-3 halftime lead.

your a &@#%ing pu$$y.

[fatty fat fat]

your a &@#%ing pu$$y.

ignore

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

your a &@#%ing pu$$y.

Blame the guy that wrote the article.

I'm just the messenger.

[kougar24]

I don't see how you can rag on Johson yet. He didn't f*ck up, and hardly got any carries. My guess is he doesn't have the whole playbook down yet.

[ds43fan]

ill give Johnson another chance..alsup has had 6 years of college ball he should be better than this

[kougar24]

I agree on Alsup. He is not the answer, and never has been.

[swish1]

your a &@#%ing pu$$y.

Blame the guy that wrote the article.

I'm just the messenger.

you are the one who took the time out of your obviously hectic schedule to highlight all of kstates obvious weaknesses already mentioned in a news article

that said.  we blow balls.  and alsup is not good, never has been, never will be.  lets see johnson, and patton play b/c unless clayton is dramatically improved he sucks too.

[Racquetball_Ninja]

Goldie,

Your existence on this board is pathetic.  Just admit your infatuation/addiction to Kansas State Football and people might just accept you on the other hand they might just 

[Andy]

We lose in overtime.  It's that simple.  We were not the better football team out there tonight.

getting back to the topic...i dont know what that coach was thinking...was he overconfident?  everything up to that point favored the tie...esp with 3 min left and 2 timeouts.  and why not throw another fade for the 2pt conversion?  man i'll take it though...overtime would have been a disaster.  despite getting badly outplayed i dont think we were badly outcoached....well during the game i mean.   

[sonofdaxjones]

Coach Parrish and the Kids caught a big time break with the 2 pt try decision.

Bring on Miami!!