You people amaze me....

[steve dave]

Ronnie was hired AFTER Mario signed.  Jeez.  Think about it.  Mario signes with ku, then Ronnie is sad because their family lives way out in Alaska and won't ever get to see is son play, so Self (classy gentleman) gives him a little job so he can live in KS and attend every game.  Simple and fair.

Plus, it can be used as the reason he left as well.  This spin would have been included in the initial statements when announcing his resignation imo.  Will look foolish trying to apply it to the situation now.

[treysolid]

Ronnie was hired AFTER Mario signed.  Jeez.  Think about it.  Mario signes with ku, then Ronnie is sad because their family lives way out in Alaska and won't ever get to see is son play, so Self (classy gentleman) gives him a little job so he can live in KS and attend every game.  Simple and fair.

you know that ronnie and self could've had a verbal agreement as to what was going to happen before mario was allowed to sign anything, right?  don't be naive.

[Babytears]

Ronnie was hired AFTER Mario signed.  Jeez.  Think about it.  Mario signes with ku, then Ronnie is sad because their family lives way out in Alaska and won't ever get to see is son play, so Self (classy gentleman) gives him a little job so he can live in KS and attend every game.  Simple and fair.

Plus, it can be used as the reason he left as well.  This spin would have been included in the initial statements when announcing his resignation imo.  Will look foolish trying to apply it to the situation now.

It looked kinda foolish in my brain before I typed it.  That's kinda why I typed it.

[Bennettisgod]

Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.

How about Frank at KSU? Both he and Ronnie were high school coaches before landing jobs KSU and ku.

[sonofdaxjones]

D1 experience prior to taking jobs at Kansas Regents Institutions:

Dalonte Hill:  8 years

Ronnie Chalmers:  None

D1 coaching/administrative experience prior to taking jobs at Kansas Regents Institutions:

Dalonte Hill:  4 years


Ronnie Chalmers:  None

[steve dave]

Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.

How about Frank at KSU? Both he and Ronnie were high school coaches before landing jobs KSU and ku.

LOL, WTF?  Frank was a college assistant for 7 years before taking the KSU head job.

[Babytears]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

[sonofdaxjones]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

If K-State was still finishing in 10th place in the Big 12 would you care?? 

[steve dave]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

You could say the same to ku fans.  Or any fans of any team within the same state (or conference).  We prolly wouldn't be bitter rivals with TX if they were terrible.

[sonofdaxjones]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

You could say the same to ku fans.  Or any fans of any team within the same state (or conference).  We prolly wouldn't be bitter rivals with TX if they were terrible.

QFT

[Babytears]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

If K-State was still finishing in 10th place in the Big 12 would you care?? 

You aren't?  When did this happen?  (I don't really follow)

[sonofdaxjones]

bt does fatty charge you rights fees??

[treysolid]

Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.

How about Frank at KSU? Both he and Ronnie were high school coaches before landing jobs KSU and ku.

LOL, WTF?  Frank was a college assistant for 7 years before taking the KSU head job.

honestly, why don't ku fans understand this?  both frank and dalonte were assistant coaches at colleges (northeastern, cinci, charlotte) before coming to KSU.  want to talk about high school coaches getting hired by universities?  fine, then let's talk about Self hiring Wayne McClain out of Peoria Manual so that he could get his hands on Sergio McClain, Marcus Griffin and Frankie Williams.    

[Babytears]

bt does fatty charge you rights fees??

What?  If he is, I haven't been paying.  Explain yourself.

[ew2x4]

To end all this fatty all I need is for you to answer one question. Ready? Would Beasley of went to KSU without Hill? Im waiting!

I don't think you understand how recruiting works. If Hill (or main recruiter) wasn't here, we wouldn't be getting nearly anyone we have gotten. WTF are you arguing, anyways?

[Bennettisgod]

This is all so amusing. If Ronnie was actually a coach for ku, then we might have something to debate. He was more than qualified to be the Director of Basketball Operations. Graduate degree, years in the Air Force and a successful high school coach. Martin and Hill weren't oozing with college coaching experience when they arrived at KSU. Hill was hired because he was the CEO, Chairman, Big Daddy, and Pimp of the DC Assault. No different than Ronnie getting hired, except his role was limited as a non-coach. Hill gets paid more than many head coaches, even though he doesn't have to do much more than give his DC Assault buddies a call and try to control his drinking.

When the NCAA makes it illegal for parents (Ronnie, Ed) and father-figures/mentors (Hill, Huggins) of recruits to accept jobs at these schools, let me know. Until then, I hope we sign up Carl Henry and Lance Stephenson, Sr for meaningless jobs at ku.

[sonofdaxjones]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

[steve dave]

How about Frank at KSU? Both he and Ronnie were high school coaches before landing jobs KSU and ku.

Pretty embarrassing self pwn d00d.  I can see why you reversed field in a hurry.

[pissclams]

This is all so amusing. If Ronnie was actually a coach for ku, then we might have something to debate. He was more than qualified to be the Director of Basketball Operations. Graduate degree, years in the Air Force and a successful high school coach. Martin and Hill weren't oozing with college coaching experience when they arrived at KSU. Hill was hired because he was the CEO, Chairman, Big Daddy, and Pimp of the DC Assault. No different than Ronnie getting hired, except his role was limited as a non-coach. Hill gets paid more than many head coaches, even though he doesn't have to do much more than give his DC Assault buddies a call and try to control his drinking.

When the NCAA makes it illegal for parents (Ronnie, Ed) and father-figures/mentors (Hill, Huggins) of recruits to accept jobs at these schools, let me know. Until then, I hope we sign up Carl Henry and Lance Stephenson, Sr for meaningless jobs at ku.

Da Nile is a river in Santa Monica my friend, you need to check it out sime thime.

[leawoodcat]

Ronnie was hired AFTER Mario signed.  Jeez.  Think about it.  Mario signes with ku, then Ronnie is sad because their family lives way out in Alaska and won't ever get to see is son play, so Self (classy gentleman) gives him a little job so he can live in KS and attend every game.  Simple and fair.

LOL Very clever that Bill Self was smart enough to hire daddy AFTER Mario signed. I'm sure that has everybody fooled.

If you were one of the 100 applicants who had better qualifications than Ronnie, would YOU think it was fair?

[treysolid]

Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.

How about Frank at KSU? Both he and Ronnie were high school coaches before landing jobs KSU and ku.

LOL, WTF?  Frank was a college assistant for 7 years before taking the KSU head job.

honestly, why don't ku fans understand this?  both frank and dalonte were assistant coaches at colleges (northeastern, cinci, charlotte) before coming to KSU.  want to talk about high school coaches getting hired by universities?  fine, then let's talk about Self hiring Wayne McClain out of Peoria Manual so that he could get his hands on Sergio McClain, Marcus Griffin and Frankie Williams.    

i'm honestly still waiting for a resident ku fan to address this ^.  oh, and try not to sound like a dumbass in the process, please. 

[EliteHawk]

If we sucked, would you guyz care so much?  It's getting kinda weird imo.

If K-State was still finishing in 10th place in the Big 12 would you care?? 

21-12 and an 11-seed in the tournament is embarrassing.  Would have been ku's worst season since we missed the tourney in '89 because of probation.  Your football team is also horrible.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yes, because we all know in the real world there are never, ever, ever any pre-arranged agreements.   

[EliteHawk]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

[sonofdaxjones]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

I never denied that dumbass . . . what we are laughing at is the squawktard logic which continuously tries to claim the guy had no credentials whatsoever to be a Division 1 assistant coach.    Reality says he had more than enough legitimate credentials to be a D1 assistant coach with or without the recruiting ties.

This isn't that hard.

Quit being a dumbass Ben.

[steve dave]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used IS USING him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

Dalonte is the most underpaid coach in the biz 

[EliteHawk]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

I never denied that dumbass . . . what we are laughing at is the squawktard logic which continuously tries to claim the guy had no credentials whatsoever to be a Division 1 assistant coach.    Reality says he had more than enough legitimate credentials to be a D1 assistant coach with or without the recruiting ties.

This isn't that hard.

Quit being a dumbass Ben.

Always with the      


Why wasn't Ronnie Chalmers qualified to be Director of Basketball Operations, 'Pad?  Perhaps you could enlighten all of us.

[sonofdaxjones]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

I never denied that dumbass . . . what we are laughing at is the squawktard logic which continuously tries to claim the guy had no credentials whatsoever to be a Division 1 assistant coach.    Reality says he had more than enough legitimate credentials to be a D1 assistant coach with or without the recruiting ties.

This isn't that hard.

Quit being a dumbass Ben.

Always with the      


Why wasn't Ronnie Chalmers qualified to be Director of Basketball Operations, 'Pad?  Perhaps you could enlighten all of us.

There were already hundreds of Directors/Assistant AD's/Associate AD's of Basketball Operations at other schools, of whom many would've been very interested in the "opening" at ku . . . ku just happened to hire the dad of a top recruit who had no experience whatsoever as an administrator at the D1 level, or at any collegiate level for that matter.

You figure it out Ben. 

[treysolid]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

I never denied that dumbass . . . what we are laughing at is the squawktard logic which continuously tries to claim the guy had no credentials whatsoever to be a Division 1 assistant coach.    Reality says he had more than enough legitimate credentials to be a D1 assistant coach with or without the recruiting ties.

This isn't that hard.

Quit being a dumbass Ben.

Always with the      


Why wasn't Ronnie Chalmers qualified to be Director of Basketball Operations, 'Pad?  Perhaps you could enlighten all of us.

who says he wasn't?  all you have to do to be DOBO is type memos and schedule plane trips.  i think ronnie could handle that.  we're just attacking the double standard that exists because it's OK for ku to hire adults with ties to recruits but when KSU does it, it's shady and it's a sham and the NCAA should look into it and yada yada yada.  get the point?

[EliteHawk]

Hill also had 8 years of D1 playing and coaching experience prior to coming to K-State.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

But we keep getting these "war and peace" style post from squawkville trying to "explain" it all to us.   

...and that doesn't change the fact that K-State used him in order to sign the entire DC Assault AAU team.  Take off the blinders, 'Pad.

I never denied that dumbass . . . what we are laughing at is the squawktard logic which continuously tries to claim the guy had no credentials whatsoever to be a Division 1 assistant coach.    Reality says he had more than enough legitimate credentials to be a D1 assistant coach with or without the recruiting ties.

This isn't that hard.

Quit being a dumbass Ben.

Always with the      


Why wasn't Ronnie Chalmers qualified to be Director of Basketball Operations, 'Pad?  Perhaps you could enlighten all of us.

There were already hundreds of Directors/Assistant AD's/Associate AD's of Basketball Operations at other schools, of whom many would've been very interested in the "opening" at ku . . . ku just happened to hire the dad of a top recruit who had no experience whatsoever as an administrator at the D1 level, or at any collegiate level for that matter.

You figure it out Ben. 

Danny Manning had no experience as an administrator at the D1 level when he was hired as DOBO.  Try again, 'Pad.