But lets be honest ....

[WILDCAT NATION]

I just hope Josh Freeman does not = Marc Dunn.

[chum1]

it seems like Evridge thought he would have a chance to compete right up until the first fall practice. Why would a coach do this?

You do it so he doesn't transfer earlier.  If Prince gets him to stick around until fall practice begins, there isn't much of a chance he'll transfer.  It didn't pay off this time. 

Freeman will get many more chances than Dunn ever got.

[ds43fan]

I just hope Josh Freeman does not = Marc Dunn.

its ok Marc Dunn was white

[MrWhite]

My point is that NO ONE that transferred got to compete.  I don't give a crap about Evridge, Webb, or Lopina in particular...I think they all got screwed, and screwing those players will hurt the football team.

As for setting your two-deep in stone immediately after spring practice - 5 months of weights and conditioning can change a player dramatically on the field.  Also, as Nation mentioned, it seems like Evridge thought he would have a chance to compete right up until the first fall practice.  Why would a coach do this?

Who said he set the two deep in stone after Spring practices?  For all you know it was decided last Friday, before the first open practice.

And what does it say that it's obvious that Dylan Meier got to compete, and is indeed competing?  And the fact that Evridge got to start the Spring Game pretty much proves that he got to compete.

Any word on what Josh Freeman did in those 5 months of conditioning?  I heard he put on 25 pounds of muscle, and is now pushing 250.

What do you have to show that Evridge didn't get a chance to compete right until the first fall practice?!??

You know he was competing at the end of Spring.

What a bunch of drama queers.

I mean queens.

[michigancat]

Who said he set the two deep in stone after Spring practices?  For all you know it was decided last Friday, before the first open practice.

What's the difference?  They made up their minds without seeing any additional practice either way.  Both options are equally foolish.

And what does it say that it's obvious that Dylan Meier got to compete, and is indeed competing? 

Ron recognizes the value of having more than one QB on the roster?

And the fact that Evridge got to start the Spring Game pretty much proves that he got to compete.

What about Webb and Lopina?  Again, I think it's extremely foolish to annoint a starter based on spring practice.

What do you have to show that Evridge didn't get a chance to compete right until the first fall practice?!??

You know he was competing at the end of Spring.

Huh?  He might have thought he was competing, but he really wasn't.  Once fall practice opened, it finally became obvious to him that he had no shot.

What a bunch of drama queers.

I mean queens.

Nice.

[ScubaSteve]

It sounds like he was pissed that he was told he would be given a chance to win the job...spent all summer working out..and had magically been made the scout team QB before one snap of fall practice...then got like 1 or 2 snaps in said first practice.

I'd be pissed off too..no one with integrity lies to a player like that...

Unless Freeman is unbelievably good, he should be the Scout Team QB this year as a RS Freshman...Sorry, but Ronnie can't afford a losing season...so Josh better be all he's cracked up to be and the OL better be decent...

We'll see how "scary smart" this decision looks in a few months.

Come on.  Did you not see the WIBW interview? By the way, that interview was on FRIDAY.  I'm pretty sure the first practice was on Saturday. Everidge was leaving before practice even started.

[ScubaSteve]

AE, what a pussy.

Now don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did for KSU by and large and I hate to seem him go.

But what's with this ... "Oh, oh, I am not getting exactly what I want right now so I am just going to transfer" crap??

A little note to AE, if you happen to end up at a BCS school, or pretty much any D1 school, you aren't gonna walk in and just be handed the job.  And if he's leaving because he thought Freeman was "promised" something, which may very well be the case ... why not stick around for the year and at least see how it plays out??

What happened to the "team" concept.

 

I'm with you dax.  AE is a quitter.  Screw him!

[MrWhite]

Did they see what the players did over the summer?  Yup.

How long did Evridge work to move up the depth chart?  4 days.

Dylan Meier got a chance to compete and so did Evridge, that's why they were the starters for the Spring Game.  One stayed on the two deep the other didn't.  One is still on the team, the other took his ball and went home.

Are you suggesting that all five QBs should have received equal reps for the first couple weeks of fall practice?  Do you honestly think Snyder, or any other sane coach, does that?  Webb lost chances to compete by skipping spring practices, when he returned, he participated and competed.  Lopina competed as well, but he and Webb bailed BEFORE fall practices.

So you're saying that Evridge wasn't really competing during Spring practices?  He got more reps than anyone else.

[ScubaSteve]

It sounds like he was pissed that he was told he would be given a chance to win the job...spent all summer working out..and had magically been made the scout team QB before one snap of fall practice...then got like 1 or 2 snaps in said first practice.

I'd be pissed off too..no one with integrity lies to a player like that...

I'd say Wildcat Nation has some pretty accurate info.

Man, if I were you I'd run down a couple of sources and print that info.  Talk about selling papers.

[michigancat]

Did they see what the players did over the summer?  Yup.

How long did Evridge work to move up the depth chart?  4 days.

Dylan Meier got a chance to compete and so did Evridge, that's why they were the starters for the Spring Game.  One stayed on the two deep the other didn't.  One is still on the team, the other took his ball and went home.

Are you suggesting that all five QBs should have received equal reps for the first couple weeks of fall practice?  Do you honestly think Snyder, or any other sane coach, does that?  Webb lost chances to compete by skipping spring practices, when he returned, he participated and competed.  Lopina competed as well, but he and Webb bailed BEFORE fall practices.

So you're saying that Evridge wasn't really competing during Spring practices?  He got more reps than anyone else.

Here's what it comes down to:

Based on information printed in the media, I think Evridge was misled and mistreated.

Based on speculation and rumors, you think Evridge isn't good enough to play for Kansas State.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Tim, we know you're excited about the hire that was made while you reside over the department.

It's ok that he has only 2 QB's on schollie...maybe next year we can get that to one.

Give your buddy Fogler a call and thank him for hiring Huggy for us again.

[fatty fat fat]

Tim, we know you're excited about the hire that was made while you reside over the department.

It's ok that he has only 2 QB's on schollie...maybe next year we can get that to one.

Give your buddy Fogler a call and thank him for hiring Huggy for us again.

Jesus. Take your crappy posting to gopowercat.com

[Jeffrey_Martin]

It sounds like he was pissed that he was told he would be given a chance to win the job...spent all summer working out..and had magically been made the scout team QB before one snap of fall practice...then got like 1 or 2 snaps in said first practice.

I'd be pissed off too..no one with integrity lies to a player like that...

I'd say Wildcat Nation has some pretty accurate info.

Man, if I were you I'd run down a couple of sources and print that info.  Talk about selling papers.

Ok, ScubaSteve, I'll bite. Something bothering you? You seem a little bitter.

[Stillwater Cat]

Some one with better p-shop skills can take this magazine cover over and fill in the headlines.

[ScubaSteve]

It sounds like he was pissed that he was told he would be given a chance to win the job...spent all summer working out..and had magically been made the scout team QB before one snap of fall practice...then got like 1 or 2 snaps in said first practice.

I'd be pissed off too..no one with integrity lies to a player like that...

I'd say Wildcat Nation has some pretty accurate info.

Man, if I were you I'd run down a couple of sources and print that info.  Talk about selling papers.

Ok, ScubaSteve, I'll bite. Something bothering you? You seem a little bitter.

What do you mean?  You don't think that would sell some papers?

[fatty fat fat]

What do you mean?  You don't think that would sell some papers?

Some are reliable. Some aren't.

If you've followed J-Mart work AT ALL you'd realize nearly everything he's said has been 100% correct.

[MrWhite]

Here's what it comes down to:

Based on information printed in the media, I think Evridge was misled and mistreated.

Based on speculation and rumors, you think Evridge isn't good enough to play for Kansas State.

You couldn't be more wrong if you were banging an infant panda while posting that.

What we know is that Evridge was competing through Spring.

We know that Freeman has been busting but enough to play well in the Spring and gain 20 pounds of muscle.

We know that coach put Evridge at #3 at the start of fall practices.

And we know that Evridge would rather leave than be the #3 QB at KSU.

That's the undeniable truth of this story.

My opinion is that putting Evridge #3 is reasonable.  It can be argued against, but it can be argued for as well.

[fatty fat fat]

Of course, that is outside of the Mario Taybron fiasco.

[michigancat]

You left out the fact that Evridge was going to be the #3 QB no matter what, as he would not receive significant reps to prove himself, and the fact that Prince childishly cleaned out Evridge's locker when he was considering a transfer.

Another fact is Prince couldn't adequately manage the ego's of 3 freaking QB's on a 105 man roster.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Rusty and I and others might be more well versed on following a program that can't hold onto valuable players as we have followed KSU bball through the Wooly era.

Whitey, the point is, he was told he would be allowed to compete for the starting job when fall camp opened...but he wasn't.

[fatty fat fat]

Rusty and I and others might be more well versed on following a program that can't hold onto valuable players as we have followed KSU bball through the Wooly era.

Get back to us when Prince is losing his star player in his 4th year of coaching.

No Brain.

[ScubaSteve]

What do you mean?  You don't think that would sell some papers?

Some are reliable. Some aren't.

If you've followed J-Mart work AT ALL you'd realize nearly everything he's said has been 100% correct.

I have followed J-Mart's work VERY closely.  100% correct?  Hmmm... maybe.  100% accurate?  I would say probably so.  I don't have a problem with J-Mart's work.  It's the whole print media industry that bugs me.   I understand Prince and Co. isn't talking on this issue except for the standard SID line.  Do we want Prince to spout his side of the story?  J-Mart has to print something interesting.  Prince cleaning Alan's locker out is interesting.  If he just printed that Alan was transfering, he'd have the same story that anyone else has.  That doesn't make J-Mart a bad reporter, in fact, it probably makes him a good reporter depending on how you measure a good reporter.

Hey, I like Jeff Martin's work ethic.  He's proving to be the best beat writer in the state.  That doesn't mean I have to like the way the whole industry operates.

[michigancat]

What do you mean?  You don't think that would sell some papers?

Some are reliable. Some aren't.

If you've followed J-Mart work AT ALL you'd realize nearly everything he's said has been 100% correct.

I have followed J-Mart's work VERY closely.  100% correct?  Hmmm... maybe.  100% accurate?  I would say probably so.  I don't have a problem with J-Mart's work.  It's the whole print media industry that bugs me.   I understand Prince and Co. isn't talking on this issue except for the standard SID line.  Do we want Prince to spout his side of the story?  J-Mart has to print something interesting.  Prince cleaning Alan's locker out is interesting.  If he just printed that Alan was transfering, he'd have the same story that anyone else has.  That doesn't make J-Mart a bad reporter, in fact, it probably makes him a good reporter depending on how you measure a good reporter.

Hey, I like Jeff Martin's work ethic.  He's proving to be the best beat writer in the state.  That doesn't mean I have to like the way the whole industry operates.

Aren't you a gp.com subscriber?

[MrWhite]

You left out the fact that Evridge was going to be the #3 QB no matter what, as he would not receive significant reps to prove himself, and the fact that Prince childishly cleaned out Evridge's locker when he was considering a transfer.

Another fact is Prince couldn't adequately manage the ego's of 3 freaking QB's on a 105 man roster.

That's not a fact, it's an opinion.

If it were a fact, Freeman and Meier would have been the starting QBs in the Spring Game, and the top two through the spring practices.

But it was Evridge on the two deep.

Evridge's ego couldn't handle being #3.  So he wanted to switch to defense and leave the team with 2 QBs.  Coach said no way,  we need you as #3 QB.

And Evridge left.

Those are the facts.

Pull out and untwist your panties.  Make sure any runaway sand is cleaned out as well.  If need be, douche.

Then maybe you'll be able to look at this issue with a little reason.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Rusty and I and others might be more well versed on following a program that can't hold onto valuable players as we have followed KSU bball through the Wooly era.

Get back to us when Prince is losing his star player in his 4th year of coaching.

No Brain.

He needs to get to year 4 first...

[michigancat]

You left out the fact that Evridge was going to be the #3 QB no matter what, as he would not receive significant reps to prove himself, and the fact that Prince childishly cleaned out Evridge's locker when he was considering a transfer.

Another fact is Prince couldn't adequately manage the ego's of 3 freaking QB's on a 105 man roster.

That's not a fact, it's an opinion.

If it were a fact, Freeman and Meier would have been the starting QBs in the Spring Game, and the top two through the spring practices.

But it was Evridge on the two deep.

Evridge's ego couldn't handle being #3.  So he wanted to switch to defense and leave the team with 2 QBs.  Coach said no way,  we need you as #3 QB.

And Evridge left.

Those are the facts.

Pull out and untwist your panties.  Make sure any runaway sand is cleaned out as well.  If need be, douche.

Then maybe you'll be able to look at this issue with a little reason.

If having 3 QB's was so important, why was AE's locker cleaned out why he was pondering his decision?

Also, if he could handle 3 egos, we would have 3 scholarship QB's right now, instead of 2.  <----100% fact

[michigancat]

Rusty and I and others might be more well versed on following a program that can't hold onto valuable players as we have followed KSU bball through the Wooly era.

Get back to us when Prince is losing his star player in his 4th year of coaching.

No Brain.

He needs to get to year 4 first...

Heh. 

He got ya there, fatty.

[fatty fat fat]

Rusty and I and others might be more well versed on following a program that can't hold onto valuable players as we have followed KSU bball through the Wooly era.

Get back to us when Prince is losing his star player in his 4th year of coaching.

No Brain.

He needs to get to year 4 first...

No one cared when wooly kicked players off the team is his 1st year.

Of course, that's because no one really cared about basketball. 

If Prince doesn't make it to his 4th year (assuming his results are no worse than Wooldridge), it'd  because he's black and wooldridge was not, and KSU fans care about football and could care less about basketball.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Playing the race card?  Wow..

[fatty fat fat]

If Jim Wooldridge was a black man, there is no way he stays for 6 seasons.