Serious D. Arthur Question for the board

[Saulbadguy]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already owned you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

[catzacker]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

What is the violations score in basketball and football?  TIA.

[sonofdaxjones]

Years of D1 coaching/administrative experience prior to being hired by their current employers:

Dalonte Hill: 3 years with a C-USA program that went to 3 straight NCAA tourneys

Ronnie Chalmers:  ZERO

[Ben]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

[catzacker]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

they don't matter.  football and basketball please, tia.

[Ben]

Years of D1 coaching/administrative experience prior to being hired by their current employers:

Dalonte Hill: 3 years with a C-USA program that went to 3 straight NCAA tourneys

Ronnie Chalmers:  ZERO

...and again, Ronnie Chalmers is NOT AN ASSISTANT COACH.  The man is making a modest salary as the Director of Basketball Operations after 25+ years of a military and coaching background.  Seriously, try to compare that to a 20-something year-old AAU coach (with a recent DUI) making $300,000 a year.  


 

[sonofdaxjones]

ku Men's basketball has been on probation: 5 times (sport directly sanctioned all 5 times)

ku Football: 4 times  (Sport Directly sanctioned all 4 times)

K-State Basketball: 1 time

K-State football: 4 times  (number of probations that led to sanction against Football directly: 3)

[Ben]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

they don't matter.  football and basketball please, tia.

Well in that case... 2008 National Champions in men's basketball (37-3)  +  2008 Orange Bowl Champions in football (12-1)

[catzacker]

Thanks Dax.  Now on to my second question:  how would it be possible for a coach not to know for over a year a player's terrible academic standing?  

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

...and again, Ronnie Chalmers is NOT AN ASSISTANT COACH.  The man is making a modest salary as the Director of Basketball Operations after 25+ years of a military and coaching background.  

Again, what is his salary?  Also, don't comingle military service and coaching experience.  That's just stupid.  

[sonofdaxjones]

Years of D1 coaching/administrative experience prior to being hired by their current employers:

Dalonte Hill: 3 years with a C-USA program that went to 3 straight NCAA tourneys

Ronnie Chalmers:  ZERO

...and again, Ronnie Chalmers is NOT AN ASSISTANT COACH.  The man is making a modest salary as the Director of Basketball Operations after 25+ years of a military and coaching background.  Seriously, try to compare that to a 20-something year-old AAU coach (with a recent DUI) making $300,000 a year. 


 

Again for the retarded:

Number of years of Division One basketball Coaching/Administrative experience prior to current employer:

Dalonte Hill:  3 years

Ronnie Chalmers:  Zero

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben what is Ronnie "another dad hire for ku" Chalmers' salary??

[Ben]

...and again, Ronnie Chalmers is NOT AN ASSISTANT COACH.  The man is making a modest salary as the Director of Basketball Operations after 25+ years of a military and coaching background.  

Again, what is his salary?  Also, don't comingle military service and coaching experience.  That's just stupid.  

Why don't you look up the job description for Director of Baskeball Operations?  Discipline and organization skills are at the top of the list.  Better yet... why don't you give me a full-length, detailed description of what it would take to qualify for the job of Director of Basketball Operations.

[sonofdaxjones]

What is his salary??

We don't care what his job description is (Jesus are you in for an eye opener when you hit the real world), how much money does ku pay the man??

[Saulbadguy]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

Uh, ku would do well to say that minor sports don't matter because they generally suck in all of them.  For that matter, go to Phog.net and mention wbb, volleyball, or whatever and you will get flamed.  

[catzacker]

I don't care about how much ronnie makes, frankly, considering the last two players to lead ku to a national championship had their dads on the bench, Ronnie (and Ed) probably weren't paid enough.

I really want to know if Self never, ever knew Shady's academic trouble and then wondered to himself how it all magically went away.  

[Ben]

What is his salary??

We don't care what his job description is (Jesus are you in for an eye opener when you hit the real world), how much money does ku pay the man??

How the f*ck should I know, 'Pad?

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

Uh, ku would do well to say that minor sports don't matter because they generally suck in all of them.  For that matter, go to Phog.net and mention wbb, volleyball, or whatever and you will get flamed.  

You do realize that ku just won Big 12 titles in baseball and softball in '06, right?  

[sonofdaxjones]

I agree, K-State has to get into the dad hiring business, been saying that for years.  Lots of "Friend of the Family" stuff as well with KSU boosters befriending and financially supporting entire families of prospective major NCAA D1 talent. 

Well Ben, you keep saying he doesn't make "much" money, how much money is "not much"??  Well, as per usual you can't tell us. 

[Ben]

I agree, K-State has to get into the dad hiring business, been saying that for years.  Lost of "Friend of the Family" stuff as well with KSU boosters befriending and financially supporting entire families of prospective major NCAA D1 talent. 

Well Ben, you keep saying he doesn't make "much" money, how much money is "not much"??  Well, as per usual you can't tell us. 

For crying out loud... you guys brought in the #1 player in the country along with Bill Walker and finished 21-12.

 

[fatty fat fat]

Seriously, he couldn't pass algebra. As a senior in HS.

Christ.

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben trying to change the subject as per usual.   

[Ben]

Ben trying to change the subject as per usual.   

Once again... my post was in direct response to your comments.  You want to talk about getting "down and dirty" with the recruiting business... but you guys brought in the best player in the country to go along with a guy that was regarded by many as a top 10 recruit and still couldn't finish higher than 3rd in the Big 12 and 21-12 overall. 

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, because we all know what a weak league the Big 12 was this last year, and we all know how Freshman dominated teams have cleaned up in the Big 12.

Albeit, I don't recall in one post talking about the win loss records, conference finish etc. etc. of any Big 12 team in this entire thread. 

[Ben]

Yeah, because we all know what a weak league the Big 12 was this last year, and we all know how Freshman dominated teams have cleaned up in the Big 12.

Albeit, I don't recall in one post talking about the win loss records, conference finish etc. etc. of any Big 12 team in this entire thread. 

Sorry, was that little dose of reality too much for you to handle?  Oh, and I seem to remember a certain freshman-dominated team winning the conference in '06, but I disgress....

[sonofdaxjones]

Well dumbass that same "freshman oriented" in 2006 team was whom several years later?

[Ben]

Better then, better now.  I must admit... I enjoy arguing with you Dax.  You're the kind of guy I'd like to have on my side.


::: group hug :::


Have a great weekend.

[steve dave]

My god, I turn my back for 2 seconds, come back, and Dax has totally destroyed BMW 

[fatty fat fat]

fwiw, word on campus is Beasley set the curve in calc 1, and didn't even have to take the calc 2 final.

Arthur? Can't pass algebra.

Good stuff.

[scottb1987]

So now K-State fans have come full circle... it went from the high school's fault to Bill Self's in less than 30 minutes.

It's just one of those things you assume when a basketball program is on probation as much as ku is.

Amazingly, ku and K-State are tied for the same number of major NCAA infractions... but don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Dax has already pwn3d you on this subject. I suggest you bow out now.

LOL... your athletic department was penalized three times in the '90's alone... in three different sports.  'Pad just pretends like it doesn't matter because some of the infractions occurred in non-revenue sports.

they don't matter.  football and basketball please, tia.

Well in that case... *****2008 National Champions in men's basketball (37-3)*****  +  2008 Orange Bowl Champions in football (12-1)

Fixed it for you, you forgot your asteriks

[catdude33]

Is BMW seriously trying to argue that hiring a D1 assistant to be a D1 assistant somewhere else is worse than hiring a players dad, with zero experience, to be ANYTHING within a D1 college basketball program?  Come on BMW, you know better than this.  Stop being retarded.