hello eveyone...

[Kat Kid]

People trying to come up with "rational" explanations as to why Mike should stay are the worst people in the entire world. 

There are many honorable and rational reasons to stay.    Don't be such an ass.

They are all selfish reasons.  Undeniably selfish reasons from ksu fans who wouldn't make the same decision they are asking Mike to make.  If Mike played for ku, would those same people still want him to stay for all those "honorable and rational reasons"?  Hell no.  KSU fans want him to stay because he played for KSU, not because there would be any "honor" in it. 

Yeah, getting a degree is completely selfish.   It has no value and no worth despite what you're taught when you grow up.   It is completely selfish to think he shouldn't stay, get his degree which will help him with future business decisions considering how much wealth he'll have.

Lord knows people with degrees suck.

I can't believe you are making this argument.

[ECN]

i can.

[treysolid]

Good luck with the whole decision making process that is coming up now, Ma!  If Mike does decide to go pro, just don't hire Pelinka   

[Cat Maniac]

People trying to come up with "rational" explanations as to why Mike should stay are the worst people in the entire world. 

There are many honorable and rational reasons to stay.    Don't be such an ass.

They are all selfish reasons.  Undeniably selfish reasons from ksu fans who wouldn't make the same decision they are asking Mike to make.  If Mike played for ku, would those same people still want him to stay for all those "honorable and rational reasons"?  Hell no.  KSU fans want him to stay because he played for KSU, not because there would be any "honor" in it. 

Yeah, getting a degree is completely selfish.   It has no value and no worth despite what you're taught when you grow up.   It is completely selfish to think he shouldn't stay, get his degree which will help him with future business decisions considering how much wealth he'll have.

Lord knows people with degrees suck.

Nothing could stop him from getting a degree 20 years from now, after his salad days in the NBA are over.  Rolando did it that way; worked out fine for him.

Though for purely selfish reasons, I'd love for Mike to come back to K-State, I couldn't in good conscience advise him to do that.  There's no real upside for him to stay, other than to create his legacy here.  He's proven everything he needs to prove.

Legacies ain't worth 20 million, unfortunately.  IMHO, of course...

[catzacker]

People trying to come up with "rational" explanations as to why Mike should stay are the worst people in the entire world. 

There are many honorable and rational reasons to stay.    Don't be such an ass.

They are all selfish reasons.  Undeniably selfish reasons from ksu fans who wouldn't make the same decision they are asking Mike to make.  If Mike played for ku, would those same people still want him to stay for all those "honorable and rational reasons"?  Hell no.  KSU fans want him to stay because he played for KSU, not because there would be any "honor" in it. 

Yeah, getting a degree is completely selfish.   It has no value and no worth despite what you're taught when you grow up.   It is completely selfish to think he shouldn't stay, get his degree which will help him with future business decisions considering how much wealth he'll have.

Lord knows people with degrees suck.

Why did you get your degree?  To get a job, right?  Why does Mike need a degree?  Do people with degrees always do the right things with their money?

Would you want or care if he got a degree if he was just another student on campus?  Or does it matter that he can shoot a jumpshot?

You want him to stay so KSU basketball will be good/great.  That's it.  

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why did you get your degree?  To get a job, right?  Why does Mike need a degree?  Do people with degrees always do the right things with their money?

Would you want or care if he got a degree if he was just another student on campus?  Or does it matter that he can shoot a jumpshot?

You want him to stay so KSU basketball will be good/great.  That's it.  

If Beasley stays another year, will you stand behind all of this talk by booing him as he takes the floor?  If you don't, you are selfish. 

[sys]

just wanted to say hello and thanks for all well wishes!

please ask michael to post something on ksufans.com whenever he is out from under the oppressive thumb of the ksu sid.  it would mean a great deal to all of us.

[MOKSUAZ]

just wanted to say hello and thanks for all well wishes!

please ask michael to post something on ksufans.com whenever he is out from under the oppressive thumb of the ksu sid.  it would mean a great deal to all of us.

[Skydog]

just wanted to say hello and thanks for all well wishes!

please ask michael to post something on ksufans.com whenever he is out from under the oppressive thumb of the ksu sid.  it would mean a great deal to all of us.

That would be hella cool.

[jester66]

You guys are really something.  Do you think you are bringing up points that they have not considered?  Take off your purple glasses for a few, please.  I'm not saying they should do one thing over the other; noneya has ever had to make this type of decision.  You should only hope that at the end of the day, they make the best choice for them.  If Mike leaves, that's okay, he's an incredible person with an extraordinary family.  Money is important and it would be difficult to turn it down.  On the other hand, you're only young once, and things will change for good and bad if you turn your love into your profession.  Regardless, I wish them all well and am happy that they will always be Wildcats.

[mcmwcat]

has tracy mcgrady ever won a playoff series?

great point mcmw.  how many playoff series has tim duncan won?

[Pete]

If Beasley stays another year, will you stand behind all of this talk by booing him as he takes the floor?  If you don't, you are selfish. 

This doesn't logically follow from Catzacker's argument.  If he takes the floor next year, Catzacker will be booing those who advised him to stay, not booing Beasley.

I would never fault Mike for HIS decision, but I'd certainly question the motives of someone who advised a person to pass up hundreds of thousands in lost interest on earnings...and risk millions with potential injury.

[ECN]

have him get insured.

The NCAA has been offering insurance to elite athletes for 15 years, but it was a little-used program until January 2003, when University of Miami football player Willis McGahee suffered a horrific knee injury in the national title game. After seeing such a bright future apparently felled with one blow (though McGahee eventually recovered), interest in the NCAA insurance program spiked; now about 150 athletes a year secure policies, the heavy majority in football and men's basketball.

The policies are generally for injuries that end a career, not ones that cause a player's draft status to drop.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If Beasley stays another year, will you stand behind all of this talk by booing him as he takes the floor?  If you don't, you are selfish. 

This doesn't logically follow from Catzacker's argument.  If he takes the floor next year, Catzacker will be booing those who advised him to stay, not booing Beasley.

I would never fault Mike for HIS decision, but I'd certainly question the motives of someone who advised a person to pass up hundreds of thousands in lost interest on earnings...and risk millions with potential injury.

So basically, you are saying that there is really only ONE thing for Mike to do here.  If he chooses to stay, he's an idiot.  Ok.  That clears it up.  You and Zacker can be the 2 guys booing Mike next year if he comes back.  Maybe even make a sign telling him he was stupid to think you'd support him.  

[pissclams]

i can't wait for Mike Beasley to go pro ASAP and start enjoying the life of an NBA superstar.  +, it will be very cool to watch him play 82 + the playoffs games a year, instead of a measley 30.

#30#1




good luck Mom + Mike

[mcmwcat]

money/fame can ruin a person.  it's not like it hasn't happened before.  i don't think the answer is as easy as the "take the money and run" proponents makes it.  and "the come back and enjoy college" arguments are just as silly. 

the only reason beasley should come back is if he feels he's not ready for complete independence or, better yet, if he thinks he can become a more complete basketball player by coming back. 

the money is enticing and almost unavoidable to accept.

[mcmwcat]

it will be very cool to watch him play 82 + the playoffs games a year, instead of a measley 30

argument #1 for leaving.

[Pete]

If Beasley stays another year, will you stand behind all of this talk by booing him as he takes the floor?  If you don't, you are selfish. 

This doesn't logically follow from Catzacker's argument.  If he takes the floor next year, Catzacker will be booing those who advised him to stay, not booing Beasley.

I would never fault Mike for HIS decision, but I'd certainly question the motives of someone who advised a person to pass up hundreds of thousands in lost interest on earnings...and risk millions with potential injury.

So basically, you are saying that there is really only ONE thing for Mike to do here.  If he chooses to stay, he's an idiot.  Ok.  That clears it up.  You and Zacker can be the 2 guys booing Mike next year if he comes back.  Maybe even make a sign telling him he was stupid to think you'd support him.  

It is quite clear that you don't understand Catzacker's argument, or mine.

No problem with someone who decides, for themself, that they want to give up large sums of money to do something that they enjoy more.

Problem with someone advising Mike to give up large sums of money for something that this "someone" enjoys (i.e. watching Mike play for KSU).

frack dude, I'll "support" him either way.  I won't "support" mouth-breathing dolts who try to suggest that there isn't a very real cost associated with staying, and a very real risk that the cost would escalate dramatically with an injury.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'd just have one thing to say to Mike.  When you sign that NBA contract and get that signing bonus check, remember that K-State is building a new basketball practice/operations facility.  The Michael Beasley Practice Court . . . has a nice ring to it.

[catzacker]

If Beasley stays another year, will you stand behind all of this talk by booing him as he takes the floor?  If you don't, you are selfish. 

This doesn't logically follow from Catzacker's argument.  If he takes the floor next year, Catzacker will be booing those who advised him to stay, not booing Beasley.

I would never fault Mike for HIS decision, but I'd certainly question the motives of someone who advised a person to pass up hundreds of thousands in lost interest on earnings...and risk millions with potential injury.

So basically, you are saying that there is really only ONE thing for Mike to do here.  If he chooses to stay, he's an idiot.  Ok.  That clears it up.  You and Zacker can be the 2 guys booing Mike next year if he comes back.  Maybe even make a sign telling him he was stupid to think you'd support him.  

No.  That's not it at all.  All I'm asking/saying is that the only reason KSU fans want him to stay is for selfish reasons, not for some honorable reasons.  Just admit that instead of trying to mask it with some other BS reason.  

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

frack dude, I'll "support" him either way.  I won't "support" mouth-breathing dolts who try to suggest that there isn't a very real cost associated with staying, and a very real risk that the cost would escalate dramatically with an injury.

Congrats to you for making it this long without having the "Argyle Square" label attached to your name. 

[Pete]

I'd just have one thing to say to Mike.  When you sign that NBA contract and get that signing bonus check, remember that K-State is building a new basketball practice/operations facility.  The Michael Beasley Practice Court . . . has a nice ring to it.

Carmelo Anthony did that very thing for Syracuse.  The Syracuse practice facility is called the "Carmelo Anthony Practice Facility."

[pissclams]

I'd just have one thing to say to Mike.  When you sign that NBA contract and get that signing bonus check, remember that K-State is building a new basketball practice/operations facility.  The Michael Beasley Practice Court . . . has a nice ring to it.

Carmelo Anthony did that very thing for Syracuse.  The Syracuse practice facility is called the "Carmelo Anthony Practice Facility."

Weiser got a huge raise when he went to his new job in Dallas, I wonder if he can afford it now?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'd just have one thing to say to Mike.  When you sign that NBA contract and get that signing bonus check, remember that K-State is building a new basketball practice/operations facility.  The Michael Beasley Practice Court . . . has a nice ring to it.

Carmelo Anthony did that very thing for Syracuse.  The Syracuse practice facility is called the "Carmelo Anthony Practice Facility."

 

On Carmelo’s name on the building:
“Well, I think the name and what Carmelo has done has helped us and will continue to help us as we go forward. That’s a huge part of college basketball. There’s a recruiting aspect that will help us. I think just to have a place where the players can go in and practice – there will be a handprint code on the door. If they want to shoot at 10 o’clock in the morning, they can go in and shoot – well, that might be unrealistic – maybe 6 o’clock at night or 8 o’clock at night if they want to go in. Paul (Harris) likes to shoot at 2:00 in the morning sometimes. That will give him the opportunity to go in there and be able to clank a few shots up there.”

BAD ASS.

[Pete]

frack dude, I'll "support" him either way.  I won't "support" mouth-breathing dolts who try to suggest that there isn't a very real cost associated with staying, and a very real risk that the cost would escalate dramatically with an injury.

Congrats to you for making it this long without having the "Argyle Square" label attached to your name. 

Throughout your nonsensical posts earlier in this thread I wondered aloud if you were a high-functioning moron, or 14 years old.  After that shot by you, I could care less.  

You crossed the line dick hole.  You are dead to me.  

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Throughout your nonsensical posts earlier in this thread I wondered aloud if you were a high-functioning moron, or 14 years old.  After that shot by you, I could care less.  

You crossed the line dick hole.  You are dead to me.  

That was way to dramatic to be a real response.  You are covering something up.  I think we all know what it is now.  Rock Chalk Petey. 

[LimestoneOutcropping]

It is fracking hilarious that this debate is even going on, with each side trying to validate their points.  Everyone who even casually follows college ball can recite both sides to the argument the way a second graders recites the Pledge of Allegiance.  Mike has probably been thinking about this decision since his Jr. year, at least.  No one on here is convincing him either way but to argue it is like arguing about the War.  There are 2 sides and both are well known.  For pissing in the soup.

Mom, thanks to you and Mike.  I enjoyed the hell out of this year even though I wanted to jump off a bridge saturday evening.  Enjoy Miami, it is a great city.  Don't forget about us over here.  No one at KSU will forget your son.

[SupremeWildcat]

Ma Beaz,
Thanks so much for being a part of our KSU family.  Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat.
I've really enjoyed your blogs and posts

[Jayhoxx]

I didn't read all the way through here.  Did anyone point out to Mom that the common belief is that K-State will be better off without Mike?

[chum1]

She is aware of common beliefs.  They are, after all, common.