Jacob Pullen 19 points in 18 minutes...

[BarryMcCockner]

Pullen's matador defense = fouls on Walker & Beasley = bench time

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Pullen's matador defense = fouls on Walker & Beasley = bench time

The idea that Jake struggles on defense (moreso than clent) is a myth.  Clent's defense isn't any better. 

[ew2x4]

Clent sucks on D. The fact the Blake guards the point just proves this. No reason the same couldn't happen for Jake.

[BarryMcCockner]

Clent gives up open jumpers because he's not quick enough to get around screens, but when guys drive on him he almost always funnels them to the baseline, making it easy for he bigs to cut them off.  Jake lets guys blow by him into the middle of the lane because he is horribly out of position, which results in fouls on the bigs.  Huge difference.

[catzacker]

Clent gives up open jumpers because he's not quick enough to get around screens, but when guys drive on him he almost always funnels them to the baseline, making it easy for he bigs to cut them off.  Jake lets guys blow by him into the middle of the lane because he is horribly out of position, which results in fouls on the bigs.  Huge difference.

Bullsh*t.  If anything, our Bigs have learned to just let the guy get the easy layup without drawing a foul.  Bill's foul trouble is primarily his fault because he usually has 1 or 2 stupid fouls.  Beasley's fouls yesterday as well as against ku, were over the backs and offensive.

[Bullfn33]

Clent gives up open jumpers because he's not quick enough to get around screens, but when guys drive on him he almost always funnels them to the baseline, making it easy for he bigs to cut them off.  Jake lets guys blow by him into the middle of the lane because he is horribly out of position, which results in fouls on the bigs.  Huge difference.

Anyone defending Pullen's bench time =

Fact: KSU is one and done in any tournament w/o Pullen getting serious minutes at PG.  We are too easy to shut down without someone that can break down a defense and create when our bigs are getting suffocated.

[BarryMcCockner]

Clent gives up open jumpers because he's not quick enough to get around screens, but when guys drive on him he almost always funnels them to the baseline, making it easy for he bigs to cut them off.  Jake lets guys blow by him into the middle of the lane because he is horribly out of position, which results in fouls on the bigs.  Huge difference.

Bullsh*t.  If anything, our Bigs have learned to just let the guy get the easy layup without drawing a foul.  Bill's foul trouble is primarily his fault because he usually has 1 or 2 stupid fouls.  Beasley's fouls yesterday as well as against ku, were over the backs and offensive.

So they are left with the choice of fouling of giving up a layup...and you think that is a good situation?

[BarryMcCockner]

So, if it's not the fact that Pullen sucks on defense that is keeping him off the floor, what is?  Do you really think the staff doesn't realize that we are a better offensive team with Jake out there than Clent?  If so, that is some severe hate towards the staff.  Damn near every time you see Frank go off on Jake, it is because of his defense...occasionally for a poor decision on offense, but almost always after a defensive blow by.

Please explain his lack of minutes with an alternative theory.  TIA.

[catzacker]

Clent gives up open jumpers because he's not quick enough to get around screens, but when guys drive on him he almost always funnels them to the baseline, making it easy for he bigs to cut them off.  Jake lets guys blow by him into the middle of the lane because he is horribly out of position, which results in fouls on the bigs.  Huge difference.

Bullsh*t.  If anything, our Bigs have learned to just let the guy get the easy layup without drawing a foul.  Bill's foul trouble is primarily his fault because he usually has 1 or 2 stupid fouls.  Beasley's fouls yesterday as well as against ku, were over the backs and offensive.

So they are left with the choice of fouling of giving up a layup...and you think that is a good situation?

Your assertion is that our bigs' foul trouble had some correlation to pullen's "layup defense", that's wrong, our bigs foul trouble has nothing to do with that...I was speaking to Beasley and Walker pretty much letting layups go (no matter who let's the player go by them).  

Clent offers nothing better than Pullen.  Nothing.  In conference, Pullen scores better, shoots at a higher FG%, higher 3pt %, higher FT%, has a higher A/TO ratio, and averages more steals per game as well.  

[WildCatzPhreak]

You're trying to defend Clent's playing time over Jake's.  Nevermind the horrible, horrible passes that get picked off for easy points that Clent makes.  Nevermind the fact that he's been absolutely horrid offensively the last several games, missing wide open jumpers and layups.  Nevermind that Jake can create his own offense and make shots around and away from the basket.  Nevermind that Jake is better than anyone else on the team at distributing to Bill and Mike.

Jake's also fast enough to guard opposing players.  Clent isn't.  Opposing guards run right past him.  Hell, opposing centers run right past him.  Sure Jake might get caught out of position every once in a while.  It's a small price to pay for all the other things he brings to the table that Clent can't.

And we do direct hate towards the staff for not playing Jake.  There's like eleventy billions threads on it.

[catzacker]

So, if it's not the fact that Pullen sucks on defense that is keeping him off the floor, what is?  Do you really think the staff doesn't realize that we are a better offensive team with Jake out there than Clent?  If so, that is some severe hate towards the staff.  Damn near every time you see Frank go off on Jake, it is because of his defense...occasionally for a poor decision on offense, but almost always after a defensive blow by.

Please explain his lack of minutes with an alternative theory.  TIA.

The theory is that Pullen and clent play the same defense, but Frank his holding Pullen to a higher standard.  Which is f'ing retarded because he plays at a higher level than Clent as a freshman.  Frank's handling of Pullen towards the end of this season is fracking ridiculous.  

[dubnation]

I was watching an old duke game and jason williams made some bad plays as a freshmen and coach K sat him down went up to him and said we cant win without you get your head in the game and lets win and he put him back out thier and he preformed frank method isnt helping he hasn't allowed jake to learn from his mistakes and now we are here at the end of the season and he still hasnt learned to trust him. so I ask what will make him trust him he has shown he is willing to lose instead of putting the best talent out their at all times why not run him extra at practice. his defense is only bad when he helps and no one covers his man. when they played Texas he was the only one that kept augstin out of the paint go back and watch he gambles alot and the team isnt used to playing with him so they havent formed any defensive chemistry I blame frank and frank alone for that and thats why I dont see them going far in the tournament

[doom]

I was watching an old duke game and jason williams made some bad plays as a freshmen and coach K sat him down went up to him and said we cant win without you get your head in the game and lets win and he put him back out thier and he preformed frank method isnt helping he hasn't allowed jake to learn from his mistakes and now we are here at the end of the season and he still hasnt learned to trust him. so I ask what will make him trust him he has shown he is willing to lose instead of putting the best talent out their at all times why not run him extra at practice. his defense is only bad when he helps and no one covers his man. when they played Texas he was the only one that kept augstin out of the paint go back and watch he gambles alot and the team isnt used to playing with him so they havent formed any defensive chemistry I blame frank and frank alone for that and thats why I dont see them going far in the tournament

Somebody is bitter.  This is Frank's opportunity to be a success.  He's not pissing on his best PG w/o a method to his madness. 

[The Nasti]

what the frack!  in the postgame they ask frank about pullen and he talks about a missed layup at nebraska... i just don't get it

Frank has admitted that he is hardest on Pullen about 3,000+ times already this year. This comment is not surprising. I prefer Frank to be hard on Jake being that he should be the leader of this team for the next 3 seasons. Coddling his ego is not an effective way to cultivate toughness - which is really what you need to be if your goal is to become an elite Big XII PG.