Obama, pull through

[AzCat]

I don't know how heated the Mass gov race was, and I don't think it is so much bigotry.  I just think that mormons are going to be seen as far-right due to their religious beliefs.  I think on a national stage, people will have more money to show this.  In addition, his flip on abortion will help to scare away some republican bread and butter.

And to be fair, a 12-day coke bender and hitting the red button?  Isn't that something that Bush has done in his past, just not the coke during his presidency.

There's very little chance of any recent ex-MA governor being seen as "far-right".  Romney is actually a bit left for my taste given his stated goal of forcing everyone into a government supervised health-care program.  That'll be an utter disaster and bank-breaker no matter who does it or how it's done.

In a weird way I can trust Bush because he went from one form of extremism (being a drunk and addict) to another (being a religious douchebag); that makes him predictable.  Not so Obama who seems to revel in his past indiscretions, I can see him doing a quick line in the back of the campaign bus before heading out to throw red meat to his masses then twisting a fatty to chill while on the road to his next stop. 

I would agree.

Huckabee and Thompson are more right than Romney.

Thompson is a troll, the worst of the Republicans as a candidate; luckily he's dead in the water.  The Huckster is right on one and only one issu: the Fair Tax.

[AzCat]

So now that Obama has lost NH we can safely conclude that the grown-ups turned out to vote.   

[Kat Kid]

I don't know how heated the Mass gov race was, and I don't think it is so much bigotry.  I just think that mormons are going to be seen as far-right due to their religious beliefs.  I think on a national stage, people will have more money to show this.  In addition, his flip on abortion will help to scare away some republican bread and butter.

And to be fair, a 12-day coke bender and hitting the red button?  Isn't that something that Bush has done in his past, just not the coke during his presidency.

There's very little chance of any recent ex-MA governor being seen as "far-right".  Romney is actually a bit left for my taste given his stated goal of forcing everyone into a government supervised health-care program.  That'll be an utter disaster and bank-breaker no matter who does it or how it's done.

In a weird way I can trust Bush because he went from one form of extremism (being a drunk and addict) to another (being a religious douchebag); that makes him predictable.  Not so Obama who seems to revel in his past indiscretions, I can see him doing a quick line in the back of the campaign bus before heading out to throw red meat to his masses then twisting a fatty to chill while on the road to his next stop. 

I would agree.

Huckabee and Thompson are more right than Romney.

Thompson is a troll, the worst of the Republicans as a candidate; luckily he's dead in the water.  The Huckster is right on one and only one issu: the Fair Tax.

The Fair Tax should be Guliani's issue considering what an unbelievable win it would be for the Mob.

Clinton winning is bad news for the country.

and Az:  You should at least pretend like you are discussing reality when speaking of Obama's position on Pakistan.

[sys]

Clinton winning is bad news for the country.

clinton winning would give bloomberg an opening.  that might be fun.

[Kat Kid]

Clinton winning is bad news for the country.

clinton winning would give bloomberg an opening.  that might be fun.

Hell, I would consider voting for Bloomberg depending on his Iraq timetable.  He pretty much is a mainstream Dem, but with better free trade positions.

[ChicagoCat]

I wouldn't say Obama revel's in them, I would just say he is honest about them.  I also think the landscape would change greatly if Obama were white, just not sure if it would help him.  I think he would gain some suppport but would lose other.  Bush is predictable, the problem is that his predictability is stupid fracking decisions.  I think Obama is too image concious to do something that crazy.  The guy has a pretty remarkable image and message, which makes up for some of the knocks on his experience.

[WildCatzPhreak]

I don't think I'm going to vote in this election at all.  I really don't like anyone that has a chance in hell at winning.

Usually it's a 'lesser of the two evils' thing, but I don't trust my judgement after the last election.  (I voted for Bush, DAMN that was a mistake.)

[ksuno1stunner]

tl;dr

[steve dave]

If Obama wins SC he runs away with it imHo....unless Hilary starts crying again 

[slucat]

I wish Richardson was in the thick of things.

Mitt is a condesending robot.

[steve dave]

Hell, I would consider voting for Bloomberg depending on his Iraq timetable.  He pretty much is a mainstream Dem, but with better free trade positions.

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

[KSU187]

If obama wins, this would be an obamanation! 

[mjrod]

Hell, I would consider voting for Bloomberg depending on his Iraq timetable.  He pretty much is a mainstream Dem, but with better free trade positions.

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

I think, philosophically, that candidate would be arguing with itself all day long.

[steve dave]

Hell, I would consider voting for Bloomberg depending on his Iraq timetable.  He pretty much is a mainstream Dem, but with better free trade positions.

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

I think, philosophically, that candidate would be arguing with itself all day long.

Why?  Let people do whatever they want but make them pay for it on their own.  It is the platform that about half the libertarian candidates have run under.  It is also steve dave approved.

[Kat Kid]

Hell, I would consider voting for Bloomberg depending on his Iraq timetable.  He pretty much is a mainstream Dem, but with better free trade positions.

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

I think, philosophically, that candidate would be arguing with itself all day long.

It would be a candidacy founded in liberty.  I could see why you would fear that.

[catdude33]

This thread makes me feel dumb.  I need to start watching CNN instead of "Rob and Big" reruns on MTV2.

What are Rudy Guliani's chances looking like?

[ChicagoCat]

This thread makes me feel dumb.  I need to start watching CNN instead of "Rob and Big" reruns on MTV2.

What are Rudy Guliani's chances looking like?

If you're rooting for Rudy you will probably feel better continuing watching Rob and Big.

[kougar24]

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

[steve dave]

fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate? 

clearly

[PCR]

If Kansans are complaining about the candidates then things must be looking pretty good.  Nobody is ever going to find a perfect candidate for everyone, but I think the Dems have some pretty good choices this time.  Hillbomawards >>> John Kerry. 

I'm sorta against Hillary for a couple of significant reasons--the Dynasty factor, and the fact that she voted for the War.  Obama doesn't have these marks against him, and he's a far more compelling figure.  Hillary represents the voice of reason and Obama represents the voice of the next generation.  We're really seeing the Internet generation vs. the old guard in politics.  I'd like Obama to be more specific on issues, but in the end who am I really going to agree with on everything anyway?  I trust him and I believe what he says, so that's a pretty good start.  He may not have all the answers going in to it, but he's smart enough to do the research and think deeply about complex problems. 

Or maybe he's just the type of guy who goes on coke benders.  That's probably a fair and reasonable statement.   

[AzCat]

I also think the landscape would change greatly if Obama were white ....

Yes it would.  If Obama were white he'd be just another nameless Senator from the midwest with absolutely no shot at even a cabinet position much less the whole enchilada.  He's a wonderful public speaker but let's face reality: the whole cult of personality surrounding him sprung up almost entirely because he is black.  Or half-black.  Or something other than white.

[steve dave]

I also think the landscape would change greatly if Obama were white ....

Yes it would.  If Obama were white he'd be just another nameless Senator from the midwest with absolutely no shot at even a cabinet position much less the whole enchilada.  He's a wonderful public speaker but let's face reality: the whole cult of personality surrounding him sprung up almost entirely because he is black.  Or half-black.  Or something other than white.

Don't you have a cross burning to get to or something.

[Skycat]

I'll vote for whomever Steve Dave votes for.

(Seriously)

[steve dave]

I'll vote for whomever Steve Dave votes for.

(Seriously)

I gotta say I agree with Skycat on this one

[Kat Kid]

I also think the landscape would change greatly if Obama were white ....

Yes it would.  If Obama were white he'd be just another nameless Senator from the midwest with absolutely no shot at even a cabinet position much less the whole enchilada.  He's a wonderful public speaker but let's face reality: the whole cult of personality surrounding him sprung up almost entirely because he is black.  Or half-black.  Or something other than white.

You're right.  Affirmative Action has even penetrated our Presidential contests!  There is no quarter for the white man in 21st century America, not even the WHITE house!

[PCR]

KKK rally @Azcat's house this Friday!  Topics will include whether the Eagles should keep McNabb or trade him, and whether or not black people should be allowed to vote.  Cookies and Punch will be provided, but bring your own torch.   

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

The nation is ready to elect a black man.

But not a woman. Unless its Oprah.

Hillary winning the nomination means automatic Republican win. Obama is the chosen one.

I have spoken.

[sys]

clinton vs. hucksy is an automatic bloomberg presidency.  clinton vs. either of the other 2 would make it interesting.

[Kat Kid]

clinton vs. hucksy is an automatic bloomberg presidency.  clinton vs. either of the other 2 would make it interesting.

Bloomberg would note win the presidency in that scenario unless he promised 1 term and had Obama as his running mate waiting in the wings.  Even that would require an insurgency among rank and file dem/rep party members on levels that we have never seen EVER.  I like Bloomberg, but come on.

[sys]

there are tons of liberals that refuse to vote clinton.  the same w. huckabee and moderate repubs.


automatic win might be too strong, but there would be a huge opening there.  huge.