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December 30, 2007, 02:43:18 PM
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On November 4, The Ohio State was ranked No. 1 in America by both the Harris Poll people and the USA Today coaches. They were ranked No. 1 by most of the computers that are used in the BCS system as well.

The reason for this, apparently, is that The Ohio State was undefeated. At that point, the Buckeyes did not have a single victory over any of the Top 25 teams in the BCS. They had just mauled Wisconsin at home, which seemed reasonably impressive, although Wisconsin had already been mauled by Penn State, which had just lost to Illinois, which lost to Iowa.

On November 4, Kansas was ranked No. 5 in America by both the Harris Poll people and the USA Today coaches. The computers thought even more of the Jayhawks, ranking them fourth. Kansas was also undefeated, and had just hung up 76 points on Nebraska at home, the most points ever scored against the Cornhuskers.

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On November 11, The Ohio State was ranked No. 7 in America by both the Harris Bowl people and the USA Today coaches. The Buckeyes were ranked sixth by the computers. They had just lost at home to an unranked Illinois team. Since the Buckeyes did not have a single impressive victory and since they had loaded up their non-conference schedule with smaller Ohio schools to beat up on, most people assumed that Ohio State was out of the national championship picture.

On November 11, Kansas was ranked No. 4 by the Harris Bowl people and the USA Today coaches, but they were ranked No. 2 by the computers. The Jayhakws had just beaten bowl-bound Oklahoma State by two touchdowns in Stillwater on national television. The writers, clearly, still thought the Jayhawks were pretenders, and had them ranked behind three one-loss teams — LSU, Oregon and Oklahoma.

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On November 18, The Ohio State was ranked No. 5 in America by both the Harris Bowl people and the USA Today coaches. They were tied for third with the computers. They had earned this jump by winning at Michigan 14-3 in one of the most boring games ever played. It was Michigan’s fourth loss of the season, their third loss in the Big House, and shortly after the game ended, Wolverines coach Lloyd Carr stepped down.

On November 18, Kansas was ranked No. 2 by the Harris Bowl people and the USA Today coaches (are these guys cribbing off each other?) and also ranked No. 2 by the computers. The Jayhawks had just obliterated Iowa State 45-7, though this was not the reason for the jump. Two teams in front of them had lost their quarterbacks and lost to BCS unrakned teams — Oregon lost to Arizona by 10 and Oklahoma had given up 34 points and lost at Texas Tech by a touchdown. The Jayhawks were still undefeated, and still behind one-loss LSU in the polls.

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On November 25, The Ohio State was ranked No. 3 by the Harrisers, the coaches, and the computers. The Buckeyes had faced idle during the week, but they moved up two spots because LSU lost to unranked Arkansas at home, while Kansas had lost to Missouri. It could be pointed out here that Kansas’ loss seems SIGNIFICANTLY better than Ohio State’s loss to Illinois when you consider that:

1. Missouri would be ranked No. 1 by everybody except the coaches while Illinois was unranked.
2. The Missouri loss was on a neutral site in Kansas City, while Ohio State’s loss to Illinois was at home.
3. Missouri actually BEAT Illinois on a neutral site this year.

No matter. The Ohio State moved up to No. 3.

On November 25, Kansas was ranked No. 6 by the Harris Bowl voters, they tied for fifth in the coaches’ poll, and they were ranked fourth by the computers. It almost seems now like people were just DYING to move Kansas down in the polls. A loss to No. 1 Missouri on a neutral field seemed a good enough excuse, apparently.

LSU, incidentally, ranked seventh in the BCS after its loss to Arkansas. Below Kansas, you will note.

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On December 2nd, The Ohio State was ranked No. 1 by the Harris Bowl voters, by the USA Today coaches. They apparently had moved up the two spots because of their second consecutive impressive victory over idle, this time in the nonexistent Big 10 Championship Game. The computers, being silly computers, were not as impressed as others by the Buckeyes victory over nobody and kept The Ohio State ranked third.

The Buckeyes, by virtue of the BCS system, was ranked the overall No. 1 team.

Kansas, however, did not fare as well against idle. Apparently, despite not playing anyone, Kansas actually FELL in the Harris Poll and the USA Today coaches poll from 5/6 to 8/8. The Jayhawks also dropped from forth to fifth in the computer rankings. The reason for this seemed to be that Missouri lost to Oklahoma, thus devaluing the Kansas loss.

Of course, Missouri — as mentioned — had also beaten Illinois, which had beaten Ohio State in Columbus. But nobody really wanted to do the math on that.

LSU jumped from No. 7 to No. 2 with its apparently impressive 21-14 victory over Tennessee. It wasn’t as impressive as Alabama’s 41-17 victory over Tennessee, but so it goes …

Our final standings are as follows.

Ohio State
Record: 11-1
Home record: 6-1
Best win: Over Wisconsin at home.
Loss: Against three-loss Illinois at home.
Victories over bowl teams: Five.
Final ranking: No. 1.

Kansas
Record: 11-1
Home record: 7-0
Best win: At Texas A&M.
Loss: Against two-loss Missouri team on neutral.
Victories over bowl teams: Four.
Final ranking: No. 8.

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http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2007/12/04/a-bcs-timeline/

JoePo proceeds to put a clown suit on all the haters out there (K-State/Mizzou fans).  Thanks for the laughs guys.  Enjoy your bowl season sitting at home.  One more day until I leave for Miami, FL. 

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« Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 07:23:43 PM by BMWHjawk »

December 30, 2007, 02:45:51 PM
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so, your schedule sucked and it kept you out of the title game.  Not earthshattering.

December 30, 2007, 02:47:07 PM
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J.C.  You do realize no one will read that novel don't you?

You honestly become more stupid by the day.  I've heard of that happening before, but never witnessed it until now.

December 30, 2007, 02:50:24 PM
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WTF are you bitching about?   You should feel extremely lucky to be in a BCS bowl.
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December 30, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
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December 30, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
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Dude, stop complaining at least you got a BCS bowl.

December 30, 2007, 05:13:05 PM
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On November 4, The Ohio State was ranked No. 1 in America by both the Harris Poll people and the USA Today coaches. They were ranked No. 1 by most of the computers that are used in the BCS system as well.

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December 30, 2007, 05:40:03 PM
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One more day until I leave for Miami, FL.

Don't believe it.

December 30, 2007, 06:10:58 PM
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The Nits badly want and need an arch rival.  Many of their fans want it to be tOSU but the Bucks are mostly uninterested.

Serves Paterno right for running away from their long series vs Pitt.

December 30, 2007, 06:22:01 PM
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I'm confused, what did that novel have to do with Joe Pa?  Did he write that?  I didn't see any quotes from him while I skimmed it...

December 30, 2007, 06:25:07 PM
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December 30, 2007, 06:27:07 PM
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Joe Pa proceeds to put a clown suit on all the haters out there (K-State/Mizzou fans).

Incomplete list.


If ku doesn't beat VT...your best season in 100 years will have nothing of significance to attach to it other than you broke your embarrassing losing streak in Manhattan. Not even a North Title. Oh, that's right, you are "co-champs" with Missou. LOL. Even though they beat you on a neutral site.

Have fun in Miami, unless you are full of crap.
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December 30, 2007, 06:40:28 PM
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I'm confused, what did that novel have to do with Joe Pa?  Did he write that?  I didn't see any quotes from him while I skimmed it...

Beemer tried to come over and talk football with the big boys again, and once again fracked up.   Because of his complete lack of football knowledge, he applied the nickname of the legendary coach of a proud football program to a sportswriter.

Have a good time at the game, Beemer.  Remember that when a tranny offers you a "good time" there in Miami, it's not because he finds you attractive.  You're still going to have to pay.
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December 30, 2007, 06:52:32 PM
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I'm confused, what did that novel have to do with Joe Pa?  Did he write that?  I didn't see any quotes from him while I skimmed it...

Beemer tried to come over and talk football with the big boys again, and once again fracked up.   Because of his complete lack of football knowledge, he applied the nickname of the legendary coach of a proud football program to a sportswriter.

Have a good time in Miami, Beemer.  Remember that when a tranny offers you a "good time" there in Miami, it's not because he finds you attractive.  You're still going to have to pay.

That makes alot more sense.  Joe Pa isn't exactly the kind of guy to call out other programs like that.  Jesus BMW is a douch bag.  Anyone care to place an over/under on the number of times he posts on this board while he's "in Miami?"  Also acceptable would be a poll on the excuse BMW uses after Va Tech (Who, I believe, is coached by the future hall of fame coach, Mel Kiper.) exposes ku as the fraud they really are.

December 30, 2007, 07:29:18 PM
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I'm confused, what did that novel have to do with Joe Pa?  Did he write that?  I didn't see any quotes from him while I skimmed it...

Beemer tried to come over and talk football with the big boys again, and once again fracked up.   Because of his complete lack of football knowledge, he applied the nickname of the legendary coach of a proud football program to a sportswriter.

Have a good time in Miami, Beemer.  Remember that when a tranny offers you a "good time" there in Miami, it's not because he finds you attractive.  You're still going to have to pay.

That makes alot more sense.  Joe Pa isn't exactly the kind of guy to call out other programs like that.  Jesus BMW is a douch bag.  Anyone care to place an over/under on the number of times he posts on this board while he's "in Miami?"  Also acceptable would be a poll on the excuse BMW uses after Va Tech (Who, I believe, is coached by the future hall of fame coach, Mel Kiper.) exposes ku as the fraud they really are.


What's the over/under on the number of times your brothers make fun of you for going to K-State?  It's just funny that a ren.own.ed journalist backs Kansas while you clowns continue to spout off about a team you obviously know nothing about.  Enjoy sitting at home watching Kansas play in the Orange Bowl.  I'm sure if Va Tech wins it will be K-State's biggest win of the season.  The powercat nation will be out in full force, hyping up that joke of a recruiting class and that joke of a coaching staff you've assembled there in Manhattan.

I know one thing... it can't be comforting to realize that a basketball school has passed you guys in football, and it only took a few years.  Just imagine what Kansas can do now with a $31 million football facility and the National Coach of the Year.  The gap will continue to widen further in Kansas' favor until K-State pulls the plug on the Ron Prince experiment and finds themselves a coach who knows how to build a football program.   

December 30, 2007, 07:37:50 PM
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If anything, you just showed the Big 10 is overrated...much like ku's football team this year.  I don't think we're saying you're not good, you're just not as good as you think you are.  Again, huge surprise there. :rolleyes:

December 30, 2007, 08:28:14 PM
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I'm sure if Va Tech wins it will be K-State's biggest win of the season.

No, we beat a Top 10 team on the road. You?


Answer this question? When was the last time ku beat a Top 10 team?


You'll get your shot next week.
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December 30, 2007, 08:44:29 PM
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I'm sure if Va Tech wins it will be K-State's biggest win of the season.

No, we beat a Top 10 team on the road. You?


Answer this question? When was the last time ku beat a Top 10 team?


You'll get your shot next week.
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December 30, 2007, 08:56:53 PM
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Best win: At Texas A&M.

Seriously?  Your best win was over a 7-6 team?  I knew your schedule was pathetic, but I honestly didn't realize until now that it was this bad.

Meanwhile Ohio State beat Wisconsin (9-3, possibly 10-3), Michigan (8-4, possibly 9-4), Penn State (9-4, beat Texas A&M), Purdue (8-5), and Michigan State (7-6).


December 30, 2007, 09:40:43 PM
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ku's SOS was 109th...prior to A&M losing to Penn State.


Do you think Ohio State's is 110th or lower?
"You guys want answers that are conversations between John and I. I ain't worried about it. I'm living the dream.... When I start worrying about a contract, I'd be cheating the kids and not doing my job." - Frank Martin

December 30, 2007, 09:52:51 PM
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Bookcat brought the pain! TOUCHE... thanks for the read I am no longer suffering from insomnia. And with their BEST season in 100 yrs, ku (under Mangina) has LEAPED to .500. Congratulations! BTW, I am sure that the Beaks will appreciate your help in picking up the teeth that VT is going to colletively kick out of your team. MU got jobbed, everyone knows it - so just drop down on your knees (a familiar pose for Beaks everywhere) and thank your lucky stars that you are in a BCS game.

December 30, 2007, 11:34:00 PM
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ku's SOS was 109th...prior to A&M losing to Penn State.


Do you think Ohio State's is 110th or lower?


That's completely false. 

The Sagarin ratings put our SOS at 88

Anderson & Hester at 67

Colley Matrix at 89

The Massey Ratings at 69.

So, among the BCS computer models that show our SOS, our average ranking is 78.25. 

If Texas was top 10, K-State was top 25.  Just based off of your own logic.


December 30, 2007, 11:52:19 PM
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you didn't know who jo pa was.

lol

December 31, 2007, 12:23:59 AM
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I didn't read all the Posnanski piece, but damn it's shocking to read a KC Star columnist sticking up for ku.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I am sure squawktardlogic has determined all media feels the same way.




December 31, 2007, 12:30:38 AM
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Is Joe POS really trying to say that ku played a tougher schedule Than tOSU? Wow that would be Danny Clinkscale stupid.

Weren't the ku clowns over here last week saying that Sutton and Samuels wouldn't get through the clearinghouse because the NCAA was gettig ready to drop the hammer on KSU? Man those guys need to get a life.

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December 31, 2007, 01:31:32 AM
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LOL @ bmw's low FBIQ.

"Joe pa calls out Ohio State."

More LOLz at him editing later to try and hide his shame.

December 31, 2007, 01:42:58 AM
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LOL @ bmw's low FBIQ.

"Joe pa calls out Ohio State."

More LOLz at him editing later to try and hide his shame.

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QFT.  Every time he says "Joe Posnanski" or "JoePo" in his edited piece, he had "Joe Pa" before.  It was a masterpiece of low FBIQ.

Next thing we know, Beemer will be calling Mangino "The Fridge."
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December 31, 2007, 03:29:20 AM
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Soooo Beemer..... tell us how it feels to be the #1 douchebag! LOL




No, really! You are!

December 31, 2007, 06:46:55 AM
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Is Joe POS really trying to say that ku played a tougher schedule Than tOSU? Wow that would be Danny Clinkscale stupid.

THAT made my day... big belly laughs!

December 31, 2007, 07:49:33 AM
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Dude, stop complaining ON A K-STATE BOARD at least you got a BCS bowl.