http://texastech.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/100601aaa.html
next win over South on the road?
http://www.aggieathletics.com/games.php?SID=MFB&SSID=2157
risen?
Wow, Hatter. That's a huge reach.
So TA beat Texas Tech on the road. Okay. He also lost to SMU, got embarrassed at home by San Diego State, and fielded a team full of 1-AA talent in his final year on campus.
What, exactly, are you trying to argue here? That Mark Mangino walked into a quality situation when he accepted this job?
Come on. Rivalry smack aside, you know better than that.
I think he's trying to argue that it took your coach 6 f-ing years to finally beat a south team not named Baylor.
In contrast, Ron Prince accomplished that in his 10th game as head coach.
Yes, fatty. The situations that Prince inherited and Mangino inherited are totally comparable.
Funny. What were you idiots predicting for KSU/Prince before 2006?
Doom and Gloom, obviously, which had less to do with the fact that KSU's on-the-field talent wasn't up to snuff (Though clearly it wasn't at the level Snyder had it during his heyday) and more to do with the fact that most of us simply didn't think Ron Prince was a very good coach. The Virginia fans were hardly sobbing over his loss. Clearly, the guy can coach, and I've said as much over on Phog multiple times.
There's a distinct difference, Fatty, in taking over a job that's been steeped in mediocrity in every aspect of the game for several years, and taking one that has had a couple of down seasons. Prince had an excited and loyal fanbase, solid facilities, and a pretty good name with which to recruit. Mark Mangino had a D-1AA team, a fanbase that still has a hard time understanding that games are played outside of Allen Fieldhouse, no facilities whatsoever, and a name that meant d*ck to recruits.
I fully understand that when Bill Snyder retired the KSU program wasn't in the best of shape, comparable to 2003. No matter any way you slice it though, the program Mangino took over was far worse. Records aren't the only indicator of a program's stability.