Last time KSU was 7-0?

[michigancat]

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/KansasState.htm

1999.

I was worried it would be 98.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/KansasState.htm

1999.

I was worried it would be 98.

Yes, but KSU did not go 7-0 under Snyder UNTIL 1998.  Mangino is way ahead of the curve. 

[michigancat]

Only went 7-0 twice.

[catzacker]

Ironically, between the '98 and '99 years , all we had to show for was one North Division championship and one bowl game win. 

[pufizzle]

Because we start off ever fracking year on the road in Big 12.  Seriously, wtf dude?

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Only went 7-0 twice.

The thing that scares me the most about ku's run this year is that they will have almost everyone back next year.  They have achieved a very Snyder-esque reloading status with sure things coming back year after year.  In contrast, KSU is in a "patch together a so-so team status" year after year with jucos, diamonds in the rough, and possible non-qualifiers.  Not a good trend.  

[pufizzle]

Only went 7-0 twice.

The thing that scares me the most about ku's run this year is that they will have almost everyone back next year.  They have achieved a very Snyder-esque reloading status with sure things coming back year after year.  In contrast, KSU is in a "patch together a so-so team status" year after year with jucos, diamonds in the rough, and possible non-qualifiers.  Not a good trend.  

Dude, it's Prince's 2nd year on the job.

[michigancat]

I can't tell when JS is serious any more, (if he ever is).

[fatty fat fat]

I can't tell when JS is serious any more, (if he ever is).

he's part of the ku inferiority ksu fans. (zacker, cire)

just garbage posters imo.

[sonofdaxjones]

The thing I am enjoying is the comparisons to Snyder are once again the big talk of Squawkville.  

10 years prior to Mangino ku won 54 games, in the 10 years prior to Snyder, KSU won 23 games.  

What a god Lsnyder was.

[yosh]

How many times did we play 6 of the first 7 in the state of Kansas?

[fatty fat fat]

How many times did we play 6 of the first 7 in the state of Kansas?

err...2000

[kougar24]

Because we start off ever fracking year on the road in Big 12.  Seriously, wtf dude?

Remind me where ku opened up Big XII play this year...

[JesusShuttlesworth]

I can't tell when JS is serious any more, (if he ever is).

he's part of the ku inferiority ksu fans. (zacker, cire)

just garbage posters imo.

Come on dude.  Garbage poster?  That's a little harsh.  I don't have an inferiority complex about ku.  That's why I'm able to discuss the facts without ignoring the reality of the situation.  I suppose I could just pump purple sunshine all day, but that's just not my style.  I'm a realist.  Here is reality:

KSU is losing:

No   Name   Pos   Yr   Ex   Meas
2   Marcus Watts   DB   Sr.   4V   6-1/191
3   Bryan Baldwin   DB   Sr.   4V   5-10/190
6   Byron Garvin   DB   Sr.   4V   5-10/180
8   James Johnson   RB   Sr.   2V   5-11/200
17   Tim Reyer   P   Sr.   4V   5-11/208
21   Cole Brokenicky   K   Sr.   SQ   5-10/197
22   Justin McKinney   CB   Sr.   3V   5-9/185
25   Toney Coleman   WR   Sr.   4V   6-1/193
26   Terry Petrie   RB   Sr.   2V   5-8/183
26   Tim Schwerdt   K   Sr.   3V   5-8/174
27   Jordy Nelson   WR   Sr.   4V   6-2/213
33   Greg Gaskins   LB   Sr.   4V   6-0/219
35   Heath Alexander   WR   Sr.   2V   5-11/190
37   Marcus Perry   LB   Sr.   4V   6-1/225
41   Steve Mathias   LB   Sr.   2V   6-0/222
51   Justin Roland   LB   Sr.   2V   6-0/245
65   Logan Robinson   OL   Sr.   4V   6-8/338
82   Michael Pooschke   TE   Sr.   2V   6-3/245
83   Daniel Gonzalez   WR   Sr.   2V   6-3/216
89   Rashaad Norwood   TE   Sr.   4V   6-3/229
91   Clayton Cox   DT   Sr.   SQ   6-3/238
95   Rob Jackson   DE   Sr.   2V   6-3/265
96   Moses Manu   DE   Sr.   2V   6-2/258
99   Steven Cline   DL   Sr.   4V   6-1/291


ku is losing:

No   Name   Pos   Yr   Ex   Meas
4   Gary Green   CB   Sr.   2V   5-9/175
15   Kyle Tucker   P   Sr.   3V   6-2/210
19   Brian Seymour   S   Sr.   2V   6-1/190
27   Sadiq Muhammed   S   Sr.   2V   6-0/190
35   Brandon McAnderson   FB   Sr.   3V   6-0/235
39   Scott Webb   K   Sr.   3V   5-11/180
49   Derek Spears   TE   Sr.   2V   6-3/215
65   Cesar Rodriguez   OT   Sr.   3V   6-7/290
67   Rameses Arceo   OG   Sr.   SQ   6-4/300
75   Marcus Anderson   DT   Sr.   1V   6-4/290
82   Jeff Foster   WR   Sr.   2V   6-2/195
83   Marc Jones   TE   Sr.   JC   6-4/250
85   Derek Fine   TE   Sr.   3V   6-3/245
86   Marcus Henry   WR   Sr.   3V   6-4/210
93   James McClinton   DT   Sr.   3V   6-1/285


Now, which group of departing players has had a bigger impact on their respective team's success this year?  I'm not saying that KSU won't fill the losses effectively, but you have to admit that it is an uphill climb for us at least in the near term.  

I realize that Prince is in year 2.  I have no problem with Prince.  He is re-building a recruiting base and program that, quite frankly, Bill Snyder allowed to deteriorate to unacceptable levels.  Bill Snyder and his inept staff are a big part of the potential problems we are currently looking at in year 3 of the Prince era.

[michigancat]

How many times did we play 6 of the first 7 in the state of Kansas?

err...2000

2002, 1998

[yosh]

How many times did we play 6 of the first 7 in the state of Kansas?

err...2000

looked it up:  '98, '02 and ...last year   

[pufizzle]

Because we start off ever fracking year on the road in Big 12.  Seriously, wtf dude?

Remind me where ku opened up Big XII play this year...

Remind me where KSU has opened up the last 10 years. 

[michigancat]

I can't tell when JS is serious any more, (if he ever is).

he's part of the ku inferiority ksu fans. (zacker, cire)

just garbage posters imo.

Come on dude.  Garbage poster?  That's a little harsh.  I don't have an inferiority complex about ku.  That's why I'm able to discuss the facts without ignoring the reality of the situation.  I suppose I could just pump purple sunshine all day, but that's just not my style.  I'm a realist.  Here is reality:

KSU is losing:

No   Name   Pos   Yr   Ex   Meas
2   Marcus Watts   DB   Sr.   4V   6-1/191
3   Bryan Baldwin   DB   Sr.   4V   5-10/190
6   Byron Garvin   DB   Sr.   4V   5-10/180
8   James Johnson   RB   Sr.   2V   5-11/200
17   Tim Reyer   P   Sr.   4V   5-11/208
21   Cole Brokenicky   K   Sr.   SQ   5-10/197
22   Justin McKinney   CB   Sr.   3V   5-9/185
25   Toney Coleman   WR   Sr.   4V   6-1/193
26   Terry Petrie   RB   Sr.   2V   5-8/183
26   Tim Schwerdt   K   Sr.   3V   5-8/174
27   Jordy Nelson   WR   Sr.   4V   6-2/213
33   Greg Gaskins   LB   Sr.   4V   6-0/219
35   Heath Alexander   WR   Sr.   2V   5-11/190
37   Marcus Perry   LB   Sr.   4V   6-1/225
41   Steve Mathias   LB   Sr.   2V   6-0/222
51   Justin Roland   LB   Sr.   2V   6-0/245
65   Logan Robinson   OL   Sr.   4V   6-8/338
82   Michael Pooschke   TE   Sr.   2V   6-3/245
83   Daniel Gonzalez   WR   Sr.   2V   6-3/216
89   Rashaad Norwood   TE   Sr.   4V   6-3/229
91   Clayton Cox   DT   Sr.   SQ   6-3/238
95   Rob Jackson   DE   Sr.   2V   6-3/265
96   Moses Manu   DE   Sr.   2V   6-2/258
99   Steven Cline   DL   Sr.   4V   6-1/291


ku is losing:

No   Name   Pos   Yr   Ex   Meas
4   Gary Green   CB   Sr.   2V   5-9/175
15   Kyle Tucker   P   Sr.   3V   6-2/210
19   Brian Seymour   S   Sr.   2V   6-1/190
27   Sadiq Muhammed   S   Sr.   2V   6-0/190
35   Brandon McAnderson   FB   Sr.   3V   6-0/235
39   Scott Webb   K   Sr.   3V   5-11/180
49   Derek Spears   TE   Sr.   2V   6-3/215
65   Cesar Rodriguez   OT   Sr.   3V   6-7/290
67   Rameses Arceo   OG   Sr.   SQ   6-4/300
75   Marcus Anderson   DT   Sr.   1V   6-4/290
82   Jeff Foster   WR   Sr.   2V   6-2/195
83   Marc Jones   TE   Sr.   JC   6-4/250
85   Derek Fine   TE   Sr.   3V   6-3/245
86   Marcus Henry   WR   Sr.   3V   6-4/210
93   James McClinton   DT   Sr.   3V   6-1/285


Now, which group of departing players has had a bigger impact on their respective team's success this year?  I'm not saying that KSU won't fill the losses effectively, but you have to admit that it is an uphill climb for us at least in the near term. 

I realize that Prince is in year 2.  I have no problem with Prince.  He is re-building a recruiting base and program that, quite frankly, Bill Snyder allowed to deteriorate to unacceptable levels.  Bill Snyder and his inept staff are a big part of the potential problems we are currently looking at in year 3 of the Prince era.

If you don't have an inferiority complex, why are you "scared"?

Or is this like when you said Snyder should be OC. 

[JesusShuttlesworth]

If you don't have an inferiority complex, why are you "scared"?

Or is this like when you said Snyder should be OC. 

Isn't it a little scary that we lose so much, they lose very little, we've lost to them two years in a row, and we play them at their place next year?  If that doesn't at least concern you, you must be either in complete denial or you are dead. 

Obviously, the Sndyer OC thing was a joke.  I've been around for quite a while.  I'm sorry if you don't get my sense of humor yet.  I guess I need to work on my delivery. 

[fatty fat fat]

Obviously, the Snyer OC thing was a joke.  I've been around for quite a while.  I'm sorry if you don't get my sense of humor yet.  I guess I need to work on my delivery.

you should start a gp hate thread.

garbage poster.

[michigancat]

If you don't have an inferiority complex, why are you "scared"?

Or is this like when you said Snyder should be OC. 

Isn't it a little scary that we lose so much, they lose very little, we've lost to them two years in a row, and we play them at their place next year?  If that doesn't at least concern you, you must be either in complete denial or you are dead. 

Obviously, the Sndyer OC thing was a joke.  I've been around for quite a while.  I'm sorry if you don't get my sense of humor yet.  I guess I need to work on my delivery. 

You're just scared of losing a game?  I'm more scared of losing to OU and Tech, personally. 

And your humor, or lack thereof, is just weird lately.

[sonofdaxjones]

I think part of the issue KSU is having on defense is the fact that a lot of guys are playing, lots of 2's and even 3's in there in key situations . . . so while that's painful at times now, it may pay off in the future.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Obviously, the Snyer OC thing was a joke.  I've been around for quite a while.  I'm sorry if you don't get my sense of humor yet.  I guess I need to work on my delivery.

you should start a gp hate thread.

garbage poster.

Don't you have some garbage posts to start over on tigerboard?  

delusional poster.

[yosh]

Now, which group of departing players has had a bigger impact on their respective team's success this year?  I'm not saying that KSU won't fill the losses effectively, but you have to admit that it is an uphill climb for us at least in the near term.  

I realize that Prince is in year 2.  I have no problem with Prince.  He is re-building a recruiting base and program that, quite frankly, Bill Snyder allowed to deteriorate to unacceptable levels.  Bill Snyder and his inept staff are a big part of the potential problems we are currently looking at in year 3 of the Prince era.

So, you worried about losing all the seniors (mostly Snyder recruits), but it's Snyder's fault for our current problems.  I mean, if all our current woes are Snyder's fault, shouldn't you be happy to get all these SRs out of here and replace them with Prince recruits?  Which is it?

 

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Sorry to have struck so many nerves.  I will refrain from posting reality based information in the future. 

KSU BIG 12 CHAMPS 2007-08!!!!! 

FIESTA HERE WE COME!!!

 

[pissclams]

poster fight!

[michigancat]

Sorry to have struck so many nerves.  I will refrain from posting reality based information in the future. 

KSU BIG 12 CHAMPS 2007-08!!!!! 

FIESTA HERE WE COME!!!

 

You're more scared of losing to Kansas next year than Tech and OU, (and Mizzou, for that matter)?

[KSt8er]

The  In contrast, KSU is in a "patch together a so-so team status" year after year with jucos, diamonds in the rough, and possible non-qualifiers.

Isn't this exactly how Snyder built his teams?  Or is this humor?

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Sorry to have struck so many nerves.  I will refrain from posting reality based information in the future. 

KSU BIG 12 CHAMPS 2007-08!!!!! 

FIESTA HERE WE COME!!!

 

You're more scared of losing to Kansas next year than Tech and OU, (and Mizzou, for that matter)?

Maybe scared isn't quite the correct word.  How about nauseous at the prospect of its occurrence (or should I say recurrence)?

[kougar24]

Because we start off ever fracking year on the road in Big 12.  Seriously, wtf dude?

Remind me where ku opened up Big XII play this year...

Remind me where KSU has opened up the last 10 years. 

Your point was completely nullified. Now is the time to let it drop. HTH.