If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...

[Bookcat]

until then, it's showing more and more than ever that even as we near November...ku has yet to play a team that anyone could consider good. That includes us at 4-3.

@A&M, MIzzou in Arrowhead....there is their season. It was a quick one wasn't it?


Which harkens back to the criticsm we still face to this DAY after we pimp our 8-0 conference record from 1998. The Big 12 was "down" that year and that we didn't play the conference heavyweights on our way to the Conference Division Championship, choked, and got booted out of the clique.

add in a weak OOC schedule..and I'll be gotdamned if the Jayhawks are the decade later version of the Kstate wildcats. Difference being they are on the winning side this time. They'll lose late in the year to someone good and tumble from relevancy. Bump this either way when the time comes.

[fatty fat fat]

KSUFans.com

[BMWJhawk]

First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

[Bookcat]

First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

I didn't say undefeated...but you better hope that is what happens or ku will be dropped like a safe. That's the point.

[yosh]

ku has done enough to prove to me that they are a legit top 20 team. 

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

[Legore]

First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

If ku beats A&M they are officially legit in my eyes.  Beating CU doesn't make you legit because CU isn't very good.   Beating KSU didn't make ku legit either because it lined up perfectly on the scheudle for ku and KSU while better then CU isn't all that good and played like crap that day.

IF ku goes into A&M the week after a semi tough road games vs. CU and pulls out a win against a solid A&M team in a very tough venue then I'll give them props.   It will take a legit top 25 team to win down there.   

[hemmy]

until then, it's showing more and more than ever that even as we near November...ku has yet to play a team that anyone could consider good. That includes us at 4-3.

@A&M, MIzzou in Arrowhead....there is their season. It was a quick one wasn't it?


Which harkens back to the criticsm we still face to this DAY after we pimp our 8-0 conference record from 1998. The Big 12 was "down" that year and that we didn't play the conference heavyweights on our way to the Conference Division Championship, choked, and got booted out of the clique.

add in a weak OOC schedule..and I'll be gotdamned if the Jayhawks are the decade later version of the Kstate wildcats. Difference being they are on the winning side this time. They'll lose late in the year to someone good and tumble from relevancy. Bump this either way when the time comes.

Except the fact that the '98 KSU team and this ku team are only comparable in record thus far.

A game btwn the 2 wouldn't even be close

[pissclams]

This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

you need to start listening to KK more if you think he's that bush league. his tactix are much sharper and trained than you give him credit for.

[fatty fat fat]

KK - "ku basketball this year should not lose a single regular season game. If they do, you've got to start questioning some people starting at the top..." BTL rolls along...

[sonofdaxjones]

The great thing about the Phog's strict attention to Keitzman's show is that I know exactly when I should tune in . . . I'd like to thank the phog for this public service.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

you need to start listening to KK more if you think he's that bush league. his tactix are much sharper and trained than you give him credit for.

I don't listen to him that often. But everytime I have tuned in he is indeed that bush league.

Fatty provides a good example actually. Its a simple tactic that he employs over and over again everytime.

[The Whale]

First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

There would be no question about ku's legitimacy had Mangino not gotten the MU game moved to the end of the season.  ku would've played MU then @KSU on back to back weeks.  Win those two, and there wouldn't be many doubters. 

Moving the game turned out to be a brilliant move though because ku has an excellent chance of going into MU unscathed while playing only one team near the top-25 (and they had a bye week to prepare for that team). 

[catzacker]

This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

ku fans can't claim to want respect and then not take the things that go along with it. If ku doesn't win the North it will be an incredible choke job.  ku has 5 games left (one of which would be against a currently ranked team)....2 home (ISU and NU), 2 away (A&M, OSU), 1 nuetral (MU).  All they have to do is win 3 games, one of which has to be MU.  And that's assuming MU doesn't lose another game.  That's it.  Seriously, it's a choke job if ku doesn't go to the Big 12 CCG.  

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

Seriously, it's a choke job if ku doesn't go to the Big 12 CCG. 

If anyone had said that before the start of the season they'd be laughed off the internet. It would be disappointing, but hardly a choke job. If Missouri wasn't any good than I could see your point but I can't right now.

Btw, if Ksu doesn't win out its a total choke job. All easy teams with anything remotely difficult being in Manhattan. Yeah, Prince should seek a new position elsewhere if he can't even pull this off. 

[catzacker]

KSU's a 3 loss team.  We suck. 

[sonofdaxjones]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

I was being sarcastic.

[sonofdaxjones]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

Ksu basketball fans.

Your move.

[sonofdaxjones]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

Ksu basketball fans.

Your move.

KSU averaged over 10,000 a game for conference games with Jim Wooldridge on the bench, at one point average attendance at ku dropped to under 9,000 a game just two years after winning the conference and going to the NCAA tourney. 

[Wickedson]

Ya'll, ku is going to beat Missouri.  Tellin you this, enough....

[Sandman]

So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

I remember the legions of KSU fans selling out all the home football games before Snyder arrived.  Hell, you could never find a ticket.

[KSUTOMMY]

I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think that I need to discuss the ease of which they get to tip toe through the Big 12 tulips this year, along with all the good points on this thread but specifically the piece about MU at the end of the year. Please Squaks, dont come to me with the Reesing for Heisman crap, Antwon Randle El was about a thousand times better than Reesing and he was on a $hitty team, ergo - no Heisman. Oh, remember when Marshall went undefeated a couple of years back? Yeah, to me, that is what ku is right now - Marshall of 2007, but due to the fact that you are in the Big 12 you finally did crack the top 10 7 GAMES INTO THE SEASON! Enough about being "back" because truth be told, you can never be BACK to somewhere you have never been. Enjoy the ferris wheel kiddies, I prefer roller coasters.

[Sandman]

I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think that I need to discuss the ease of which they get to tip toe through the Big 12 tulips this year, along with all the good points on this thread but specifically the piece about MU at the end of the year. Please Squaks, dont come to me with the Reesing for Heisman crap, Antwon Randle El was about a thousand times better than Reesing and he was on a $hitty team, ergo - no Heisman. Oh, remember when Marshall went undefeated a couple of years back? Yeah, to me, that is what ku is right now - Marshall of 2007, but due to the fact that you are in the Big 12 you finally did crack the top 10 7 GAMES INTO THE SEASON! Enough about being "back" because truth be told, you can never be BACK to somewhere you have never been. Enjoy the ferris wheel kiddies, I prefer roller coasters.

When has anyone said ku's back?  And yes, ku's just like Marshall.  You're not taking this well, are you?

[KSUTOMMY]

Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.

[Sandman]

Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.

I know.  Number 9 in the BCS is so stupid. 

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think have any.

Fixed.

[pissclams]

Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.

I know.  Number 9 in the BCS is so stupid. 

boasting about your #9 bcs ranking going into week 8 of a 12/13/14 week season is too.   hth.

[scoopeloo]

Here's the deal with ku.  ku will very likely go through an entire regular season and only play one team in the top 20.  And they will more than likely LOSE to the only top 20 team that they play.  Is that an accomplishment?  Yes.  An improvement?  Yes.  Are they better than KSU?  Probably.  But I have a hard time being that impressed when their schedule looks like Hawaii's.  It's not their fault that the Big 12 sucks and they missed OU and UT.  But I'll look forward to them hopefully playing a really good team in their bowl game.  Of course, that game will mean nothing to whoever they play.  Can you imagine how excited USC will be if they get matched with ku in the Holiday Bowl?