I'm curious what everyone thinks of the coaching and personnel..

[The Manhatter]

of the two flagship programs in the Big 12 in defending the run in these two games.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/texasam.html
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MFB_2144_TEXAS.HTM

Just interested to know if the coaching and/or personnel is good enough at these two programs.

Thanks in advance.

 

[fatty fat fat]

We have already given up 800 yards of rushing in conference play. 

[sonofdaxjones]

of the two flagship programs in the Big 12 in defending the run in these two games.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/texasam.html
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MFB_2144_TEXAS.HTM

Just interested to know if the coaching and/or personnel is good enough at these two programs.

Thanks in advance.

 

Those games relate to today in what form or fashion??

[Saulbadguy]

of the two flagship programs in the Big 12 in defending the run in these two games.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/texasam.html
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MFB_2144_TEXAS.HTM

Just interested to know if the coaching and/or personnel is good enough at these two programs.

Thanks in advance.

 

Those games relate to today in what form or fashion??

Manhatter vs Dax, i've been waiting for this for years!!! 

[catzacker]

I love how stopping the run isn't a big deal for teams that can't stop the run.  Every team that beats us turns into some exceptional team (except ku, that was a fluke).  Meanwhile, our LB haven't seen a tackle they couldn't miss on and our NT looks like he's playing in the secondary after the play is over.  But yeah, our personnel has nothing to do with it.  Neither is our DC's ability to figure out a way around the limitations of his personnel.  Phil Bennet got lambasted for blitzing his ass and leaving candy ass Cooper all by himself in coverage, somehow Tibs gets a free pass for doing the same. 

But we're 3rd in the conference in pass def eff!!!  Yippie. 

[The Manhatter]

of the two flagship programs in the Big 12 in defending the run in these two games.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/texasam.html
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MFB_2144_TEXAS.HTM

Just interested to know if the coaching and/or personnel is good enough at these two programs.

Thanks in advance.

 

Those games relate to today in what form or fashion??

Take what you want from that information.  The Aggies had the Big 12's best rushing attack that year...still one of the best.  Yet UT's national champ defense gave up about 340 knocking the net down quite a bit on sacks.  And OU couldn't stop it w/ NFL talent throughout the front 7.  Pelini and Chizik on the two defensive staffs.  Tejas had the 320lb style DT's we "need".

Yet this Aggie rushing Offense certainly didn't have a Brandon Pettigrew at TE, Bowman and Dez Bryant as receiving threats...or the speed of Robinson at QB.

I wonder if UGA had the defensive personnel or coaching when WVa ran for 500 on them in the Sugar Bowl?  Imagine that...an SEC champ?

Feel free to use the info any way you want...my point was that some of these rushing attacks...you don't just snap your fingers and stop them.  That is especially true when they have the weaponry at receiver to hit the long ball and do major damage if you load up against the run.

I'm not saying I'm satisfied or whatever...but it's not the end of the world either.     

[fatty fat fat]

of the two flagship programs in the Big 12 in defending the run in these two games.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/texasam.html
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MFB_2144_TEXAS.HTM

Just interested to know if the coaching and/or personnel is good enough at these two programs.

Thanks in advance.

 

Those games relate to today in what form or fashion??

Take what you want from that information.  The Aggies had the Big 12's best rushing attack that year...still one of the best.  Yet UT's national champ defense gave up about 340 knocking the net down quite a bit on sacks.  And OU couldn't stop it w/ NFL talent throughout the front 7.  Pelini and Chizik on the two defensive staffs.  Tejas had the 320lb style DT's we "need".

Yet this Aggie rushing Offense certainly didn't have a Brandon Pettigrew at TE, Bowman and Dez Bryant as receiving threats...or the speed of Robinson at QB.

I wonder if UGA had the defensive personnel or coaching when WVa ran for 500 on them in the Sugar Bowl?  Imagine that...an SEC champ?

Feel free to use the info any way you want...my point was that some of these rushing attacks...you don't just snap your fingers and stop them.  That is especially true when they have the weaponry at receiver to hit the long ball and do major damage if you load up against the run.

I'm not saying I'm satisfied or whatever...but it's not the end of the world either.     

Fantastic rebuttal. You've come a long way from the days when you'd just LOL the hell out of someone.

[michigancat]

Man, zacker always has the best/saddest meltdowns, depending on your perspective.

[fatty fat fat]

Man, zacker always has the best/saddest meltdowns, depending on your perspective.

where is his freeman avatar/caption combo?

[michigancat]

And why is "EYE" in all caps?

[The Manhatter]

...(except ku, that was a fluke)...But we're 3rd in the conference in pass def eff!!!  Yippie. 

Game.  Set.  Match....Zack-er Attack-er.

That was some mad  

I yield the floor.

[ksuno1stunner]

Prince needs to call the plays on defense too.

[catzacker]

Man, zacker always has the best/saddest meltdowns, depending on your perspective.

where is his freeman avatar/caption combo?

Tibs has pissed me off so much that I felt he deserved it more than updating the Freeman stats.  I'm just pissed and Tibs is an easy target.

[sonofdaxjones]

So, from here on out, KSU will be shutting down the rushing attack of all the teams left on the schedule??

I am just seeking clarity . . . because I am having a hard time connecting the dotted line from a couple of select games played by other teams and KSU's current rushing defense.

[catzacker]

Man, zacker always has the best/saddest meltdowns, depending on your perspective.

I would lean towards sad.  But unlike most meltdowns, it usually increases its intensity as the week goes on rather than decreasing and getting over it.  Mondays are terrible for me.  

[The Manhatter]

So, from here on out, KSU will be shutting down the rushing attack of all the teams left on the schedule??

I am just seeking clarity . . . because I am having a hard time connecting the dotted line from a couple of select games played by other teams and KSU's current rushing defense.

I don't know...we'll have to see.

It really isn't hard to connect the dots.  There has been a lot of bitching about "personnel" and "coaching"...I pointed out Chizik, Pelini, and the so-so talent of a national champ defense and OU(NFL talent everywhere).  But that is just me connecting dots and seeing that those two teams had a good rushing attack go right through them...and one that didn't possess the weaponry in the receiving corps to keep their secondary from loading the box the way they could against aTm.

Let me know if I need to further clarify the straightline between the glow in the dark dots.  Thanks.

[fatty fat fat]

Let me know if I need to further clarify the straightline between the glow in the dark dots.  Thanks.

  

[sonofdaxjones]

So, from here on out, KSU will be shutting down the rushing attack of all the teams left on the schedule??

I am just seeking clarity . . . because I am having a hard time connecting the dotted line from a couple of select games played by other teams and KSU's current rushing defense.

I don't know...we'll have to see.

It really isn't hard to connect the dots.  There has been a lot of bitching about "personnel" and "coaching"...I pointed out Chizik, Pelini, and the so-so talent of a national champ defense and OU(NFL talent everywhere).  But that is just me connecting dots and seeing that those two teams had a good rushing attack go right through them...and one that didn't possess the weaponry in the receiving corps to keep their secondary from loading the box the way they could against aTm.

Let me know if I need to further clarify the straightline between the glow in the dark dots.  Thanks.

Okay, again, through your projective, time shifting analysis, we have nothing to fear as KSU's fans about KSU's rush defense, because in a few select games NOT played by KSU, a good defense got run on easily.  

[ksu_FAN]

First, the complaining about personnel and coaching is normal message board fodder.  We do have some personnel issues and really shouldn't be surprised.  We do have to find something to fix it scheme-wise, which will be difficult.  Calling for any major moves right now is silly for a program that is still a work in progress.

Second, I see your point, but its far too much positive spin (GP-ish) for this board, and probably even for that one right now.  We have issues right now that must be corrected regardless whether other good/great defenses have been gashed by good option offenses in the past or not.

[The Manhatter]

Okay, again, through your projective, time shifting analysis, we have nothing to fear as KSU's fans about KSU's rush defense, because in a few select games NOT played by KSU, a good defense got run on easily.  

Not saying we have nothing to fear and not saying it's the end of the world either.  Just providing some info I thought might be handy when placing blame on "personnel" and/or "coaching".

It's not as though some of these rushing attacks...when they get into rythm and timing...can't go downhill on some very good defenses.  And I'm not saying KSU has a very good defense...it's not NU's defense either.

I know you prolly want to go Wooldridge rant on Tibs right about now...I'm just letting you know it's okay that we didn't hold OSU to 50 rushing.

hug now?

[Saulbadguy]

 

[Pete]

I love this thread.  Where is the button for assigning those stars?


If it were a puppy, I'd adopt it, take to my home and walk it everyday....then if this thread contracted rabies, I would kill it...because I love it that much.

In summary, good thread.

[sonofdaxjones]

Okay, again, through your projective, time shifting analysis, we have nothing to fear as KSU's fans about KSU's rush defense, because in a few select games NOT played by KSU, a good defense got run on easily.  

Not saying we have nothing to fear and not saying it's the end of the world either.  Just providing some info I thought might be handy when placing blame on "personnel" and/or "coaching".

It's not as though some of these rushing attacks...when they get into rythm and timing...can't go downhill on some very good defenses.  And I'm not saying KSU has a very good defense...it's not NU's defense either.

I know you prolly want to go Wooldridge rant on Tibs right about now...I'm just letting you know it's okay that we didn't hold OSU to 50 rushing.

hug now?

Well, if this continues for another 5 years like Wooldridge did, then I might go on a Wooldridge type rant, and I understand you just don't go out and shut down a rushing attack like OSU, but in KSU's case, they've been nothing better than a worn set of brake pads for the last 3 conference games.   Haven't seen . . . say an OU defense get run on so easily in the 3 straight games.

[kougar24]

Second, I see your point, but its far too much positive spin (GP-ish) for this board, and probably even for that one right now.  We have issues right now that must be corrected regardless whether other good/great defenses have been gashed by good option offenses in the past or not.

QFT

[cireksu]

I agree with fan, this is not 1 game that was bad, it's 3 in a row now.  If teams with halfway decent olines and rb's throw more than 20 times/game against us, the coach should be fired.

[WildCatzPhreak]

I'm starting to hop on the "We need a massive 400 lb NT" bandwagon.  I don't care if he gets pressure on the QB or not, so long as he doesn't get moved out of position.  It's hard for the linebackers to hit a gap when the gap doesn't exist because our NT is getting dominated so badly he's in the backfield.

As far as linebackers, I'm disappointed, but not surprised.  We went to a 4 linebacker defense with what, one returning starter?  Then we lose A Moore out of the group.

3-4 good juco pickups and we could have a good defense next season.  (Massive NT, a replacement for Rob, and two decent linebackers.)

Our secondary will still be sexy regardless(assuming Josh is playing next year.)

[slucat]

Okay, again, through your projective, time shifting analysis, we have nothing to fear as KSU's fans about KSU's rush defense, because in a few select games NOT played by KSU, a good defense got run on easily.  

Not saying we have nothing to fear and not saying it's the end of the world either.  Just providing some info I thought might be handy when placing blame on "personnel" and/or "coaching".

It's not as though some of these rushing attacks...when they get into rythm and timing...can't go downhill on some very good defenses.  And I'm not saying KSU has a very good defense...it's not NU's defense either.

I know you prolly want to go Wooldridge rant on Tibs right about now...I'm just letting you know it's okay that we didn't hold OSU to 50 rushing.

hug now?

Well, if this continues for another 5 years like Wooldridge did, then I might go on a Wooldridge type rant, and I understand you just don't go out and shut down a rushing attack like OSU, but in KSU's case, they've been nothing better than a worn set of brake pads for the last 3 conference games.   Haven't seen . . . say an OU defense get run on so easily in the 3 straight games.

Wait a sec, Ol' Wooly never got to post-season and lived in the B12 basement wit hiz momma.
Prince is on pace for another bowl bid and is still in it to play in the CCG.

Now if this all falls apart like it is in Lincoln, and we end football season battling out ISU for the bottom, then you might have something to talk about.

[rjd27]

What is the defense depth chart and redshirt chart look like? It might be time to pull some redshirts and see what the rookies can do. Can't do much worse than what the starters are doing.
R.J.