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October 21, 2007, 09:54:07 PM
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I want/hope Prince does well, but in reality he's 11-9 as a head coach.  Reading this thread makes him seem like a farking A-list head coach. 
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Recruiting is just a big tease.

October 21, 2007, 10:07:26 PM
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If they can't get back to their COD (century of dominance) then what about us? :frown:

Unless there is a clone of Bill Snyder, it's hard to duplicate.  Even Bob Stoops is not really performing to standards like Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson.

The landscape has changed so much it's getting harder for schools to create that kind of dynamic.

October 21, 2007, 10:12:29 PM
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I want/hope Prince does well, but in reality he's 11-9 as a head coach.  Reading this thread makes him seem like a farking A-list head coach. 

He's the only B12 north coach with a winning conference record.

It really is just saying the other coaches suck.

October 22, 2007, 07:21:11 AM
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Bo Pelini would be a terrrible hire.
He would be a great hire, his players go to war for him.  That has been part of the problem up here lately, more guys worried about their freaking hair gel then hitting someone.

I heard Pelini got a 7 on the wonderlic.  Remember when they fired him the first time?  He threw that huge tantrum out side of the NU football offices, throwing his box of crap into his vehicle and slamming the door (arms flailing around).  Then yelled at the camera that he had no comment and spun his tires in the parking lot.  That was a great moment.
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October 22, 2007, 01:33:43 PM
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Bo Pelini would be a terrrible hire.
He would be a great hire, his players go to war for him.  That has been part of the problem up here lately, more guys worried about their freaking hair gel then hitting someone.

Are you kidding me?

The problem is coaching.  While Pelini may be a great D Coordinator, he's not a scheme genius in any way shape or form.    In order for him to be able to restore Nebraska, he'd have to be smarter than TO.  I think a lot of rocks are much smarter than Pelini.  Based on what I've seen,   he did a horrible job against Snyder.

Prince would destroy him in a heart beat.

I'll tell you sker fans again. NU will NEVER be the same as it was during the 90's.  I'm sorry,  but if you don't recognize that your program can never do what it did.  And even if it did, you'd have to wait for many years, because the landscape has changed that much.   You all made the stupid mistake of firing Solich.   Then you watched as Callahan destroyed the roots and put in his crappy system and you all bought it hook line and sinker.  Now you got Mr. Senile who is spending his time telling the whiny old players who weren't allowed on the sideline that it's OK you can come back instead.   For whatever reason, the motivations will not change any aspect of your program.   Zero.  Zilch. 

Time for you guys to recognize the end is near for NU's relevance.  I predict, by 2010, the sellouts will end.

No one will ever have a run like that ever again, not even USC's current run equals it.  BTW, Pelini's one time against KSU the issue was not defense, it was our offenses inability to accomplish anything and leaving the defense on the field the whole game (that was a problem the entire season).  AND, he cleared the bench in the fourth quarter while BS left the starters in to run up the score.  Funny how LSU's Defensive stat's have improved in each of Pelini's seasons there.

Firing Solich was actually a good thing, he was not set up to succeed.  If he was such a great coach, why the hell is he at Ohio and losing to Buffalo?  Solich is a great position coach, but not even a good head coach.  He cannot delegate (again, there was much going on during his last season that I am not at liberty to discuss), and does not inspire players.

Only in (God, and I tried to have an intelligent conversations and of course, you all resorted to the typical name calling) your guy's mind will he coach circles around Pelini.  He will delegate (as he did in the Alamo Bowl when he was interim HC and let the offensive coaches do their thing.

I am pretty sure I am way closer to what is going on in Lincoln than any of you.  Yes the coaching sucks, but there are many attitudes (many of which I cannot talk about) that need to leave Lincoln now.

Seriously, win something with class, you are not going to win the Big XII north because you did not beat ku nor will you beat Missouri.  NU will be lucky to win another game, but what if we beat you guys.  Doubt it will happen, but we will have a field day.

Interesting how you go to the sell out card.  Does KSU even have sellouts much less a streak?  Even when the stadium is being dedicated to BS?

Has KSU ever even been relevant?  No, you have good runs here and there only to fold.  Again, win something with some element of class.

October 22, 2007, 01:37:39 PM
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Bo Pelini would be a terrrible hire.
He would be a great hire, his players go to war for him.  That has been part of the problem up here lately, more guys worried about their freaking hair gel then hitting someone.

Are you kidding me?

The problem is coaching.  While Pelini may be a great D Coordinator, he's not a scheme genius in any way shape or form.    In order for him to be able to restore Nebraska, he'd have to be smarter than TO.  I think a lot of rocks are much smarter than Pelini.  Based on what I've seen,   he did a horrible job against Snyder.

Prince would destroy him in a heart beat.

I'll tell you sker fans again. NU will NEVER be the same as it was during the 90's.  I'm sorry,  but if you don't recognize that your program can never do what it did.  And even if it did, you'd have to wait for many years, because the landscape has changed that much.   You all made the stupid mistake of firing Solich.   Then you watched as Callahan destroyed the roots and put in his crappy system and you all bought it hook line and sinker.  Now you got Mr. Senile who is spending his time telling the whiny old players who weren't allowed on the sideline that it's OK you can come back instead.   For whatever reason, the motivations will not change any aspect of your program.   Zero.  Zilch. 

Time for you guys to recognize the end is near for NU's relevance.  I predict, by 2010, the sellouts will end.

No one will ever have a run like that ever again, not even USC's current run equals it.  BTW, Pelini's one time against KSU the issue was not defense, it was our offenses inability to accomplish anything and leaving the defense on the field the whole game (that was a problem the entire season).  AND, he cleared the bench in the fourth quarter while BS left the starters in to run up the score.  Funny how LSU's Defensive stat's have improved in each of Pelini's seasons there.

Firing Solich was actually a good thing, he was not set up to succeed.  If he was such a great coach, why the hell is he at Ohio and losing to Buffalo?  Solich is a great position coach, but not even a good head coach.  He cannot delegate (again, there was much going on during his last season that I am not at liberty to discuss), and does not inspire players.

Only in (God, and I tried to have an intelligent conversations and of course, you all resorted to the typical name calling) your guy's mind will he coach circles around Pelini.  He will delegate (as he did in the Alamo Bowl when he was interim HC and let the offensive coaches do their thing.

I am pretty sure I am way closer to what is going on in Lincoln than any of you.  Yes the coaching sucks, but there are many attitudes (many of which I cannot talk about) that need to leave Lincoln now.

Seriously, win something with class, you are not going to win the Big XII north because you did not beat ku nor will you beat Missouri.  NU will be lucky to win another game, but what if we beat you guys.  Doubt it will happen, but we will have a field day.

Interesting how you go to the sell out card.  Does KSU even have sellouts much less a streak?  Even when the stadium is being dedicated to BS?

Has KSU ever even been relevant?  No, you have good runs here and there only to fold.  Again, win something with some element of class.
It's cool. I'd be bitter too.


Edit: and I hope the whole "class" thing is a joke. It is, right?

October 22, 2007, 01:38:09 PM
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I am pretty sure I am way closer to what is going on in Lincoln than any of you. 

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October 22, 2007, 05:40:22 PM
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Bo Pelini would be a terrrible hire.
He would be a great hire, his players go to war for him.  That has been part of the problem up here lately, more guys worried about their freaking hair gel then hitting someone.

Are you kidding me?

The problem is coaching.  While Pelini may be a great D Coordinator, he's not a scheme genius in any way shape or form.    In order for him to be able to restore Nebraska, he'd have to be smarter than TO.  I think a lot of rocks are much smarter than Pelini.  Based on what I've seen,   he did a horrible job against Snyder.

Prince would destroy him in a heart beat.

I'll tell you sker fans again. NU will NEVER be the same as it was during the 90's.  I'm sorry,  but if you don't recognize that your program can never do what it did.  And even if it did, you'd have to wait for many years, because the landscape has changed that much.   You all made the stupid mistake of firing Solich.   Then you watched as Callahan destroyed the roots and put in his crappy system and you all bought it hook line and sinker.  Now you got Mr. Senile who is spending his time telling the whiny old players who weren't allowed on the sideline that it's OK you can come back instead.   For whatever reason, the motivations will not change any aspect of your program.   Zero.  Zilch. 

Time for you guys to recognize the end is near for NU's relevance.  I predict, by 2010, the sellouts will end.

No one will ever have a run like that ever again, not even USC's current run equals it.  BTW, Pelini's one time against KSU the issue was not defense, it was our offenses inability to accomplish anything and leaving the defense on the field the whole game (that was a problem the entire season).  AND, he cleared the bench in the fourth quarter while BS left the starters in to run up the score.  Funny how LSU's Defensive stat's have improved in each of Pelini's seasons there.

Firing Solich was actually a good thing, he was not set up to succeed.  If he was such a great coach, why the hell is he at Ohio and losing to Buffalo?  Solich is a great position coach, but not even a good head coach.  He cannot delegate (again, there was much going on during his last season that I am not at liberty to discuss), and does not inspire players.

Only in (God, and I tried to have an intelligent conversations and of course, you all resorted to the typical name calling) your guy's mind will he coach circles around Pelini.  He will delegate (as he did in the Alamo Bowl when he was interim HC and let the offensive coaches do their thing.

I am pretty sure I am way closer to what is going on in Lincoln than any of you.  Yes the coaching sucks, but there are many attitudes (many of which I cannot talk about) that need to leave Lincoln now.

Seriously, win something with class, you are not going to win the Big XII north because you did not beat ku nor will you beat Missouri.  NU will be lucky to win another game, but what if we beat you guys.  Doubt it will happen, but we will have a field day.

Interesting how you go to the sell out card.  Does KSU even have sellouts much less a streak?  Even when the stadium is being dedicated to BS?

Has KSU ever even been relevant?  No, you have good runs here and there only to fold.  Again, win something with some element of class.
It's cool. I'd be bitter too.


Edit: and I hope the whole "class" thing is a joke. It is, right?

Bitter, not at all.  I do not live my life through any team.  I am happy for other teams in the Big XII having success.  The run NU has had from the late 1960's until the 2000's is unprecedented and will never be repeated.  I &@#%ing hate it when the ESPN's of the world crown USC as the greatest team ever, but loved it when Texas beat their asses.  It sucks that the Big XII is not as relevant as it once was.

What pissed me off is I initially asked prior in the thread what are the chances of Prince leaving going for the money and you all turned it into so and so is retarded and whatever. 

Last year I had great conversations (some through IM's apologizing for stupid Husker fans voice mails MJROD) with some of the people on this board.  Also, if you look prior in this thread, I asked who was coming up for the game so I could meet some of you.  One of the joys of going to NU games is partying with the opponents fans.  And I will be very honest with you all, the only fans who do not party with us are KSU fans.  I have been invited to more away games by fans.  I seriously do not get it with KSU fans.  I was hoping to meet up with some of you and do some bar hopping or tail gating and lets turn this into a fun rivalry, not so serious of one.  Because, ultimately, it is just a game and it does not define who any of us are as people.

And Steve Dave, I seriously doubt you or any others are closer to the situation then me or have the same access to information I do.

Regarding if I was serious about the class comment, should I start naming names of friends of mine that have gone to games at KSU only to have their tires slashed while attend the game or at the hotel?  Do your fans clap for the opposition when they leave the field after a game?  They did this for Switzer year in and out when he was kicking our ass.

Seriously, some on this board are no different than typical Husker fan.

October 22, 2007, 05:54:32 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 22, 2007, 07:04:15 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
I think A&M goes for Tuberville.

October 22, 2007, 07:13:58 PM
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And Steve Dave, I seriously doubt you or any others are closer to the situation then me or have the same access to information I do.

Tell me where your paycheck comes from and I'll tell you if you are allowed to claim the same ballpark as me.  Want me to tell you how many times Marlon Lucky failed his intro to Math course?  Rookie.
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October 22, 2007, 09:43:29 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
You just want to see another debacle of coaches saying no to NU like their last coaching search.

October 22, 2007, 10:55:22 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.

October 22, 2007, 11:28:54 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.
Do you really not understand what he was saying to you? He's talking about your paycheck. What your occupation is.

October 23, 2007, 12:06:43 AM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.
Do you really not understand what he was saying to you? He's talking about your paycheck. What your occupation is.
Yep Waks, and it is completely irrelevant to knowledge of a program.  Unless he is one of a small handful of people and those folks do not post on message boards.  I am sure there are a lot of people who post on this board with inside info on KSU athletics who know more than those with big paychecks.  And I do alright, I don't feel the need to brag.

October 23, 2007, 12:16:53 AM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.
Do you really not understand what he was saying to you? He's talking about your paycheck. What your occupation is.
Yep Waks, and it is completely irrelevant to knowledge of a program.  Unless he is one of a small handful of people and those folks do not post on message boards.  I am sure there are a lot of people who post on this board with inside info on KSU athletics who know more than those with big paychecks.  And I do alright, I don't feel the need to brag.
Nevermind.  :rolleyes:

October 23, 2007, 07:09:43 AM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.
Do you really not understand what he was saying to you? He's talking about your paycheck. What your occupation is.
Yep Waks, and it is completely irrelevant to knowledge of a program.  Unless he is one of a small handful of people and those folks do not post on message boards.  I am sure there are a lot of people who post on this board with inside info on KSU athletics who know more than those with big paychecks.  And I do alright, I don't feel the need to brag.

'sigh' Listen genius, do you work for UNL? 

PS. Kansas STATE fans do not talk money, car or house size smack.
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October 23, 2007, 06:12:24 PM
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i just really really think pelini would be a bad choice.

if i'm nu, i shoot high. try to pry one of those sec coaches away.
Fatty, I can respect that opinion.  Not sure I would go after an SEC coach, depends on the type of team the AD wants 

Steve Dave, it has nothing to do with money and that is old news just like when he tried to leave and go to another school.  Money has nothing to do with info.  Get over yourself.  I knew before it hit the press he was in the hospital and why.  I guess if you have to pay for your info, go for it.
Do you really not understand what he was saying to you? He's talking about your paycheck. What your occupation is.
Yep Waks, and it is completely irrelevant to knowledge of a program.  Unless he is one of a small handful of people and those folks do not post on message boards.  I am sure there are a lot of people who post on this board with inside info on KSU athletics who know more than those with big paychecks.  And I do alright, I don't feel the need to brag.

'sigh' Listen genius, do you work for UNL? 

PS. Kansas STATE fans do not talk money, car or house size smack.
No I do not work for UNL, and you started the money talk.

October 24, 2007, 07:01:31 AM
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No I do not work for UNL, and you started the money talk.

No, I started the where do you work talk.  How come you're the only one that doesn't get this?
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October 24, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
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No I do not work for UNL, and you started the money talk.

No, I started the where do you work talk.  How come you're the only one that doesn't get this?
Because his degree comes from NU.