Well... what did you all think?

[KSUTOMMY]

I would like to think that CU has a decent defense as shown by their game vs OU. Do you all think that we made some adjustments? I was at someone elses house so there were many other games being switched on periodically - I would like to get some other folk's opinions of the game? Our run defense is still puzzling to me - or Charles is a bad ass, but judging by our performance vs ku and CU we might have a few more issues to address. Pass D looked pretty solid, the O Line looked decent as well.

One final thought, did anyone go crazy when Ian Campbell made Cody boy his bitch with that over the head snap? I thought Iam was going to throw him into the student section!

thoughts?

[WildCatzPhreak]

CU has a pretty good defense, and an OK offense.  I'm surprised both teams had as much success running the ball as they did.

[ew2x4]

I would like to think that CU has a decent defense as shown by their game vs OU. Do you all think that we made some adjustments? I was at someone elses house so there were many other games being switched on periodically - I would like to get some other folk's opinions of the game? Our run defense is still puzzling to me - or Charles is a bad ass, but judging by our performance vs ku and CU we might have a few more issues to address. Pass D looked pretty solid, the O Line looked decent as well.

One final thought, did anyone go crazy when Ian Campbell made Cody boy his bitch with that over the head snap? I thought Iam was going to throw him into the student section!

thoughts?

Co-dy Hawk-ins. clap clap clap clap clap

Yeah, I started the chant after Ian made him his bitch.

[willie83]

They have got to fix the run defense up the middle. ku's McRunningback and Charles ran at will right up the gut.

[konofo]

They have got to fix the run defense up the middle. ku's McRunningback and Charles ran at will right up the gut.

No worries, MJROD says it's just "a scheme thing that OSU doesn't have."

kono

[Pittcat]

No shat! at one point towards the end of the first half, Charles had 111 yards up the middle.

[Legore]

Charles is good but not that good and our tackling was poor on everyone who had the ball not just Charles.  Even the slow white fullback broke one open on us.

Offense was the best it's been all year.  Balance was good ran the ball well and while we didn't really throw it deep we were at least throwing it 10 to 15 yards down field rather then 5 yards downfield.  Didn't ride Jordy into the ground just threw to him a few times and used him as a decoy to get some others involved.  Viers held up well and benching Unruh in favor or Logan Robinson seems to be a good move.  James Johnson is really a good runner smooth with good vision and tough to bring down.  Patton needs to take a lesson from Johnson and be a little more patient when he runs and let the play develop.  

On D our secondary is quite good with a healthy Watts and Chris Carney playing the way he is.  Obviously just need to stop the run better made some adjustments and did a better job in the second half played some 4 man front with Abana and Cline at the tackles and Campbell and Jackson at the ends.  Also saw less Walker and more Houlik in the second half which seemed to help.  Walker is atheltic but doesn't need to be in there against downhill physical running teams.  

All in all a good win but still plenty to work on.  Oklahoma State is going to be a big challenge for us next week they are another strong running team and they'll present more of a challenge in the passing game then CU did.  Probably will be the best offensive football team we've faced so far.  

[mjrod]

They have got to fix the run defense up the middle. ku's McRunningback and Charles ran at will right up the gut.

No worries, MJROD says it's just "a scheme thing that OSU doesn't have."

kono

Prince saw what I saw.  I listened to the post game and I said Walker and the LB's were out of position.  I watched it and I said to my wife, "Charles is going to run for another  10-15 yards"   

Stan asked Prince about it during post game, and Prince had said it was a scheme issue, and he made and adjustment.  After that, the LB's were moved over.

Running game addressed.   

Thank you.

 

[konofo]

Stan asked Prince about it during post game, and Prince had said it was a scheme issue, and he made and adjustment.  After that, the LB's were moved over.

Running game addressed.   

Thank you.

The Colorado running game was "addressed" by a multi-touchdown lead and a ticking clock.  Hawkins went pass-happy, and Charles was allowed one rushing attempt (for nine yards) in the fourth quarter.  In the third, he had 48 yards on 10 carries, which killed his average, but hardly inspired any confidence in our "scheme."

kono

[feralchat]

Perhaps, but I agree with those who said the tackling was poor. I think the second half success again the run had a lot to do with getting up by three scores.

[mjrod]

Stan asked Prince about it during post game, and Prince had said it was a scheme issue, and he made and adjustment.  After that, the LB's were moved over.

Running game addressed.   

Thank you.

The Colorado running game was "addressed" by a multi-touchdown lead and a ticking clock.  Hawkins went pass-happy, and Charles was allowed one rushing attempt (for nine yards) in the fourth quarter.  In the third, he had 48 yards on 10 carries, which killed his average, but hardly inspired any confidence in our "scheme."

kono

He had one run of 24 yards in the third quarter.   The other 9 runs were 7 or less yards, two of them for no gain.

[konofo]

He had one run of 24 yards in the third quarter.   The other 9 runs were 7 or less yards, two of them for no gain.

Three first downs and a touchdown.

kono

[mjrod]

He had one run of 24 yards in the third quarter.   The other 9 runs were 7 or less yards, two of them for no gain.

Three first downs and a touchdown.

kono

His 24 yard run and 1 yard TD was on the same drive.  He was never productive before or after that drive in the third quarter.   That same drive had a 40 yard pass play.

[konofo]

Savage is going to need two pairs of cleats next week.

kono

[mjrod]

I'm not disagreeing that he will run against us, but Charles did not get a long TD run against us.

Again, the issue will be the scheme, as the evidence clearly states the scheme (adjustment if you will) literally rendered Charles effectiveness to just one drive in the second half.

hth.

[konofo]

I'm not disagreeing that he will run against us, but Charles did not get a long TD run against us.

Again, the issue will be the scheme, as the evidence clearly states the scheme (adjustment if you will) literally rendered Charles effectiveness to just one drive in the second half.

hth.

After the "effective" drive, he was allowed two carries as a consequence of the scoreboard and/or playcalling.  That leaves two drives.  He was bottled up nicely on one of them.  The other only stalled out when Colorado gave the wrong guy the job of converting a fourth-and-one.

As for long runs, he tagged us for 22, 24, 37, and 24.  SFW that none of those ended at the goal line, they each led to scores.

If you don't want to be concerned, don't, but you'll have a hard time convincing anyone it's a non-issue.  Maybe last week was uncharacteristic.  But now, it's a pattern.

hth!!!11!

kono

[leawoodcat]

I'm not disagreeing that he will run against us, but Charles did not get a long TD run against us.

Again, the issue will be the scheme, as the evidence clearly states the scheme (adjustment if you will) literally rendered Charles effectiveness to just one drive in the second half.

hth.

After the "effective" drive, he was allowed two carries as a consequence of the scoreboard and/or playcalling.  That leaves two drives.  He was bottled up nicely on one of them.  The other only stalled out when Colorado gave the wrong guy the job of converting a fourth-and-one.

As for long runs, he tagged us for 22, 24, 37, and 24.  SFW that none of those ended at the goal line, they each led to scores.

If you don't want to be concerned, don't, but you'll have a hard time convincing anyone it's a non-issue.  Maybe last week was uncharacteristic.  But now, it's a pattern.

hth!!!11!

kono

I am certainly concerned but the good news is that this week the problem got corrected and last week it did not. It is nice to see the coaches adjusting as this has not been a strength to date.

[wildcat79]

I think KSU was pretty beat up when they played ku last week. I thought KSU was very quick last night and the hitting was brutal on both sides. I thought that CU showed a lot of quickness as well. I think KSU looks quicker on both sides of the ball than they have in some time. JMO

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I thought tackling was part of the issue with the run game, seems we'd get to charles but not bring him down sometimes.  Which leads me to hope, we can still fix the problem some.

I liked seeing Gabriel Crews out there in the 2nd half, Abana too.  I hope that is a sign that they are both improving and earning playing time.  Crews was disruptive on a couple of plays. 

I liked the commitment to the running game, I think its been the first time we have really seen that.  I also liked the option, I think we ran it twice, once on Murphy's reverse, and one other time where we actually lost yards.  However, I would like to see us try it some more.  Lastly, moving Pooshcke to Full back on plays, I like putting a blocker back there, and hope we see that more.

The direct snaps to Johnson makes me think they are going to throw out of that eventually...ie bold and daring.

Carney is a playmaker! I love having him in there.

LaMark had, what, 2 or 3 catches! Also about 3 tackles on special teams.  Lets continue to see LaMark out there.
 

[mjrod]

I'm not disagreeing that he will run against us, but Charles did not get a long TD run against us.

Again, the issue will be the scheme, as the evidence clearly states the scheme (adjustment if you will) literally rendered Charles effectiveness to just one drive in the second half.

hth.

After the "effective" drive, he was allowed two carries as a consequence of the scoreboard and/or playcalling.  That leaves two drives.  He was bottled up nicely on one of them.  The other only stalled out when Colorado gave the wrong guy the job of converting a fourth-and-one.

As for long runs, he tagged us for 22, 24, 37, and 24.  SFW that none of those ended at the goal line, they each led to scores.

If you don't want to be concerned, don't, but you'll have a hard time convincing anyone it's a non-issue.  Maybe last week was uncharacteristic.  But now, it's a pattern.

hth!!!11!

kono

They led to two TD's and two FG.   The rest of the time, their running game did nothing because we adjusted.  The scheme changed.   I don't know why you seem to get hung up on the context of your facts, but realize the change in defense ended that part of the game.  So who cares if they went one dimensional because of the score, the whole point of this exercise is that defense made the adjustments.. held them to 20 points while we put 40 on offense.

The biggest adjustments came when needed.

OSU has a great runner.  Shut him down and make them one dimensional seems like a great idea and  I think Prince showed it.  Yes, I'm concerned, but I assure you I'm not getting my panties in a wad over it like you appear to be.

[catzacker]

Our best run defense was our offense.  After we went up 30-13 with about 6 minutes to go in the 3rd QTR, CU ran the ball (as in handed it off, no Cody running around) 6 times the rest of the game.   

[cireksu]

What is our record in games with no turnovers on offense?  seems we don't lose when we don't turn the ball over.  Will be huge against OSU.  I say if we don't turn it over we'll win.

[catzacker]

In JF's starts, when he doesn't throw an INT, we're 5-0, when he does, we're 3-6. 

[southkscatfan]

Running the ball= offensive balance= less than 40 pass attempts = less INT's. Feel the flow its circular. 

[Catbanker]

a couple of observations:  Watts was moved to strong safety and positioned like a middle linebacker.  That was one of the adjustments so they could play both Watts and Carney.  Prince indicated that on the drive where he called a time out he noticed somethings the CU offense was doing, ie giving false reads to are D.  As an Offensive line coach he picked up on it, made the adjustment and CU had to settle for a field goal.  Our running game worked because both Johnson and Patton kept their heads up and when they saw that the play wasn't there, reversed directions and made good positive yardage.