Ouch.

[michigancat]

Lutz's top 10 non OL's in the ku-KSU game:

Here goes:

1. Jordy Nelson, K-State wide receiver. This guy is spectacular.
2. Todd Reesing, ku quarterback. How much fun is he going to be to watch over the next 2 ½ years?
3. James McClinton, ku defensive lineman. Disrupted almost every K-State play.
4. charles gordon lite, ku cornerback. After getting burned by Nelson early, he turned up the heat.
5. Brandon McAnderson, ku fullback. Tough inside runner with speed.
6. Joe Mortensen, ku linebacker. McClinton led the initial charge; Mortensen was there to back him up.
7. Ian Campbell, KSU linebacker. Not at his best, but still had three tackles for losses.
8. Jake Sharp, ku running back. Had his breakout game and dispelled concerns about being too small.
9. John Houlik, KSU linebacker. Tackling machine, as my buddy Jeffrey Martin calls him.
10. Dexton Fields, ku receiver. Breakaway speed and a favorite Reesing target.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/lutz/story/195759.html

Snyder's fault, or Prince's?

[fatty fat fat]

Chris Carney?

[michigancat]

phog was right, Houlik was a mercy addition.

I guess Carney got lucky?

[ksu_FAN]

Lutz's top 10 non OL's in the ku-KSU game:

Here goes:

1. Jordy Nelson, K-State wide receiver. This guy is spectacular.
2. Todd Reesing, ku quarterback. How much fun is he going to be to watch over the next 2 ½ years?
3. James McClinton, ku defensive lineman. Disrupted almost every K-State play.
4. charles gordon lite, ku cornerback. After getting burned by Nelson early, he turned up the heat.
5. Brandon McAnderson, ku fullback. Tough inside runner with speed.
6. Joe Mortensen, ku linebacker. McClinton led the initial charge; Mortensen was there to back him up.
7. Ian Campbell, KSU linebacker. Not at his best, but still had three tackles for losses.
8. Jake Sharp, ku running back. Had his breakout game and dispelled concerns about being too small.
9. John Houlik, KSU linebacker. Tackling machine, as my buddy Jeffrey Martin calls him.
10. Dexton Fields, ku receiver. Breakaway speed and a favorite Reesing target.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/lutz/story/195759.html

Snyder's fault, or Prince's?

Prince's, direct and indirectly I suppose.  But it could've easily swung with a ku win.  Had we done our job in the 2nd half and won, guys like Johnson or Freeman on offense and Walker or Roland on defense could've made their way in the mix.  The winner got the benefit of the doubt on the list, as it should be.

[chum1]

"A" game vs. "D-" game.  Fluke city.

[catzacker]

Snyder's fault, or Prince's?

Snyder's.  People will say "our best players are Bill's"...well, no kidding, I wouldn't expect that the team's best players were recruited by a second year head coach who just got "his" first recruiting class in this year.  The fact that some of the stars on the team are walkons isn't a good thing given the roster.  If those walkons were part of a larger core of stars, then that's a good thing (see Jon McGraw). 

The thing that I find frustrating is that the OL.  I expected Prince to aid in working some "D'Brick magic" on our OL.  It hasn't happened thus far. 

[ew2x4]

Our Oline is vastly improved from '04. It obviously has a lot of work to do and be more consistent, but go back and watch Darren get killed in our backfield.

[WavetheWheat]

Catzack you got some editing to do...Freeman's stats.

[catzacker]

The OL in '04 averaged 4.3 YPC, we currently are at 4.0

[michigancat]

The OL in '04 averaged 4.3 YPC, we currently are at 4.0

Um, I think you have to take the Sproles factor into consideration.

[catzacker]

The OL in '04 averaged 4.3 YPC, we currently are at 4.0

Um, I think you have to take the Sproles factor into consideration.

Sure.  But if the OL in '07 is truly better, then we probably need to start seeing us run the damn ball more. 

[michigancat]

The OL in '04 averaged 4.3 YPC, we currently are at 4.0

Um, I think you have to take the Sproles factor into consideration.

Sure.  But if the OL in '07 is truly better, then we probably need to start seeing us run the damn ball more. 

I really think you're just being emotional based on one half of a game where our 250 pound true sophomore defensive end was forced to play center against an NFL DT.

There was NO PROBLEM moving the ball in the first half at all.

[catzacker]

The OL in '04 averaged 4.3 YPC, we currently are at 4.0

Um, I think you have to take the Sproles factor into consideration.

Sure.  But if the OL in '07 is truly better, then we probably need to start seeing us run the damn ball more. 

I really think you're just being emotional based on one half of a game where our 250 pound true sophomore defensive end was forced to play center against an NFL DT.

There was NO PROBLEM moving the ball in the first half at all.

I don't doubt that losing Bedore hurt.  What I'm saying is that we should run the ball MORE.  In the first half we had about 35 plays, we ran 12 times (for 51 yds - 4.25ypc) which means we had a pass/run of 65/35.  We should probably be doing more running, which would allow for better opportunities to get down the field.  Although with Viers in there now, it's probably moot. 

[michigancat]

According to Hatter, we had 240 yards of offense in the first half.  When combined with your play count, that's good for almost 7 yards a play.  No matter what your run/pass ratio is, that's solid.  I don't think running it more changes that significantly.

[cireksu]

Also remembe sproles had like 600 yds after the first 2 games of 04 and gained about 800 yds in the last 9 games.

[PowercatPosse]

Yes, we did have 240 yds in the 1st half.   2 yds rushing in the 2nd half..... mainly because Mclinton just dominated Viers. 

ku only had aroun 135 yds of offense before we gave them the ball on the INT.  From there out, they moved the ball pretty well on us

[ksuno1stunner]

According to Hatter, we had 240 yards of offense in the first half.  When combined with your play count, that's good for almost 7 yards a play.  No matter what your run/pass ratio is, that's solid.  I don't think running it more changes that significantly.

68 of it was the Nelson grab, but say that went for 30 instead, we would of still had 200 yards.

[Jayhoxx]

Rodriguez should be on there for making Jackson disappear.

Collins should be on there for springing the RB's through the left side.

Mayes should be on the because Hatter thinks he stinks and he threw some key downfield blocks on the scores.

Prince should be on there because he was our most valuable player.

[michigancat]

According to Hatter, we had 240 yards of offense in the first half.  When combined with your play count, that's good for almost 7 yards a play.  No matter what your run/pass ratio is, that's solid.  I don't think running it more changes that significantly.

68 of it was the Nelson grab, but say that went for 30 instead, we would of still had 200 yards.

Assuming that is the last play of the drive.

[ksuno1stunner]

According to Hatter, we had 240 yards of offense in the first half.  When combined with your play count, that's good for almost 7 yards a play.  No matter what your run/pass ratio is, that's solid.  I don't think running it more changes that significantly.

68 of it was the Nelson grab, but say that went for 30 instead, we would of still had 200 yards.

Assuming that is the last play of the drive.

True

[PowercatPosse]

Walker and Roland did a terrible job of tackling McAnderson (and Sharp on one or two plays)

Campbell having to play DE instead of OLB, hurt our D, but i understand that Ian would have had some difficulty playing out in space in the flat.  

Biggest play that no one talks about is ......

Late in 2nd quarter when Reesing got sacked and fumbled.  The ball went awkwardly backwards and went right to a ku OL who was on the ground.  If that ball goes straight down (like most fumbles on QB sacks do), then Ian recovers it and if he scoops it up, he would have had some serious running around as no one was around.

[catzacker]

According to Hatter, we had 240 yards of offense in the first half.  When combined with your play count, that's good for almost 7 yards a play.  No matter what your run/pass ratio is, that's solid.  I don't think running it more changes that significantly.

And we only had 14 points to show for it.  Holy crap did we piss away a 1st half with penalties and that INT.  I still think running the ball more will give us more opportunities down the field with the passing game.