Right Angle Sports' take:

[BostonPancake]

Kansas at Kansas State (-3) - 9:00am Pacific - Game #345-346

Kansas State has won 6 of their last 8 regular season games. Two of those wins have come vs Texas, both with the Longhorns ranked in the top 10, including a 41-21 win in Austin last week. When KSU beat Texas last year it was a marquee win that clinched a bowl bid for them. They turned around the following week and lost at Kansas in a letdown situation 39-20, but six turnovers led to 30 Jayhawk points including an INT runback and four scoring drives less than 25 yards. This year the Wildcats are at home, had a BYE prior to Texas game, and will be better prepared to avoid a letdown. Kansas State's only loss this year came at Auburn where they led into the 4th quarter and played well enough to win. Sophomore QB Josh Freeman is completing 61.8% of his passes and WR Jordy Nelson has emerged as one of the top receivers in the Big 12. Kansas coach Mangino was quoted as saying he "didn't have the hips" to be a defensive back as to why he didn't recruit Nelson. Kansas State's defense kept Texas in check despite playing without top secondary man FS Marcus Watts who was a late scratch due to wrist and shoulder injuries. Being that he was in uniform there is a good chance he will be back healthy for this game. Kansas has rolled through their early season schedule but have not faced anything close to a quality opponent yet. They have played two overrated and defensively ravaged MAC teams in Central Michigan and Toledo, a bad 1-AA team in SE Louisiana, and a Sunbelt team who didn't win a game last year in Florida International. The Jayhawks are just 2-22 in Big 12 road games under Mangino. It is unlikely they have improved enough this year to beat a quality opponent on the road. Give the points.

RAS Early Look: Kansas State -3 1/2 UNIT

[fatty fat fat]

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[hemmy]

four scoring drives less than 25 yards.

 

Yikes, that I did not know.

Surely nothing like that will happen this week right?

[cocomonkey]

no it will not.

in addition our top wr will take the field this year, our qb does not have an injury to his throwing hand, our ol is playing much better, and our d will stop the kwho run game dead in its tracks.

GOCATS!!!

[McGrowlTowelZac]

One of the more reasonable analysis' I have read yet.

[oneuponaggies]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

[KSUTOMMY]

I am playing a card this weekend... and I have NEVER seen a lock on betting more-so than this one. If you dont make this bet... you are clueless.

Quote: "Kansas coach Mangino was quoted as saying he 'didn't have the hips' to be a defensive back as to why he didn't recruit Nelson."

That short-sightedness is why the Fat Man will never do overall in recruiting. What an idiot! BTW, does anyone actually think that Nelson would have left Riley County and KSU? I believe that he wouldve actually rathered walk on here than ku.

Oneupon, you have just made the point that we all have been trying to make all season... bad teams let those leads slip away in the 4th quarter - KSU vs OSU - we need not say anything more.

[BostonPancake]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

[oneuponaggies]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

[BostonPancake]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[catzacker]

four scoring drives less than 25 yards.

 

Yikes, that I did not know.

Surely nothing like that will happen this week right?

Just as a follow up, if I did my math correctly, ku moved the ball 72 total yards for 30 points.  

-Freeman throws an int that put them on OUR 24 yd line which led to 7 points,
-Freeman fumbled on OUR 36 yd line which led to 3 points,
-Freeman fumbled in the end zone which led to 7 points.  
-Freeman throws an interception for a touchdown (7 points),
-Freeman fumbles which gets returned to OUR 12 yard line which leads to 6 points (they missed the extra point).  

Now I give ku full credit for forcing those turnovers and capitalizing on them, but I think if we limit our turnovers we should be okay.  

[Racquetball_Ninja]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

Everybody loves a moral victory.  Well... everybody at ku.   

[FBWillie]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

[oneuponaggies]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

wrong.  You are missing the point...i'll dumb it down for aggie fan.

ku had plenty of talent last year and little experience/ coaching.  Therefore this season people have forgotten how much talent they have because when they look back at last years record they forget how those games played out.

Sophmores and juniors make coaches look a lot better than true freshmen no matter how great you coach them.

[Beer]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

Thank you for that analysis, Mr. Wooldridge.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

wrong.  You are missing the point...i'll dumb it down for aggie fan.

ku had plenty of talent last year and little experience/ coaching.  Therefore this season people have forgotten how much talent they have because when they look back at last years record they forget how those games played out.

Sophmores and juniors make coaches look a lot better than true freshmen no matter how great you coach them.

Outside of Cornish and Talib, where was all this 'talent?' 

[FBWillie]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

wrong.  You are missing the point...i'll dumb it down for aggie fan.

ku had plenty of talent last year and little experience/ coaching.  Therefore this season people have forgotten how much talent they have because when they look back at last years record they forget how those games played out.

Sophmores and juniors make coaches look a lot better than true freshmen no matter how great you coach them.

OHHHKKKAAYYY ku fan.  Tanks fer dat edumuhcation.  Us aggies, whut wit liv'n in da thurties and all, need ta bee lerned bi da hier lern'n dat is ku.  but won problum der, I wuznt tawkn bout cohchn plaers, but how da cohtch man ages da gaim.  liek tym owts and wat not. 

Translation for Highly educated with HFBIQ ku fan:

Nice try dumb ass.   But every KSU fan knows that I wasn't talking about coaching the players.  I was talking about the coaches Game Management.  Such as timeouts, running plays, prevent defense's or whatever the situation calls for.  For instance, Our Game vs. Auburn, the last 5 minutes of the game were horribly coached.  We lost that game because of our game management; not because of our athletes.

[oneuponaggies]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

wrong.  You are missing the point...i'll dumb it down for aggie fan.

ku had plenty of talent last year and little experience/ coaching.  Therefore this season people have forgotten how much talent they have because when they look back at last years record they forget how those games played out.

Sophmores and juniors make coaches look a lot better than true freshmen no matter how great you coach them.

OHHHKKKAAYYY ku fan.  Tanks fer dat edumuhcation.  Us aggies, whut wit liv'n in da thurties and all, need ta bee lerned bi da hier lern'n dat is ku.  but won problum der, I wuznt tawkn bout cohchn plaers, but how da cohtch man ages da gaim.  liek tym owts and wat not. 

Translation for Highly educated with HFBIQ ku fan:

Nice try dumb ass.   But every KSU fan knows that I wasn't talking about coaching the players.  I was talking about the coaches Game Management.  Such as timeouts, running plays, prevent defense's or whatever the situation calls for.  For instance, Our Game vs. Auburn, the last 5 minutes of the game were horribly coached.  We lost that game because of our game management; not because of our athletes.

you got me...there is not reason why ku should even be considered a decent team this year....they suck and they must have been really lucky to blow out their weak opponents so far this year.  Every analyst in the country must be an idiot to think that ku can compete with anyone in the big 12....especially considering they are all gay and probably have sex with each other before and after each game.

[WorldWideBalla21]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

wrong.  You are missing the point...i'll dumb it down for aggie fan.

ku had plenty of talent last year and little experience/ coaching.  Therefore this season people have forgotten how much talent they have because when they look back at last years record they forget how those games played out.

Sophmores and juniors make coaches look a lot better than true freshmen no matter how great you coach them.

OHHHKKKAAYYY ku fan.  Tanks fer dat edumuhcation.  Us aggies, whut wit liv'n in da thurties and all, need ta bee lerned bi da hier lern'n dat is ku.  but won problum der, I wuznt tawkn bout cohchn plaers, but how da cohtch man ages da gaim.  liek tym owts and wat not. 

Translation for Highly educated with HFBIQ ku fan:

Nice try dumb ass.   But every KSU fan knows that I wasn't talking about coaching the players.  I was talking about the coaches Game Management.  Such as timeouts, running plays, prevent defense's or whatever the situation calls for.  For instance, Our Game vs. Auburn, the last 5 minutes of the game were horribly coached.  We lost that game because of our game management; not because of our athletes.

you got me...there is not reason why ku should even be considered a decent team this year....they suck and they must have been really lucky to blow out their weak opponents so far this year.  Every analyst in the country must be an idiot to think that ku can compete with anyone in the big 12....especially considering they are all gay and probably have sex with each other before and after each game.

He finally gets it. 

[oneuponaggies]

 

[BRULL]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

AUBURN
 

[superwillie8]

"you got me...there is not reason why ku should even be considered a decent team this year....they suck and they must have been really lucky to blow out their weak opponents so far this year.  Every analyst in the country must be an idiot to think that ku can compete with anyone in the big 12....especially considering they are all gay and probably have sex with each other before and after each game. "

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!! 

[FBWillie]

One thing people are failing to recognize about last years 'hawks was that they were up in 4 or 5 games in the 4th quarter and let the game slip away.  So their road record and record overall would lead you to believe that they were not as good last year as they actually were.

We need a stat called "ahead in the 4th quarter, but let the game slip away, so it's really a win"

Your FBIQ just took a major hit with that comment.

What i'm saying is that they were young and had trouble closing out games but they had much more talent than people are giving them credit for. 

OSU was down 17 late in the game and won due to a bunch of freshmen mistakes etc.....

Maybe my football IQ isn't as 'awesome' as yours but for someone who claims to be smart you sure dismiss logic and turn to personal insults quickly.

I really shouldn't be doing this; but if this is going to ever be a rivalry again, ku fans need a boost to their FBIQ.  And where else are they going to learn? 

If your team is letting games slip away within the last minutes of a game, specifically by margins greater than a TD, the blame is solely placed on the shoulders of the coaches game management.   A good coach should know that young players are going to make mistakes and should be able to put them in positions to minimize those mistakes.

AUBURN
 

exactly.  What was somewhat nice about that is prince admitted it was his fault.