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September 05, 2007, 08:53:12 PM
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You have never once given ku credit for anything.  Not even when ku smoked your team by 3 TD's last year.  I've never seen a person so unwilling to admit he was wrong.  All I can say is that you're about to find out what I've been preaching for the last few days in about a month.

ku's WR's are very good this year and we've got a QB that can get them the ball.  I laugh at your notion that there are zero vertical threats when ku had 6 different guys score TD's, and Marcus Henry and Aqib Talib went for 50 yard bombs down field.  Like I've said, you know nothing about ku.  It's clear you didn't watch the game vs. CMU and it's clear you were more than surprised by the final score.

ku's o-line is improved as well the defense.  You can doubt that until you see it for yourself.  I'm basically done trying to make valid arguments with someone who thinks K-State's o-line is better than ku's.  You can't even admit weakness when it's apparent to everyone else in the Big 12 that K-State's o-line has sucked for years now.  Auburn didn't get as many sacks because the plays were designed to get the ball out of Freeman's hands as quickly as possible.  That's the bottom line.  You can deny it until you're blue in the face.

Your team has lost its last 3 games and your QB hasn't thrown a TD since the Texas game of last season.  That's embarassing to say the least and I'm sure you'll have a justification for it in a matter of minutes.  All I know is that the same defense and the same team minus Yamon Figurs and a couple senior LB's went to ku last year and got stomped.  The battle up front was won by ku on both sides of the ball and it won't be any different this season. 


1) I have given plenty of credit to ku over the past few years.  Two years ago I thought your defense was very good and said as much.  Last year your offense was good and said as much.  But this is a new year and you lost 110-plus career starts in the middle of your OL.  You don't seem to get it and no blowout of Central Michigan will indicate anything.  Central Michigan gave up a lot of points LAST year and lost some key personnel off that team.

2) No, you don't have vertical threats.  Central Michigan does not prove you have vertical threats.  Jermaine Moreira hit on some long passes vs. the lesser teams but no KSU fan would say he was a "vertical" threat.  Going into this season Henry, Fields, and Herford combined for the longest pass play of 31 yards....and playing longer or being more experienced doesn't add anything to that.  You're either a vertical threat or you're not and they are not. 

3) LOL again at your huffing and puffing about OL.  Don't use the excuse about there being plenty of short passes...Freeman also held it a number of times and went through progressions.  Now you can choose to believe what you want or you can watch all of the plays and judge for yourself.  Only the dumbass fans believe KSU's offensive line performed poorly against Auburn.  Even Ron Prince said the OL played well.  Again, that front 7 we faced is BETTER than anything in the Big 12.  You're the only one in denial...Spexarth was handling bullrushes by their DT's.  Bedore looked very good.  Stringer held his own any time Groves lined up over him.  The OL isn't perfect but it has improved a LOT.  Keep believing this is '04, '05, and even '06...that is what you choose to believe but then again you are one who uses beliefs and fairy tales rather than statistics, facts, and video evidence.  Last year Florida scored 17 and LSU scored 3 on that front 7...get it yet?

4) I really don't care if Freeman has not thrown a TD pass in a few games or we lost a few games....two of those games were vs. very formidable opponents away from home and the 3rd we played a team in their super bowl w/ a mash unit.

LOL at you slipping Figurs in there...he sucked according to you until he was no longer in the program.  Good stuff.




September 05, 2007, 08:58:59 PM
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The fact that BMW and Co. are basing their team's "superior talent" on one game against a MAC team, any MAC team, is assinine.

And the whole "same defense as '06" is a ginormous stinking bag of LOFL's.

September 05, 2007, 09:15:20 PM
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The main reason why ku's receivers didn't have many long TD's last year was because our QB's didn't get them the ball.  Adam Barmann had one good game vs. Nebraska, and Kerry Meier was battling a shoulder injury all year.  Another factor is that the offense under Quartaro focused on way too many WR screens and short pass plays.  The new offense is opening up the playbook and allowing the athletes to make plays. 

K-State's o-line has improved, but there's still a glaring weakness at left tackle.  I watched 2nd half of the game and Auburn's defense was consistently able to get pressure on Freeman.  I'm not saying K-State isn't a good team, but they do have weaknesses just like everyone other than the USC's of the world. 

September 05, 2007, 09:39:12 PM
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You've got about all of the actual responses I can handle.  I'm sick of your non-wavering bias, Hatter. 

You have never once given ku credit for anything.  Not even when ku smoked your team by 3 TD's last year.  I've never seen a person so unwilling to admit he was wrong.  All I can say is that you're about to find out what I've been preaching for the last few days in about a month.

ku's WR's are very good this year and we've got a QB that can get them the ball.  I laugh at your notion that there are zero vertical threats when ku had 6 different guys score TD's, and Marcus Henry and Aqib Talib went for 50 yard bombs down field.  Like I've said, you know nothing about ku.  It's clear you didn't watch the game vs. CMU and it's clear you were more than surprised by the final score.

ku's o-line is improved as well the defense.  You can doubt that until you see it for yourself.  I'm basically done trying to make valid arguments with someone who thinks K-State's o-line is better than ku's.  You can't even admit weakness when it's apparent to everyone else in the Big 12 that K-State's o-line has sucked for years now.  Auburn didn't get as many sacks because the plays were designed to get the ball out of Freeman's hands as quickly as possible.  That's the bottom line.  You can deny it until you're blue in the face.

Your team has lost its last 3 games and your QB hasn't thrown a TD since the Texas game of last season.  That's embarassing to say the least and I'm sure you'll have a justification for it in a matter of minutes.  All I know is that the same defense and the same team minus Yamon Figurs and a couple senior LB's went to ku last year and got stomped.  The battle up front was won by ku on both sides of the ball and it won't be any different this season. 


Was ku even on TV?

September 06, 2007, 07:41:53 PM
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Look, it is silly to predict a win in Manhattan, i mean the fb series and bball series almost mirror themselves, but for opposite reason.  we have destroyed you guys in bball, and lately(1990's on) you have destroyed us in fb.  now in both sports ksu has more bball talent than usual and ku has more fb talent than usual.  this will still result in ku wins in bball and a close by ksu win in fb.  so why dont we all just shut up, stop arguing about crap we cant really predict and all meet at one bar and do shots for points?  it is so much more fun that way. 

PS: save this post, this is the real coolhawks,  in reality i am a very rational guy.   :dancin:

September 06, 2007, 07:43:05 PM
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PS: save this post, this is the real coolhawks,  in reality i am a very rational guy.   :dancin:


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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 06, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
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fatty you are seeing the real me because i am talking about ku fb, and i care about ku fb about 1% as much as i care about ku bball.  if we talk bball, all i am going to do is try to get funny responses out of people and irritate people and see how far it goes, because i know in the end ku will win both games. but talking about fb, i could care less as long as ku is competitive and i can get wasted before during and after the games.

September 06, 2007, 07:47:13 PM
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Look, it is silly to predict a win in Manhattan, i mean the fb series and bball series almost mirror themselves, but for opposite reason.  we have destroyed you guys in bball, and lately(1990's on) you have destroyed us in fb.  now in both sports ksu has more bball talent than usual and ku has more fb talent than usual.  this will still result in ku wins in bball and a close by ksu win in fb.  so why dont we all just shut up, stop arguing about crap we cant really predict and all meet at one bar and do shots for points?  it is so much more fun that way. 

PS: save this post, this is the real coolhawks,  in reality i am a very rational guy.   :dancin:

he's cracking.

September 06, 2007, 08:01:09 PM
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bullcrap, i just dont feel it necessary to argue for a team i dont truly give a crap about. kansas football has always been to me what ksu basketball has been to you guys.  lucky for me we have dominated you guys in bball wayyy more than you guys have us in fb(and considering we still own the overall record by a an embarassingly large margin, i feel better). 

September 06, 2007, 08:03:13 PM
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bullcrap, i just dont feel it necessary to argue for a team i dont truly give a crap about. kansas football has always been to me what ksu basketball has been to you guys.

Wow. Son, we come from different places.

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 06, 2007, 08:04:27 PM
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bullcrap, i just dont feel it necessary to argue for a team i dont truly give a crap about. kansas football has always been to me what ksu basketball has been to you guys.  lucky for me we have dominated you guys in bball wayyy more than you guys have us in fb(and considering we still own the overall record by a an embarassingly large margin, i feel better). 

basketball :lol: :lol: :lol:

it's amazing how much better of a sport football is

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September 06, 2007, 08:06:55 PM
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K-State's o-line has improved, but there's still a glaring weakness at left tackle.  I watched 2nd half of the game and Auburn's defense was consistently able to get pressure on Freeman.

I will bet my 401K that there isn't an OC in this country who would want to have A2's task on saturday. AU's stud DE will be a top 10 pick in the draft - guarenteed! The fact that he had his first sack at the end of a poorly officiated game doesn't say $HIT about A2! I think that he will be better... without question. There might be 1 or 2 OTs who could contain that horse.

Your comparison about our glaring weakness at LT = worthless. Thanks.

September 06, 2007, 08:07:24 PM
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ok stunner, and we led the overall series by almost 30 games in the sport the nations feels is better.

September 06, 2007, 08:08:59 PM
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ok stunner, and we led the overall series by almost 30 games in the sport the nations feels is better.

i wasn't born back then, who cares

seriously, football games vs. big time opponents is really an amazing experience

September 06, 2007, 08:10:48 PM
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this is the funny thing about ksu fans, they love to preach about ksu's bball history and how competitive they so-called were with ku and then like to ignore everything before 1990 with regards to ksu football and how dominant ku was in kicking their asses.  which is it? past or present, because either way ku owns ksu overall.

September 06, 2007, 08:11:30 PM
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50-100 thousand people chanting singing and yelling is always> than 10-20 thousand.

September 06, 2007, 08:12:03 PM
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this is the funny thing about ksu fans, they love to preach about ksu's bball history


Could care less. Want our 4 final fours? You can have them.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 06, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
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"50-100 thousand people chanting singing and yelling is always> than 10-20 thousand."

to you yes. but to me 16,000 doing the rock chalk and singing and chanting together like one big magical family in a field house so historic you would think that wilt is going to run out of the concourse-heaven to me.

September 06, 2007, 08:16:06 PM
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http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=15488.0

You guys are nuts. Nothing gets me more fired up than waking up on a Saturday morning to the 12:45 ku-Nebraska battle live from Allen Fieldhouse.  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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September 06, 2007, 08:16:52 PM
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chanandler you should get tix to a ksu game when texas is in town or nubb.

September 06, 2007, 08:18:27 PM
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"50-100 thousand people chanting singing and yelling is always> than 10-20 thousand."

to you yes. but to me 16,000 doing the rock chalk and singing and chanting together like one big magical family in a field house so historic you would think that wilt is going to run out of the concourse-heaven to me.

As a ku fan and Alum, I despise you MissChanandlerBong.  I hate, repeat hate, ku basketball only fans.

September 06, 2007, 08:19:21 PM
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and you should get a tic for when mu is in town for bball

September 06, 2007, 08:21:13 PM
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oh shut up sandman, i never said i hated ku fb, i love it.  i love all ku sports, but their is no denying that my heart bleeds truly for ku bball only.  its like yeah that girl is smoking, but i will only f*ck my wife. no matter what(bad analogy, haha). 

September 06, 2007, 08:23:35 PM
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and sandman my dad has given money to ku and had fb tickets for over 25 years, so pls dont accuse us of not supporting ku fb. i was sitting in the stands with him at age 8 when we were playing some 1aa school and it was raining and 38 degrees out and there were only 7 or 8 thousand people in the stands at the most.  i have sat through the 2-10 football seasons. 

September 06, 2007, 08:25:23 PM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 06, 2007, 08:29:49 PM
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bullcrap, i just dont feel it necessary to argue for a team i dont truly give a crap about. kansas football has always been to me what ksu basketball has been to you guys.  lucky for me we have dominated you guys in bball wayyy more than you guys have us in fb(and considering we still own the overall record by a an embarassingly large margin, i feel better). 

Quite a backtrack from this post.

"I just dont feel it necessary to argue for a team i dont truly give a crap about."

So I guess you don't hate it, but you state you don't give a crap about it.  I got no problem with your dad, sounds like a decent dude.  My statement was directed at you.  It's apathetic fans like you that have allowed ku football to suffer.  What is so hard about being a basketball and football fan?  Lord.  Does basketball season wear you out and you need time to recover?  And if you don't give a crap about the ku football team, then stay off of football message boards.

September 06, 2007, 08:35:15 PM
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sandman i am sorry, i have misrepresented myself in this thread.  when i said that i was comparing it to my feelings towards ku basketball.  you could ask me how i feel about anything other than faith, family and friends to me and i would say i dont give a crap about them compared to ku basketball.  and you call me apathetic but i have been to every game with my dad when we were 2 and 10 and i would be cheering the loudest of anyone in the stadium(mainly becuase i have insanely strong vocal chords, haha).  i even one time made my buddies parents move away from us at a game(toledo game) when i was cheering so feverishly they thought i was crazy.  pls dont sit here behind your keybord and try to judge my dedication to ku sports.

September 06, 2007, 08:36:52 PM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 06, 2007, 08:38:47 PM
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"My statement was directed at you.  It's apathetic fans like you that have allowed ku football to suffer."

What an ignorant statement.  It is the fact that ku is a basketball school, as much as nebraska is a football school.  also i think al bohl and terry allen had a lot more to do with the crappy state of ku fb then a kid who likes ku basketball better.  fans are the same with regards to every team, in every sport, you gotta give em something to cheer about( and i still cheered when they gave me nothing to cheer about).  

September 06, 2007, 08:39:21 PM
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fatty dont go there, too personal and you wont get anything out of me, so dont waste your time.