here BMW...sit down w/ me and let's go over ku and Auburn offenses...

[ksuno1stunner]

Are you telling me that ku's OL is just as inexperienced as Auburn's?

Not even close.  Three guys with starting experience, one Juco transfer with Florida State offer, and a guy who's been in the program for four years.  They looked great last weekend.

ku has not seen a defense even close to half as fast as KSU's.

We saw that same defense last season and won the game by 3 TD's.

You didn't see:

Baldwin
Watts (no big deal or anything)
half of Moore
Chandler (was actually good despite what phog.net thinks)
Williams (won't see him again but he was injured IIRC)
Echols (injured IIRC)
Patterson
Abana (who is making strides)
3-4 defense

There's something about this defense that's different.  Everyone is stepping up.  It's rare you see guys this fast play so physical.  You know how Watts plays reckless and loose, just flying around and whaling at people?  Every single player is doing that now.  We destroyed Cox.

There's a reason why ESPN consider KSU a top 15 defense...this is a new year.

[sonofdaxjones]

BMW . . . I've picked KSU to 7-5 this year . . . but given that you're telling us it's all fixed over in Lawrence, why don't you cash in some of your thousands of stock options from your job and purchase those CCG tickets and a non-refundable trip package.

Auburn . . . hoping to one day be like Central Michigan.

[KSUTOMMY]

BTW BMW, Appie State would have punched ku in the freaking grill... I guess you missed that game. Next you will say that ku's offense is better than Michigan.  

[BMWJhawk]

ku is going to start out the season 4-0 and have a lot of confidence going into the K-State game.  ku gets another bye week to rest and get healthy as well as prepare an extra week for K-State.  The schedule is set up perfectly for ku to win this year in Manhattan.  

K-State fans = concerned

[Pike]

ku is going to start out the season 4-0 and have a lot of confidence going into the K-State game.  ku gets another bye week to rest and get healthy as well as prepare an extra week for K-State.  The schedule is set up perfectly for ku to win this year in Manhattan. 

K-State fans = concerned

Why are we your superbowl?

[sonofdaxjones]

Another bye week prior to playing KSU . . . how come Mangino never does this for Missouri, afterall Missouri is ku's "real" rival.

[catzacker]

The ku game will be tough.  We'll be coming off our rivalry game with Texas and going into ku's superbowl after they've had a week off. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Agree Zacker . . . with our winning record over Texas, they'll be jacked to play us, and with Mangino once again taking a bye week prior to playing ku's "non rival" KSU, things don't look good.

[Joker]

BMW's all kool-aided up, it's hilarious.

No crap.

Damn son it was one game.

Remember in '05 when KSU bitch slapped North Texas 54-7 while setting the school record for total yards (658) and we thought "holy crap we're going to kick ass this year" ?

Then we played what would be an 8-4 OU team the following week and got destroyed 43-21.

Reality set in and we finished the season 5-6.

[ednksu]

when was the last time ku played in front of 90K?  And no I dont mean the cumulative attendence at memorial for the 06 season.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

We saw that same defense last season and won the game by 3 TD's.

Did he really just type that?  Thats got to be a typo.  He really can't be that stupid can he?

ku is going to start out the season 4-0 and have a lot of confidence going into the K-State game.  ku gets another bye week to rest and get healthy as well as prepare an extra week for K-State.  The schedule is set up perfectly for ku to win this year in Manhattan.  

K-State fans = concerned

I hope ku comes in 4-0 against nobody.  That would be ku to go 4-0 against that schedule, and think it means something. 
ku is going to have a rude awakening come Big 12 season.

[KSUTOMMY]

when was the last time ku played in front of 90K?  And no I dont mean the cumulative attendence at memorial for the 06 season.

classic! 

[BMWJhawk]

This is like deja vu. 

K-State's defense was supposed to be so good last year after holding Louisville to 24 points.  Then the purple nation was silenced with the 39-20 ass-kicking.

[ksuno1stunner]

This is like deja vu. 

K-State's defense was supposed to be so good last year after holding Louisville to 24 points.  Then the purple nation was silenced with the 39-20 ass-kicking.

Are you telling me that ku's OL is just as inexperienced as Auburn's?

Not even close.  Three guys with starting experience, one Juco transfer with Florida State offer, and a guy who's been in the program for four years.  They looked great last weekend.

ku has not seen a defense even close to half as fast as KSU's.

We saw that same defense last season and won the game by 3 TD's.

You didn't see:

Baldwin
Watts (no big deal or anything)
half of Moore
Chandler (was actually good despite what phog.net thinks)
Williams (won't see him again but he was injured IIRC)
Echols (injured IIRC)
Patterson
Abana (who is making strides)
3-4 defense

There's something about this defense that's different.  Everyone is stepping up.  It's rare you see guys this fast play so physical.  You know how Watts plays reckless and loose, just flying around and whaling at people?  Every single player is doing that now.  We destroyed Cox.

There's a reason why ESPN consider KSU a top 15 defense...this is a new year.

Tibs > Raheem "Crunk" Morris

[McGrowlTowelZac]

This is like deja vu. 

K-State's defense was supposed to be so good last year after holding Louisville to 24 points.  Then the purple nation was silenced with the 39-20 ass-kicking.

We did give up 42 points to the team before ku, and Mizzou hung 30-40 on us too, so the 39 ku added, wasn't exactly shocking.  What was kinda of shocking is that KSU gift wrapped 21 points to ku.

We were happy only giving up 24 to Lville, but at no time last year, can I say the defense flew to the ball or looked as tough as they did saturday night.

[catzacker]

This is like deja vu. 

K-State's defense was supposed to be so good last year after holding Louisville to 24 points.  Then the purple nation was silenced with the 39-20 ass-kicking.

Sincerely,
ku fans after pummeling D-1AA NW St. and then staying home for bowl season.

[Arthur Carlson]

Good lord.  The football is about as big as Reesing is.  Does he grunt when he throws it?

[ednksu]

Does he grunt when he throws it?

she thinks his grunt is impressive.

[the very bone-able sharapova for those who dont know, big grunter...in a hot way though]

[Pittcat]

BMW's skull is five inches thick.  And Reesing's head is smaller than a football.

[Sandman]

First of all; we actually get to play against one another so all this silly posturing and what if's and pseudo-certainties that are being thrown out is ridiculous.  We'll actually get to find out on the field. 

Second; ku's offense (in this small sample size) certainly looks better than last year.  Much better OC and a QB who knows how to deliver the ball to his wide receivers.  Do I think ku has a better offense than AU, yes.  Reesing is better than Cox; I don't care that he is a sixth year senior, he's awful.

Third; it seems like neither ku or KSU fans want to admit that the other team looked much more impressive than either expected.  ku looks to have a legit pass defense and multiple weapons on offense.  KSU looks to have a nice D and offensive potential that hasn't been tapped (why did you not run more? Auburn had a 40ish ranked defense against the run last year). 

But this was just the first week, a lot can change.  What we believe may not mean dog crap come November/December.  But I understand this is a message board and it needs to thrive on this mindless banter.

[BMWJhawk]

Nice post, Sandman.

I'll tell you why K-State didn't run more; they're offensive line isn't built for the run.  They're a "bend but don't break" o-line that will give Freeman just enough time to throw his coveted dump passes.  Once again, this year's game will come down to the battle up front.  K-State's starting left tackle is some weak Juco transfer named Alesana Alesana (LOL) while ku's got an All Big 12 left tackle in 6'6 315 lb. Anthony Collins. 

Advantage: ku

ku's offense is clicking on all cylinders with Reesing at QB and Warriner as o-coordinator, and the defense has improved as well.  Take shots at Reesing's size all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that he went 20-29 with 261 yards and 4 TD's.  It's pretty apparent why Bill Snyder wanted him at K-State. 

[Fledermaus]

I congratulate ku.  They pulled off an impressive upset & definitely proved that they would be a contender, perhaps even the favorite, in the MAC West.  

[doom]

They'd still place two or three even in that division.

[Pittcat]

I congratulate ku.  They pulled off an impressive upset & definitely proved that they would be a contender, perhaps even the favorite, in the MAC West.  

And that fags and gentlemen pretty much sums it up!

[BullHawkWheel]

Hey stunner I will bet you straight up shots for points, but i don;t(know) think you can keep up with me. I will buy the bottle of patron. We take the shots during the game.  Bmw you can jump in on this also, but if you do I say us 3 split 2 bottles.

[ksuno1stunner]

Hey stunner I will bet you straight up shots for points, but i don;t(know) think you can keep up with me. I will buy the bottle of patron. We take the shots during the game.  Bmw you can jump in on this also, but if you do I say us 3 split 2 bottles.

I'll be at the game, unless you mean we're taking the shots at the game.  I doubt you can keep up to me.

[fatty fat fat]

CMU is bad.

[Trim]

ku is going to start out the season 4-0 and have a lot of confidence going into the K-State game.  ku gets another bye week to rest and get healthy as well as prepare an extra week for K-State.  The schedule is set up perfectly for ku to win this year in Manhattan.  

You're right.  It is.

What if ku doesn't get it done?

[ECN]

Hey stunner I will bet you straight up shots for points, but i don;t(know) think you can keep up with me. I will buy the bottle of patron. We take the shots during the game.  Bmw you can jump in on this also, but if you do I say us 3 split 2 bottles.

wait a minute....

did you say...patron?


i will destroy you. i just invited myself.

[fatty fat fat]

What if ku doesn't get it done?