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August 25, 2007, 10:51:40 AM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

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August 25, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
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He just picked Oklahoma over Missouri. He's flip flopping!

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August 25, 2007, 10:57:05 AM
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August 25, 2007, 11:23:53 AM
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wat about mark may, he picked all the favorites in all the conferences. Lou may be certifiably insane, but at least he's not a class a pussy like may. :ksu:

August 25, 2007, 11:44:01 AM
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May is good

Holtz is old, not good

August 25, 2007, 03:34:25 PM
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May always gets first picks, Holtz gets the (usually) indefensible pick.  Its schtick.

August 25, 2007, 05:46:49 PM
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I continue to wonder about Mizzou.  On paper, I do think they are the best team in the North, but the next time either Mizzou or a Pinkel-led team lives up to expectations will be the first time.

August 25, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

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He also picked Notre Dame to win 10 games while every one else thinks the will win 6 at most.

August 26, 2007, 12:25:55 AM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

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He also picked Notre Dame to win 10 games while every one else thinks the will win 6 at most.

That is called bias, but stupidity as well I suppose.
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August 26, 2007, 10:08:58 AM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

:ustupid:

He also picked Notre Dame to win 10 games while every one else thinks the will win 6 at most.

That is called bias, but stupidity as well I suppose.

I don't care whether he picks Moo to win it all.  I don't care if he ever says anything even marginally good about us.  No matter what this guy says or does he'll forever be a TOOL

Holtz  :chainsaw:

August 26, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
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Someone refresh my memory. What did Holtz say about KSU?

August 26, 2007, 08:03:41 PM
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Thanks, I just pissed my pants - that was pretty damned funny. It is perfectly clear that Holtz has Alzheimers at this point in the game as he obviously forgot that MU is still coached by Pinkel.

August 26, 2007, 11:29:43 PM
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Thanks, I just pissed my pants - that was pretty damned funny. It is perfectly clear that Holtz has Alzheimers at this point in the game as he obviously forgot that MU is still coached by Pinkel.

Ok, so he's got Alzheimers.  That just makes him a forgetful tool

August 27, 2007, 02:24:35 AM
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Someone refresh my memory. What did Holtz say about KSU?

At the end of one of its most glorious seasons, college football again is the burlesque of major sports. There is something known as the Bowl Coalition, and it was supposed to clean up the way bowl bids were handed out and backroom deals between bowls and schools were made. It also was supposed to reward the most deserving teams, maybe even settle a national championship on the field once in a while. It does none of that in its last year, before it gives way to next year's miracle cure for college football, known as the Bowl Alliance. The coalition is a failure, run by greedy bums. Sometimes they look like the overflow from boxing.

As we approach another college football postseason that could be a waste of time, with sportswriters and coaches settling the national championship instead of Nebraska settling it against Penn State, it is reassuring that the tradition of greed holds. It is why a mediocrity such as Notre Dame gets a spot in the Fiesta Bowl on January 2, when it does not deserve to be anywhere near a major bowl game.

The best Notre Dame can do in any poll with its 6-4-1 record is No. 26. That does not stop it from going to the Fiesta Bowl and making $3.2 million to play Colorado. A few weeks ago, Notre Dame Coach Lou Holtz said he would be embarrassed to go to a bowl game with his team's record. Then the Fiesta Bowl waved all that money at him. You wave money at Notre Dame, it will offer to turn the fight song into rap.

Notre Dame is college football's version of the 51st state. The Fighting Irish even have state-run television, NBC Sports in this case. NBC Sports televises Notre Dame home games. It also gets ready to televise the Fiesta Bowl for the last time. Next year the game moves to CBS, so there is absolutely no love lost between NBC and the Fiesta Bowl, even if selecting Notre Dame looks like a cheap ratings grab.

Notre Dame makes a big score on its name, not on merit. This is a season when Holtz disgraced himself by running up the score against Navy, when his team's most impressive victory might have come against that powerhouse Air Force. The best Notre Dame could do against a Southern California team it had beaten 11 consecutive times was a tie. Now Holtz says his team was a few good kicks away from being 10-1. He sounds like the beery fan at the end of the bar with the leprechaun on his T-shirt.

"We deserve to go (to the Fiesta) off our play for the last four games," Holtz says.

All the other teams have to prove themselves. The rules are different for Notre Dame teams, even those punched out by half their opponents. All they have to do is show signs of life at the finish. And here is what passes for a real big finish in South Bend: Victories over Navy and Air Force, a loss to Florida State, a tie against USC. Earlier in the season, Boston College pushed Notre Dame around the way it would push around a high school team. "Manhandled" is the word Holtz used.

Boston College goes to the Aloha Bowl on Christmas Day. Its opponent is Kansas State, which is one of the great stories of college football this season, a nowhere program that can now play with anybody. Kansas State's only losses were to Nebraska (17-6) and Colorado (35-21). KSU was down one point to Nebraska with 11 minutes to go and was tied, 21-21, in the fourth quarter with Colorado before blowing a terrific chance at the goal line. Coach Bill Snyder's players ended up with a record of 9-2, and a top-10 ranking in the coaches' poll. They are so much more deserving of a major bowl than Notre Dame it is a joke.

"A lot of things that happened in the bowls boiled down to what Notre Dame decided to do," Snyder says.


Once Notre Dame decided to go to the Fiesta Bowl, it set off a chain reaction that knocked Kansas State out of the Cotton Bowl or the Sun Bowl. So Kansas State gets $750,000 to play in the Aloha Bowl. But the Aloha doesn't pay expenses, which means the school might lose money by the time it flies everybody to Hawaii. It sure doesn't get $3 million from the Cotton Bowl, and that's a shame because this is a wonderful program all of a sudden. But it is not a television program, the way Notre Dame is. It is not close to being the kind of draw Notre Dame is, no one is. Kansas State goes to the Aloha Bowl and, by the time the showcase games are played January 2, Snyder's players will have gone home.

"We're a product of a system that doesn't seem to work very well," Snyder says. "I'm angry about the treatment we've gotten, my players are angry, our fans are angry. But our problem is a problem you run into a lot at this time of year: You don't know where to vent your anger. There isn't an individual or an institution that really seems to be in charge. You just hold it in."

Snyder, 53, was once Hayden Fry's offensive coordinator at Iowa. When he took the Kansas State job six years ago, he joked that Kansas State was the only school in the country to have lost 500 games. "And I get to coach here," he said. But he ended up with Chad May, a superb transfer quarterback from Cal State Fullerton. The last two seasons, Kansas State is 18-4-1. There isn't a coach anywhere who has done better work than Snyder. It is why Snyder and May should be the Cinderella story of January 2.

The system doesn't work for them. It works fine for Notre Dame, which ends up with the fourth-biggest payday. Notre Dame makes four times what the No. 8 team in the country makes.

First you heard Notre Dame needed to have a 7-4 record to get to a major bowl. Then you heard that if it was 6-5, or 6-4-1, that the whole thing would come down to "mutual consent" with a major bowl. It is a perfect expression for what has happened here. When Notre Dame is involved, there always seems to be plenty of consenting adults to go around.
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August 27, 2007, 02:30:50 AM
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K-State was awesome in that Aloha Bowl . . .  :yuck:

August 27, 2007, 02:34:14 AM
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K-State was awesome in that Aloha Bowl . . .  :yuck:

Am I to take it you think that because K-State didn't win the Alamo Bowl in 1998, that it didn't deserve to go to a better bowl to begin with?

August 27, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

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On the SportsCenter preview before the College GameDay Season preview, Lou was calling Missouri, ku.  The guy sucks at his current job.

August 27, 2007, 10:02:50 AM
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K-State was awesome in that Aloha Bowl . . .  :yuck:

Am I to take it you think that because K-State didn't win the Alamo Bowl in 1998, that it didn't deserve to go to a better bowl to begin with?

Easy there chief.  It was just a comment.   :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:

August 27, 2007, 11:22:07 AM
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Lou Holtz picks Missouri to not only win the North but win the Big XII Championship Game.

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On the SportsCenter preview before the College GameDay Season preview, Lou was calling Missouri, ku.  The guy sucks at his current job.

Ah yes, it reminds me of when we beat NU for the first time in forever and that fu*kstick Kieth Jackson kept calling us Kansas, and called us the freaking Jayhawks a few times! I was thrilled when I found out he had semi-retired and was only going to do west coast games - no if we can only get Burnt Cheesburger to do the same... let's focus on one crappy college announcer/commentator/reporter at a time.

August 27, 2007, 11:50:16 AM
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K-State was awesome in that Aloha Bowl . . .  :yuck:

Am I to take it you think that because K-State didn't win the Alamo Bowl in 1998, that it didn't deserve to go to a better bowl to begin with?

Easy there chief.  It was just a comment.   :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:


I know you didn't mean any harm.  I was seriously pissed in '98 about the Alamo Bowl, but I wasn't really aware of the whole bowl situation in '94 and how such a crappy ND team in effect screwed us over.  So I thought it was an interesting article about the controversy by Mike Lupica.  It is almost like a foreshadowing of things that were to come.

August 27, 2007, 02:12:25 PM
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Theriouthly, k-thtaters. That'th my thtunt double, thinthe working with May is dangerouth to anyone'th health.
For my real pickth thith year, thee thith thread:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=14812.0