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August 12, 2007, 02:16:19 AM
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Do you think Last Season will be one of his best in his career?

I mean, most coaches that inherit a 5-6 (2-6) type team usually have another crappy year to follow, something like 4-7 (1-7)

Going 7-5 in the regular season was really remarkable when you think of it.

Shouldn't we assume that his 1st team will be his weakest? Is your worry that 2006 will be his finest season?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2007, 02:30:14 AM
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This is &@#%ing Ron Prince we're talking about.  Of course we're going to get a lot better.

August 12, 2007, 02:31:20 AM
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I must admit, i fear the stars.

 :star:  :star:


 :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2007, 03:55:39 AM
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Basicly, every Fusker and Squawk said Prince would be lucky if he went 6-6 in his 1st season.  I meen come on.  Cally was under .500 and that was at almighty NU.    Fatboy over in Lowrents is still trying to get a 7 win regular season.   


August 12, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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I think this season will be more representative of what Prince is capable of.  I have no reason for thinking this, but I do.

August 12, 2007, 02:45:42 PM
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August 12, 2007, 02:53:44 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach. The only thing we know about him so far is he has trouble recruiting.
I didn't attend college

August 12, 2007, 02:56:34 PM
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Prince will get better, but wins will be tough to come by with the amount of talent in the Big 12 coming on lately. I see him getting possibly 8 wins, but not much more then that. Although he has a win against Texas under his belt, it wasn't Texas in the Big 12 Championship game last year.
It's very hard to judge a coach that has only coached in 1 year. He could get better, he could get stay stagnant, or he could completely tank. This season will be a strong indication of how the future of KSU will turn out under Prince.

August 12, 2007, 03:58:43 PM
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well lets see. I think Prince knows how to find playes a lot mroe tahn u buddy. SO was Snyder bad at it? All those low stars. Hmmmm.... I fhe can make 4 freshman freshman all americans, then he is doing something right.  Oh and alos, they were true Freshman. U base it oof of stars. Thats youjr opinion. Prince gets the hard nosed players. Not saying the higer ones arent but some of them are pampered. Lets seee nebraska. Lucky=average rb. 5*. Leon Patton=Good rb, with a horrible line. Same with johnson 3*
keller=? 4*   Freeman=solid 4*




your other players were solid recruits, but why cant u win the big 12? snyder did it with low recruits. How is the recruting bad, if he had a winning season? If he cant keep it up, then his recruiting is great. If he only wins 7 games in a season, then recruiting is bad. U brag about your recruits and bash ours before they even step on the field. Why?

August 12, 2007, 04:10:57 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach. The only thing we know about him so far is he has trouble recruiting.

So he went 7-6 last season with a team that was made up of one part players that lead the team to 4-7 and 5-6 years and another part made up of players Prince recruited (some true freshman)....and he's mediocre?  What would a superior coach have done? Take a team that went 10-3 and turning them into 5-6 team?

August 12, 2007, 04:39:17 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach.

If Prince is an unproven head coach after his first season (7-6), than what was Callahan (5-6)??

August 12, 2007, 04:50:23 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach. The only thing we know about him so far is he has trouble recruiting.

So he went 7-6 last season with a team that was made up of one part players that lead the team to 4-7 and 5-6 years and another part made up of players Prince recruited (some true freshman)....and he's mediocre?  What would a superior coach have done? Take a team that went 10-3 and turning them into 5-6 team?

KO.

August 12, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach. The only thing we know about him so far is he has trouble recruiting.

He has better QB than what NU has.

August 12, 2007, 05:42:11 PM
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The schedule is difficult enough that Kstate could be better this year than last and could fail to reach six wins and possibly a bowl.

As I see it, he proved me WRONG last year by taking us to a bowl...and Dylan Meier proved me wrong by basically bowing out his senior year looking like shizznit. I really thought he would be the man last year but he was horrible. Baylor was his swan song.


We have to protect the home turf against San Jose State, MState, ku, CU, Baylor, and Mizzou to have a shot at a bowl. Mizzou will be the toughest home matchup IMHO. Chase Daniels is accurate and efficient.

..then we need to win at Iowa State.

Fresno State could dictate if we are bowl eligible.
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August 12, 2007, 05:45:22 PM
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imo, the home games are huge. got to beat ku and mu at home and continue the dominance
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2007, 05:52:36 PM
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well lets see. I think Prince knows how to find playes a lot mroe tahn u buddy. SO was Snyder bad at it? All those low stars. Hmmmm.... I fhe can make 4 freshman freshman all americans, then he is doing something right.  Oh and alos, they were true Freshman. U base it oof of stars. Thats youjr opinion. Prince gets the hard nosed players. Not saying the higer ones arent but some of them are pampered. Lets seee nebraska. Lucky=average rb. 5*. Leon Patton=Good rb, with a horrible line. Same with johnson 3*
keller=? 4*   Freeman=solid 4*




your other players were solid recruits, but why cant u win the big 12? snyder did it with low recruits. How is the recruting bad, if he had a winning season? If he cant keep it up, then his recruiting is great. If he only wins 7 games in a season, then recruiting is bad. U brag about your recruits and bash ours before they even step on the field. Why?
Dear Lord, learn to spell/type. that was painful reading that. i just need to remind myself not to read ksuguy's posts.

August 12, 2007, 05:59:11 PM
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Silly to try and compare Callahan's first season with Princes. The circumstances regarding Solich's departure led to a small but vital group of players that were disgruntled and really disrupted the transition process. Prince is lucky that he came in when Colorado was undergoing a major coaching change and Iowa State fell flat on their faced and ended up firing their coach. He was extremely fortunate that Colt McCoy was injured or you guys don't even go to a bowl game. If Prince had played the same schedule Nebraska played in 2004, there may have been three wins for him.

At least we didn't lose to Baylor.

August 12, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
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The circumstances regarding Solich's departure led to a small but vital group of players that were disgruntled and really disrupted the transition process.

Yeah, it's not like it's the coaches job to correct that or anything.   :rolleyes:
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2007, 06:19:09 PM
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At least we didn't lose to Baylor.
I'd rather have lost to Baylor while letting Freeman get his first real taste of Division 1 football then to have Texas Tech shove 70 points up our ass  :twobirds:  What was it like watching that game anyway?  At what point did you have to shut it off and fondle your sister to take your mind off things?

August 12, 2007, 06:26:17 PM
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I wouldn't have. You guys got raped in Lubbock in 2005 as bad as we did in '04. Then you have to add this gem. Baylor  :lol:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=01JpV0iydMY

August 12, 2007, 06:33:56 PM
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Prince's 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes were fine, and this one might turn out to be too. He's getting the athletes he needs to play on his first teams. Where I would be worried though if I was a KSU fan is about depth. Prince has talented starters at most positions going into this year, but in the next few seasons if a Lamark Brown gets injured how confident are you about the guys behind him? To be fair, many of the two star athletetes will turn out just fine. Unfortunately, the number of two stars that falter compared to three stars is probably much higher. Rankings aren't the 100% accurate obviously, but they are accurate enough that if an entire class is made up of two stars you probably are going to have depth problems. Eventually, those depth problems start to bleed into your first teams. We saw a similar situation at Nebraska, and it is hard to correct once it begins.

Prince showed flashes many times last year that he could be a great coach. However, he may be in danger of backing himself into a corner recruiting-wise.  Like I said, I think your last two classes were fine. If the pattern emerging in your 2008 class continues, however, I think you might have significant problems down the road.

I hope that doesn't happen. I would rather have you guys be good than Missouri. Their fans are starting to remind me of Colorado's. Besides, I thought the series with you guys when both our teams were good was interesting.
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August 12, 2007, 06:35:40 PM
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I wouldn't have. You guys got raped in Lubbock in 2005 as bad as we did in '04. Then you have to add this gem. Baylor  :lol:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=01JpV0iydMY

a Nubb is running out of bullets when they go w/ Baylor smack.

"We're Nubb...we can't beat Texas or even Oklahoma State but at least you can't make fun of us for losing to Baylor".

Hey Nubb...USC, Texas, and Oklahoma...try beating one of those teams already.  While the Baylor loss is embarrassing...at least we have defeated an Orange Bowl champion and top 5 USC team, a 3rd ranked and defending national champ Texas team, and a #1 ranked and national title game appearing Oklahoma all w/ in the past 5 years.

Nubb?  No top 10 win since 2001.

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August 12, 2007, 06:50:16 PM
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How many of those wins were with Prince as your head coach? How many of them were against Texas with their starting QB, not a freshman that had never played before? Thanks. You can crow all you want to about beating USC in 2001. If you played them today you'd lose by a minimum of 50.

August 12, 2007, 06:54:18 PM
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You can crow all you want to about beating USC in 2001

We beat them in 2002 also.

August 12, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
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Christ. NU has never beaten UT in big 12 regular season play.

0-6.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2007, 07:02:15 PM
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Christ. NU has never beaten UT in big 12 regular season play.

0-6.

Question: which Big XII team was first to beat all the other Big XII teams?

August 12, 2007, 07:03:08 PM
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How many of those wins were with Prince as your head coach? How many of them were against Texas with their starting QB, not a freshman that had never played before? Thanks. You can crow all you want to about beating USC in 2001. If you played them today you'd lose by a minimum of 50.

KSU and Texas each had a true freshman playing at QB.  Snead was ranked as high as Freeman so he was as good per Nubb fans.

One would think that all things being equal at QB...Texas might...just might beat us.  I mean we did have a young team and new coaches in their first season w/ one another.  Meanwhile Texas had defending national champ team vets up and down the roster.

I'm sorry Nubb didn't get it done against Texas.  But LOL at your excuses.  That is what Nubb is reduced to these days...excuses.  "but but but last 30 second losses".."but but Okie State trap game"..."but but Auburn close".

Seriously...McCoy didn't play defense.  Texas gave up 45 points and trailed by 3 TD's.

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August 12, 2007, 07:04:09 PM
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Prince is a mediocre and unproven coach. The only thing we know about him so far is he has trouble recruiting.

He did get that Freeman guy, where was he committed to before he decided come here again?


I still want my cooler, bitches!

August 12, 2007, 07:04:47 PM
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Christ. NU has never beaten UT in big 12 regular season play.

0-6.

Question: which Big XII team was first to beat all the other Big XII teams?

guess who has defeated Texas in regular season Big 12 play?

If you guessed Baylor then you guessed correctly.

LOL...Nubb yet to beat Texas in Big 12 regular season play but Baylor has...lol.


August 12, 2007, 07:08:43 PM
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LOL...Nubb yet to beat Texas in Big 12 regular season play but Baylor has...lol.

Damn. Talk about finding a hidden LOL in everything.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.