2008 Presidential election

[shaft3500]

what the hell are the democrats thinking. they could steamroll this election if they just put someone half way likable up there with all this anti-republican backlash. (see: last election) yet their top two choices are an intolerable bionic woman and a half black guy. idiots...

Are you saying half-black guys aren't halfway likeable?

nope, but i am saying there are some canidates that would have a better chance at getting elected.

Remember, auburn fans vote too!

[Kat Kid]

what the hell are the democrats thinking. they could steamroll this election if they just put someone half way likable up there with all this anti-republican backlash. (see: last election) yet their top two choices are an intolerable bionic woman and a half black guy. idiots...

Are you saying half-black guys aren't halfway likeable?

nope, but i am saying there are some canidates that would have a better chance at getting elected.

Remember, auburn fans vote too!

And they haven't voted for a democrat since Wallace.

[sys]

biden or richardson.  all the others suck.  biden and richardson kind of suck too.  god, our country sucks.

[chum1]

http://www.vicfeazell.com/pres.shtml

End the War on Drugs and Legalize All Victimless Crimes.

Synchronize all those darn traffic lights (an idea whose time has come).

Deal firmly and swiftly with Iran and North Korea before it is too late. Negotiating with these two is like trying to pet a rattlesnake. You may get a couple of pets in, but it will bite you.

[Fausto]

"Why do you like Mitt?"

Mitt has real world experience. 

Why is it every seemingly every 4th U.S. Senator in running in '08.  When is the last time a sitting U.S. Senator was elected to President?

It's simple...they just don't have the leadership qualities needed and have too much of a record of flip-flopping to be taken seriously.

"Sorry you have no sense of humor (talking sock)"

So because I don't find a sock funny I have NO sense of humor.  That's funny!  Proving, yes, I do have a sense of humor.

Hey, let's all have a 420 party and watch the 'pubs YouTube debate!

Do you actually want to debate the point I highlighted...or would you rather just call me names?

[Kat Kid]

"Why do you like Mitt?"

Mitt has real world experience. 

Why is it every seemingly every 4th U.S. Senator in running in '08.  When is the last time a sitting U.S. Senator was elected to President?

It's simple...they just don't have the leadership qualities needed and have too much of a record of flip-flopping to be taken seriously.

"Sorry you have no sense of humor (talking sock)"

So because I don't find a sock funny I have NO sense of humor.  That's funny!  Proving, yes, I do have a sense of humor.

Hey, let's all have a 420 party and watch the 'pubs YouTube debate!

Do you actually want to debate the point I highlighted...or would you rather just call me names?

Your quotes about Mitt hopefully are illustrative of a deeply sarcastic sense of humor.

I don't understand why a President not being elected from the Senate since Kennedy has anything to do with the current crop of candidates and why you should or shouldn't support them.  A reasonable argument one could conceive of would be that they are unelectable based on empirical evidence.  Instead you say they don't have "leadership experience" and contrast this with Mitt's "real world experience", presumably as Governor of Massachusetts.  You finish up by hilariously asserting that Presidential candidates from the Senate "have too much of a record of flip-flopping to be taken seriously."  Have you read/listened to/researched Mitt's "evolving" positions on abortion and gay rights?  Did you decide to vote for him based solely on his Canadian Mountie Jaw-line?  WTF?


Hope this doesn't blow your mind too much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJukYUbvI

   

[Fausto]

My comments on the U.S. Senators running is not a comment to support Mitt, rather just a comment.  Sorry if you took it otherwise.  You asked a question, I gave you a succinct one sentence answer.  I should have better seperated my comments.  I don't believe I would be telling you why I like Mitt in expressing what I did as a general comment about U.S. Senators running for President.  Mitt obviously does not fall into that category and my comment was a negitive...so it really doesn't relate to him at all. 

It is obvious you don't like Romney.  I'm trying to figure out how you define "real world experience" as being the Governor of a state.  No reason to describe that further, that simply tells me the viewpoint you are coming from.  A governorship is really a political position.   It's a position within the government, which I do not define as "the real world".  If this offends you because you believe being involved in a government beaucracy is "the real world", I am sorry to have offended you.  I believe otherwise.   We will disagree.  Is a governorship more of a leadership position than a U.S. Senator...absolutely.   

I am not familiar with this Canadian Mountie Jaw-line thing you speak off.  Unfortuantely I've lived a sheltered life and never met a Canadian Mountie or in any information I've seen about them noticed they all had similar jaw-lines.  Perhaps you could tell me what physical characteristics I have seen to make me an Alan Keyes voter in previous presidential primaries?  I am interested to find out the how my mind comes to the conclusions it does in selecting Presidential candidates based on your long-standing study of it.

[Kat Kid]

How have you reconciled your distaste for flip-floppers with Romney's record?

[Fausto]

Interesting....

You don't want to answer my questions...but will continue to ask more of me.

I've never said I had a distaste for flip-floppers.  Please go back and read my one sentence where I used the term.

[Kat Kid]

Interesting....

You don't want to answer my questions...but will continue to ask more of me.

I've never said I had a distaste for flip-floppers.  Please go back and read my one sentence where I used the term.

Your question was rhetorical.

Do you define 'real world experience' as growing up in a privileged political family?  Private Equity investment?  Private sector work in general?

I I don't view 'the real world' as govt., but I don't think people that aren't running a capitalist enterprise aren't in 'the real world' either.

I just am honestly really curious as to why you support Romney?  Is it specific issues or character in general?  Do you find his explanations for why he has reversed all of his 'culture wars' positions compelling?  Do you subscribe to his 'double Gitmo' mindlessness?

My interest is piqued. 

[Fausto]

"I just am honestly really curious as to why you support Romney?"

What a perfectly put together sentence.  Yes, it appears you are questioning your curiousity as to why I support Romney.

Honestly?  No.  Not buying it.  Sorry, you've lost any credibility at this point.  Why would I seriously want to answer your questions?  (Don't worry, I don't expect you to answer that question...you've not dealt with any other of mine to this point)  So you can continue to talk about people's "jaw-line" like that matters to anything?  If you wanted to discuss this seriously at one time I would have done that with you.  Not now.  All you seemingly want to do is have me answer questions so you can continue to rail on the guy.  I don't play that game.  You can do that all on your own, without further insulting me.

Ohh, and before you pull out the "You're just voting for Romney because all of you Mormons stick together" card...I'm not Mormon.  Continue to have whatever fanatical thoughts you having come up with from your vast knowledge of me.  It's all quite funny.

This all has been a great example of the "Powertard Master" nature of this board.

[michigancat]

I don't like Romney because he thinks it's his job to protect my kids from smut.

[sys]

fausto - your responses to kk are weird.  he is just asking you to describe what you find appealing about romney.  why avoid answering?

[Fausto]

"why avoid answering?"

I have answered.  Go back and read.

Why is Kat Kid avoiding answering my questions...and why are not you calling him out for that?

[TheShocker]

I'm pretty sure that Fausto is Mitt's mommy.

[michigancat]

"why avoid answering?"

I have answered.  Go back and read.

Why is Kat Kid avoiding answering my questions...and why are not you calling him out for that?

Is this your complete answer?

Mitt has real world experience. 

[fatty fat fat]

This all has been a great example of the "Powertard Master" nature of this board.

lol's. Don't get mad that you aren't considered one of the "elites" on this message board.

[Fausto]

"Is this your complete answer?"

Hell no.  Why would I waste my time to provide a complete and full answer to a guy who has already disrepected the candidate I support saying what he previously said?  "Phony" "ignorant" etc. etc..

Rusty, that would be like me fully discussing the games I have seen Ron Anderson perform in with you.  You've already made up your mind...life is too short.

"Don't get mad that you aren't considered one of the "elites" on this message board."

Yes, LOL FFF.  My life just won't be complete until I am considered elite on this board.  I am working so hard to make that happen.  Wife, Kids, good retirement are small goals in comparison.

[michigancat]

"Is this your complete answer?"

Hell no.  Why would I waste my time to provide a complete and full answer to a guy who has already disrepected the candidate I support saying what he previously said?  "Phony" "ignorant" etc. etc..

Rusty, that would be like me fully discussing the games I have seen Ron Anderson perform in with you.  You've already made up your mind...life is too short.

Actually, I appreciated your analysis.  I think you're the only person on the planet, (save our coaches, Drexel's coaches, and the DC Assault mouthpiece) that has watched him play and noticed him, so it was good stuff.

[Kat Kid]

"why avoid answering?"

I have answered.  Go back and read.

Why is Kat Kid avoiding answering my questions...and why are not you calling him out for that?

Fausto Question (FQ):
"Why is it every seemingly every 4th U.S. Senator in running in '08.  When is the last time a sitting U.S. Senator was elected to President?"

Kat Kid Answer (KKA):
I don't understand why a President not being elected from the Senate since Kennedy has anything to do with the current crop of candidates and why you should or shouldn't support them.

Analysis:  The first question didn't even warrant a question mark on your part and was clearly rhetorical, the second I answered.

1 Question (Q) / 1 Answer (A)

FQ:  "I'm trying to figure out how you define "real world experience" as being the Governor of a state." . .

wait..


"No reason to describe that further, that simply tells me the viewpoint you are coming from."

1Q/1A + 1 aborted question by Fausto

FQ:
Perhaps you could tell me what physical characteristics I have seen to make me an Alan Keyes voter in previous presidential primaries?  I am interested to find out the how my mind comes to the conclusions it does in selecting Presidential candidates based on your long-standing study of it.

KKA:
"How have you reconciled your distaste for flip-floppers with Romney's record?"

Analysis:
The first question appears to be rhetorical, but apparently this must be the question you want answered because I answered all the rest of them.  The bolded section would require a little more cooperation.

Conclusion:
1Q/1A + 1 aborted question + 2 rhetorical quesitons + one request that you've obstructed my attempts to satisfy

I would like to enlist your help in showing me which questions (serious) I haven't answered of yours.  I would like a surge of support in helping to produce a case study on your presidential preferences, but I NEED YOUR HELP!

If you really support Romney, then stand up and tell me why or stop posting I don't care, but don't keep claiming I'm ducking some brilliantly poised questions of yours.

Hope that helps.

[michigancat]

Strippers for Ron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPfPnF4Mbog&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ereason%2Ecom%2Fblog%2Fshow%2F122222%2Ehtml

[Kat Kid]

Bump!

More discussion needed.

Paging Fausto......Fausto.......Fausto.....

[steve dave]

I'm a Brownback girl!  Sam is more conservative than Tom Osborne and he is spooky conservative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZMV9leyMA

I may ask my wife who she is voting for and then tell her I'm voting for the other person to cancel out her vote thus making her not vote (did this last year and she vowed never to tell me who she is voting for but I can find out, there are ways). 

[Kat Kid]

"Actually, just look at what Osam, uh, Barack Obama, said just yesterday. Barack Obama calling on radicals, jihadists of all different types, to come together in Iraq. That is the battlefield. That is the central place, he said. Come join us under one banner," - Mitt Romney.

Seriously.  What a piece of sh1t!

Romney's South Carolina spokesman Will Holley told reporters several hours later that Romney misspoke when discussing Obama at another point in the speech, as the AP first reported, by saying "Osam-." It was a slip of the tongue," Holley said.

It was just a 'slip of the tongue.'  Or a calculated political move. . . 

[waks]

Bump for new thoughts?

[PCR]

Mr. Hankey >>> Any of the Republicans

The Obama win was pretty exciting.  Now we will see if he can keep it going into the next week or 2.  Then the Fox News smear campaign will start in full force and hopefully the American public isn't dumb enough to fall for it this time around.  Fortunately there's a whole group of voters aged 32 and under who WILL be voting this year and don't get their news from the TV.  Big turnout among Gen Y= big problems for the old guard.

[AzCat]

Yes yes, all the young fools were going to elect Howard Dean last time weren't they?  How'd that work out for you?