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August 03, 2007, 02:55:45 PM
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"yeah, and do you realize that Keller threw FIVE INTERCEPTIONS against USC and cost his team the game?  Convenient of you to leave that out. "

and do you realize that keller was the only reason they were in that game?  and did you know that 3 of the picks that came in the 2nd half were dropped or bobbled passes by the wr's?  conveniant of you to leave that out

August 03, 2007, 03:02:34 PM
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No kidding.  People actually don't realize that they can get in trouble for the stuff they post on the internet. 

Untrue. 

It's common knowledge that Keller frequently fist rapes burn victims in children's hospitals....while on blow.  You can't swing a dead husker quarterback without hitting a post stating as much.  No one has been hunted down for that.

August 03, 2007, 03:03:32 PM
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How did Freeman do in the spring game? :chirp:

Spring Game vs. Regular Season

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Are you petitioning the NCAA to recognize that April victory?

Just think, had that one counted in '04 Callahan may have been able to prevent the bowl streak from being snapped.
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August 03, 2007, 03:03:37 PM
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Untrue.

It's common knowledge that Keller frequently fist rapes burn victims in children's hospitals....while on blow.  You can't swing a dead husker quarterback without hitting a post stating as much.  No one has been hunted down for that.

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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 03, 2007, 03:04:47 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s


 1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.  

it isn't even close.  especially when you factor in how many games Freeman played in to how many keller was in.  9 td' s and 15 picks.  that doesn't even count how many times the overside dufus fumbled the ball away.

August 03, 2007, 03:16:27 PM
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and do you realize that keller was the only reason they were in that game? 

 :bs:

Terry Richardson is the reason ASU was in the game.  That and a defense that held USC to only 3 in the first half.  But what would a NU fan know about holding USC to 3 points in a half?

Richardson's punt return for a TD, and then another to set up a scoring drive at mid-field.  That and the first half defense is what made it a game.

USC also gave up decent field position as well when they went for it on fourth down at the 37.

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August 03, 2007, 03:29:23 PM
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Bottom line is that, as a Nebraska fan, I am very excited to have Keller as our quarterback this year. I think he is going to have a great year, and I don't really care if KSU fans think he will be good right now or not. We'll all get to see soon enough.

The stuff about the drugs is just stupid. If you have a link then post it.  :users:

August 03, 2007, 03:30:54 PM
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Bottom line is that, as a Nebraska fan, I am very excited to have Keller as our quarterback this year. I think he is going to have a great year, and I don't really care if KSU fans think he will be good right now or not. We'll all get to see soon enough.

The stuff about the drugs is just stupid. If he had a line, he'd snort it.  :users:

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August 03, 2007, 03:34:37 PM
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Bottom line is that, as a Nebraska fan, I am very excited to have Keller as our quarterback this year. I think he is going to have a great year, and I don't really care if KSU fans think he will be good right now or not. We'll all get to see soon enough.

The stuff about the drugs is just stupid. If he had a line, he'd snort it.  :users:

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August 03, 2007, 06:47:09 PM
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Sources are now saying Marlon was forced to suck blow off of Samantha's wiener.  This answers everything about Marlon's overdosing and Keller's reputation for raping and swinging from the other side of the plate.  This could really affect Keller's senior season, as his hobby of sitting on boners will likely hinder his play.  You gotta feel for Marlon, it sounds like he's a big push-over, and we've already seen the results of that flaw on the field last year with his inability to break tackles, probably from of his fear of being forced into unwanted sex.  This likely stems from his run-in with Keller.
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August 03, 2007, 08:32:52 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s

Vs.

1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.


Those numbers are actually pretty close.

2165 is just a little more than 1780.  20 is just a little more than 9.  And 15 INT is just a little worse than 9 INT.  I say 1780, 9 TDs, and 15 INTs is more impressive.

GO KSU

August 03, 2007, 08:39:06 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s

Vs.

1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.


Those numbers are actually pretty close.

2165 is just a little more than 1780.  20 is just a little more than 9.  And 15 INT is just a little worse than 9 INT.  I say 1780, 9 TDs, and 15 INTs is more impressive.

GO KSU

Editorial note:

Those numbers put up by Keller were in a different system.     With Callahan, you know that Keller will struggle to meet the numbers of Josh Freeman.


August 03, 2007, 08:40:08 PM
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2005 was the year that Carpenter:

Attempted fewer passes
Completed more passes
Threw 7 fewer interceptions
Threw 17 TDs vs. Keller's 20
Went 4-2 (wins over Rutgers, Ariz, Wash, WashSt.) while Keller went 3-4 (wins over Temple, NW, and OreSt.)

Keller started against 4 winning teams, including two Top5 teams.  Carpenter started against just 2 winning teams, a good UCLA squad and 7-5 Rutgers.  If we're going to quickly point out the difference in competition when comparing Meirer and Freeman, we should probably be fair and mention the difference in competition in all comparisons.


August 03, 2007, 08:41:22 PM
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2005 was the year that Carpenter:

Attempted fewer passes
Completed more passes
Threw 7 fewer interceptions
Threw 17 TDs vs. Keller's 20
Went 4-2 (wins over Rutgers, Ariz, Wash, WashSt.) while Keller went 3-4 (wins over Temple, NW, and OreSt.)

Keller started against 4 winning teams, including two Top5 teams.  Carpenter started against just 2 winning teams, a good UCLA squad and 7-5 Rutgers.  If we're going to quickly point out the difference in competition when comparing Meirer and Freeman, we should probably be fair and mention the difference in competition in all comparisons.



Well, you know Jamal Lord was touted as being so much better than Roberson.

The spin continues.

August 03, 2007, 08:41:55 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s

Vs.

1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.


Those numbers are actually pretty close.

2165 is just a little more than 1780.  20 is just a little more than 9.  And 15 INT is just a little worse than 9 INT.  I say 1780, 9 TDs, and 15 INTs is more impressive.

GO KSU

Editorial note:

Those numbers put up by Keller were in a different system.     With Callahan, you know that Keller will struggle to meet the numbers of Josh Freeman.

I'd ask you to put your money where your mouth is, but I realize I'd just be wasting bandwidth with that request.

Freeman's numbers are more comparable to Joe Dailey's than they are to Zac Taylor's or Sam Keller's.

August 03, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
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2005 was the year that Carpenter:

Attempted fewer passes
Completed more passes
Threw 7 fewer interceptions
Threw 17 TDs vs. Keller's 20
Went 4-2 (wins over Rutgers, Ariz, Wash, WashSt.) while Keller went 3-4 (wins over Temple, NW, and OreSt.)

Keller started against 4 winning teams, including two Top5 teams.  Carpenter started against just 2 winning teams, a good UCLA squad and 7-5 Rutgers.  If we're going to quickly point out the difference in competition when comparing Meirer and Freeman, we should probably be fair and mention the difference in competition in all comparisons.



Well, you know Jamal Lord was touted as being so much better than Roberson.

The spin continues.


You make little, if any, sense.  What does someone (if anyone did) predicting Lord will be better than Roberson have to do with the fact that Keller faced tougher competition than Carpenter did?

August 03, 2007, 08:57:25 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s

Vs.

1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.


Those numbers are actually pretty close.

2165 is just a little more than 1780.  20 is just a little more than 9.  And 15 INT is just a little worse than 9 INT.  I say 1780, 9 TDs, and 15 INTs is more impressive.

GO KSU

Editorial note:

Those numbers put up by Keller were in a different system.     With Callahan, you know that Keller will struggle to meet the numbers of Josh Freeman.

I'd ask you to put your money where your mouth is, but I realize I'd just be wasting bandwidth with that request.

Freeman's numbers are more comparable to Joe Dailey's than they are to Zac Taylor's or Sam Keller's.

Money where my mouth is?

Holy Christ.. do any of you Husker fans have a penis?  Seriously, every time you're challenged by reality, you do one of two things.. wanna bet or talk about your dominating win over KSU.

You guys are so predictable.

BTW:  Do you know what Keller's numbers were as a true freshman?

Let me know.

August 03, 2007, 08:58:49 PM
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2005 was the year that Carpenter:

Attempted fewer passes
Completed more passes
Threw 7 fewer interceptions
Threw 17 TDs vs. Keller's 20
Went 4-2 (wins over Rutgers, Ariz, Wash, WashSt.) while Keller went 3-4 (wins over Temple, NW, and OreSt.)

Keller started against 4 winning teams, including two Top5 teams.  Carpenter started against just 2 winning teams, a good UCLA squad and 7-5 Rutgers.  If we're going to quickly point out the difference in competition when comparing Meirer and Freeman, we should probably be fair and mention the difference in competition in all comparisons.



Well, you know Jamal Lord was touted as being so much better than Roberson.

The spin continues.


You make little, if any, sense.  What does someone (if anyone did) predicting Lord will be better than Roberson have to do with the fact that Keller faced tougher competition than Carpenter did?

The second line of my response should have answered it for you.



August 03, 2007, 09:11:07 PM
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2165 yards, 20 TD’s, and 9 INT’s

Vs.

1780 yards, 9 TD’s, and 15 INT’s.


Those numbers are actually pretty close.

2165 is just a little more than 1780.  20 is just a little more than 9.  And 15 INT is just a little worse than 9 INT.  I say 1780, 9 TDs, and 15 INTs is more impressive.

GO KSU

Editorial note:

Those numbers put up by Keller were in a different system.     With Callahan, you know that Keller will struggle to meet the numbers of Josh Freeman.

I'd ask you to put your money where your mouth is, but I realize I'd just be wasting bandwidth with that request.

Freeman's numbers are more comparable to Joe Dailey's than they are to Zac Taylor's or Sam Keller's.

Money where my mouth is?

Holy Christ.. do any of you Husker fans have a penis?  Seriously, every time you're challenged by reality, you do one of two things.. wanna bet or talk about your dominating win over KSU.

You guys are so predictable.

BTW:  Do you know what Keller's numbers were as a true freshman?

Let me know.


Again, you make zero sense.  In comparing who will be the better QB in 2007, it doesn't matter that Freeman started more games as a true freshman than Keller did. 

You said Keller won't have the numbers Freeman had last year.  You're simply talking out of your arse if you think that's true.  And if you weren't, you'd back up your comments with something, anything, substantial. 

Then again, you have a history of being stupid.  What was your prediction for KSU last year again? 

August 03, 2007, 09:19:34 PM
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Again, you make zero sense.  In comparing who will be the better QB in 2007, it doesn't matter that Freeman started more games as a true freshman than Keller did. 

You said Keller won't have the numbers Freeman had last year.  You're simply talking out of your arse if you think that's true.  And if you weren't, you'd back up your comments with something, anything, substantial. 

Then again, you have a history of being stupid.  What was your prediction for KSU last year again? 

You're saying Keller will be better, and yet you have nothing to show for it either.  You're talking about a QB that is switching to a different system and you think he'll be even better.

And it really does matter when you're talking about how to compare QB's.   Freeman started as a true freshman, Keller didn't.   Keller started against 2 Top 5 teams and lost as a sophomore.   Freeman started against the defending National Champions and won as a true Freshman.

You want to compare Keller now to Freeman now as failsafe argument.   Freeman's ability to win big games is proven and he can do it despite his youth.    Keller has shown to be an excellent QB in the games he's played, but again, he's playing under a different system, in a different league and for you to suggest that isn't relevant shows how little you understand football.  And throwing out that backing up my arguments comes down to a "bet" makes me laugh.    I don't have to back up anything, I laid it all out there for you.    Go ahead and spin away freak. 

And my prediction last year was completely homerish and I knew that going in.  Call me crazy, but it's the same kind of homerish predictions we heard last year about Zac Taylor taking Nebraska to the NC a BCS Big 12 Championship conference title game last year.

I guess I should have shown you up and demanded we do a bet on those predictions.

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August 03, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
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You're saying Keller will be better, and yet you have nothing to show for it either.  You're talking about a QB that is switching to a different system and you think he'll be even better.

I have numbers.  They both have experience at the Div1A level.  Keller did substantially better.  Yes, Freeman was just a true freshman, and he SHOULD improve, but we don't know that he will, or how much he will.  Keller is a 5th year senior who had over a year to learn NU's system.  Look at Taylor.  He came in, started immediately (without a year to learn the system), and his numbers in 2005 were better than Freeman's numbers last year. 

And it really does matter when you're talking about how to compare QB's.   Freeman started as a true freshman, Keller didn't.   Keller started against 2 Top 5 teams and lost as a sophomore.   Freeman started against the defending National Champions and won as a true Freshman.

It doesn't matter that Keller didn't start as a true freshman.  He's much more experienced than Freeman AND he's put up better statistics than Freeman.  The only substantial bit of information you have going for you is that he's switching offenses.  He's had over a year to learn this offense. 

You want to compare Keller now to Freeman now as failsafe argument.

I didn't set the frame for the argument.  The comparison was already being made to which squad has the better QB/QBs RIGHT NOW. 

And my prediction last year was completely homerish and I knew that going in. 

Everything about you is homoish.  You're prediction that Keller won't match the numbers Freeman put up last year is also homoish.


Call me crazy, but it's the same kind of homerish predictions we heard last year about Zac Taylor taking Nebraska to the NC a BCS Big 12 Championship conference title game last year.

Any Husker fan who thought NU was going to the National Championship last game was a moron, plain and simple.  Taylor took Nebraska to the Big12 Championship game.  It could have been POSSIBLE to win the Big12 (yet highly unlikely), but the national championship?  No chance.  But, what does that prove?  It has nothing to do with YOUR moronic predictions. 

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August 03, 2007, 09:39:32 PM
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Keller got kicked out of ASU. The dude has tremendous character issues and I'm extremely excited to see him fail miserably.

Props to ASU for cutting the cancer.
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August 03, 2007, 10:00:34 PM
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You're saying Keller will be better, and yet you have nothing to show for it either.  You're talking about a QB that is switching to a different system and you think he'll be even better.

I have numbers.  They both have experience at the Div1A level.  Keller did substantially better.  Yes, Freeman was just a true freshman, and he SHOULD improve, but we don't know that he will, or how much he will.  Keller is a 5th year senior who had over a year to learn NU's system.  Look at Taylor.  He came in, started immediately (without a year to learn the system), and his numbers in 2005 were better than Freeman's numbers last year.

Again, you spin terribly bad at this by ignoring the reality of the situation.   Freeman started as true freshman, Keller did not.  Keller started in the Sun Bowl against Purdue after Andrew Walters was hurt (as a sophomore).  Keller then played after being in a system for over a year learning under an NFL draftee.

Freeman didn't.  Completely green, he goes in and wins 4 games as a starter in the Big 12, including one against the defending Big 12  and National Champions.   At the respective points in their career, Keller was a bench warmer, Freeman was a starter.

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And it really does matter when you're talking about how to compare QB's.   Freeman started as a true freshman, Keller didn't.   Keller started against 2 Top 5 teams and lost as a sophomore.   Freeman started against the defending National Champions and won as a true Freshman.

It doesn't matter that Keller didn't start as a true freshman.  He's much more experienced than Freeman AND he's put up better statistics than Freeman.  The only substantial bit of information you have going for you is that he's switching offenses.  He's had over a year to learn this offense. 

Yeah it does matter because comparing QB's at their point in time matters.   Keller at this point SHOULD be better than Freeman BECAUSE he is a veteran.   Doesn't mean he'll be better and I haven't found anything to suggest that Keller will do any better against good competition than he did at ASU.    Yet, looking at their progressions over their career's, Keller is not as good as Freeman will be.   When Freemen finishes his sophomore year, what will the numbers be?  I'm pretty sure they'll be better than Keller's sophomore campaign.. by far.

In fact, under Callahan's system, we already know that against a team that is ranked significantly higher than you, we can expect that Callahan will want to get out of the game with as few injuries as possible.   Keller I don't think can thrive in that kind of system, do you?

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You want to compare Keller now to Freeman now as failsafe argument.

I didn't set the frame for the argument.  The comparison was already being made to which squad has the better QB/QBs RIGHT NOW. 

Thanks for giving me the point.

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And my prediction last year was completely homerish and I knew that going in.

Everything about you is homoish.  You're prediction that Keller won't match the numbers Freeman put up last year is also homoish.


Nice strawman.  The issue was my score prediction, not Keller's potential for failure (large at this point).


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Call me crazy, but it's the same kind of homerish predictions we heard last year about Zac Taylor taking Nebraska to the NC a BCS Big 12 Championship conference title game last year.

Any Husker fan who thought NU was going to the National Championship last game was a moron, plain and simple.  Taylor took Nebraska to the Big12 Championship game.  It could have been POSSIBLE to win the Big12 (yet highly unlikely), but the national championship?  No chance.  But, what does that prove?  It has nothing to do with YOUR moronic predictions. 

:chirp:

Then you have a lot of moron fans.  Add your name to the list.



August 03, 2007, 10:16:55 PM
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Again, you spin terribly bad at this by ignoring the reality of the situation.   Freeman started as true freshman, Keller did not.  Keller started in the Sun Bowl against Purdue after Andrew Walters was hurt (as a sophomore).  Keller then played after being in a system for over a year learning under an NFL draftee.

You're clueless on this.  It doesn't matter that Freeman started as a freshman and Keller didn't.  That doesn't mean that Freeman will be better as a sophomore than Keller will be as a senior. 

At the respective points in their career, Keller was a bench warmer, Freeman was a starter.

See above.  In no way, shape or form does this have any significane in determining whether or not Freeman will be better as a sophomore than Keller will be as a senior. 

Yeah it does matter because comparing QB's at their point in time matters.

We're not comparing QBs at "their point in time".  We're comparing QBs NOW.  How they are NOW. 


Keller at this point SHOULD be better than Freeman BECAUSE he is a veteran.

Exactly!  And he is better.  And that will be proven this year. 

Yet, looking at their progressions over their career's, Keller is not as good as Freeman will be. 

We don't know how good Freeman will be.  His stats weren't good last year.  He looked horrible in the spring game.  Will he be great?  Who knows.  Perhaps this year he can have as good as numbers as Keller has had, who knows?

In fact, under Callahan's system, we already know that against a team that is ranked significantly higher than you, we can expect that Callahan will want to get out of the game with as few injuries as possible.

Why? Because he was conservative against USC at USC?  What about the game against Texas?  Oklahoma?  Auburn?  That's like saying "under Prince's system, we already know that against a Callahan coached team, we can expect KSU to put up no TDs."  Or, "we can expect Prince to get severely outcoached by Mangino", ect...

Keller I don't think can thrive in that kind of system, do you?

Can Keller thrive in Callahan's system?  I think so.  I'm quite confident he will.  I think he's more talented than Taylor, and if he can handle the pressure at NU, he'll do mighty well.

Then you have a lot of moron fans.  Add your name to the list.

You insulting ANYONE'S intelligence is good for a great laugh.  You're ALMOST as dumb as you look.

August 03, 2007, 10:19:35 PM
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QB - KSU.  Keller has same amount of wins as starter..and he's going to be a senior.  Nuff said.  Sure, Samantha is talented but that cokehead isn't as talented as power of one.

RB - KSU.  Lucky never met a tackle he could break.  Patton = 6 ypc in Big 12 play and great fatty video footage.  Wilson broke his stick and BJax is gonzo.  Glenn never has developed consistency.  NUbb has talent but not much productivity yet.

TE - KSU.  Seriously..JB Phillips.

WR - Nubb.  But I must say the funniest damned thing I've ever heard is several Nubbs insisting that Nate Swift is more talented than Jordy.  Nubb isn't nearly as good at receiver as they think they are but they are solid and have a lot of experience.  When Purify isn't out beating the hell out of women he's not a bad receiver.  Nunn is steady and reliable.  I'm intrigued by this true freshman from Leander, Texas w/ the goofy name.  I think he's going to be a really good one.  KSU receiving corps needs to develop before we can be comparable.

OT - Nubb.  Nicks looks like an NFL RT.  Maybe Murtha will finally be as good as Tom Lemming believed him to be when he was out of Big 10 country w/ out a Michigan, Ohio State, and Iowa offer.  Stringer is going to be pretty good but he's not there yet and who knows if he'll be healthy.  Big question mark.

Interior OL - Nubb but not by as much as they think.  Bedore is better than Byford but...Nubb moved that fat freak Slauson to his more natural position, guard.  We'll see how our guards develop...we should be okay there.  Tackle is our concern.  Nubb is not that much better in the interior.


DE - KSU, easily.  Potter has been a disappointment.  We'll see if the kid from Tennessee can defend the run.  Jackson and Abana.  Jackson is the best defense in the league, period. 

DT - NU by a mile.  Suh is one of the best DT's in the nation.  Not many know it yet but he's a monster.  More numbers for Nubb.  I think we're okay at DT but we're not as good as Nubb here.

LB - Nubb but due to experience.  Ruud and McKeon are just solid, experienced players.  Octavien has yet to live up to Nubb SuperFan's predictions...we'll see.  This could easily be even or possibly a KSU edge at some point in the season...w/ Walker, Patterson, and Campbell it's not like we're chumps.  I like Roland too though he's not spectacular.

CB - KSU.  Forget trick knee Bowman.  Jones isn't nearly as good as Nubb thinks.  We're deeper.  Baldwin and Moore are playas.  McKinney and Garvin go for the knees.  Cheatham...can't wait to get him in the mix.

Safety - Even.  Watts keeps this even.  I like NU's depth and quality better though Asante should be playing LB.  I really like Thenarse..he's going to be a great player for Nubb.

I agree with some of your assessment, but other parts are just laughable. Here are the real rankings:

QB- Keller, hands down. He has been and is both a Heisman candidate and a legitimate pro prospect. Freeman has three years left, and showed flashes of talent last year. But for this year, Keller is by far the surer thing, and will make Nebraska's offense much more explosive.

RB- Lucky, Glenn, etc. Nebraska dominates here too. I like Patton, but Lucky is a five star prospect finally ready to come into his own. Lucky has great hands, moves that can break peoples' ankles, incredible vision, and is a true burner. His wekness has been the ability to break tackles and gain yards after contact, and he's reportedly made enormous strides in that area this offseason. Look for him to have a monster year as a true featureback, being used both as a traditional runningback and also as a reciver out of the backfield.

WR- NU wins here too. Purify, despite his tough offseason, is a big, fast, and dominant #1 receiver. He makes the tough catches that move the chains, and makes the big catches that win the games. Nunn is a seasoned and savvy veteran, Swift is underrated and has great hands, Hardy is a good complement, and watch out for Niles Paul, a tough burner that may see some time as a true freshman.

TE- KSU wins here. NU has some decent talent, but has lacked a true gamebreaker since Herian was injured.

O-Line. NU wins here, no contest. Teaching a bunch of run blockers how to pass block was tough, but we finally have some upperclassmen who were recruited for this system, and have had some time to learn how it works. The O-Line has been a weakness in Callahan's tenure, especially compared to the glory years, but this is the year that the quality recruiting and time in the system start to show on the field.

D-Line. K-State likely has an experience edge here, but the talent edge goes to Nebraska. Suh is going to be a beast in the middle, and is almost unblockable. K-State may have an edge at DE, but I think Nebraska's got some real talent there that will show, especially as the season progresses.

LB. Advantage Nebraska. Ruud, McKeon, and Octavien are going to wreak some havoc, and will be able to compensate for the D-Line's inexperience early in the season. With backups like Brandenberg and Dillard, Nebraska is loaded here.

CB. Advantage: Even. This was a weakness for NU last year, and easily the weakest unit on the team. There are three keys to success this year, getting a healthy Bowman on the field, getting Jones to finally play up to his talent, and getting the young talent into the mix. If we have to use Grixby as a starter, this unit is vulnerable.

Safety. The second weakest unit for NU last year. There's talent there, but it's young and untested. Asante and Thenarse will both be great players, but it remains to be seen how soon they'll be ready for action.

Overall: Heavy Advantage to Nebraska. With an improved and explosive offense, and a solid defense, both with playmakers galore, this is the season that Nebraska starts to take the Big 12 North for granted again.
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August 03, 2007, 10:25:05 PM
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QB - KSU.  Keller has same amount of wins as starter..and he's going to be a senior.  Nuff said.  Sure, Samantha is talented but that cokehead isn't as talented as power of one.

RB - KSU.  Lucky never met a tackle he could break.  Patton = 6 ypc in Big 12 play and great fatty video footage.  Wilson broke his stick and BJax is gonzo.  Glenn never has developed consistency.  NUbb has talent but not much productivity yet.

TE - KSU.  Seriously..JB Phillips.

WR - Nubb.  But I must say the funniest damned thing I've ever heard is several Nubbs insisting that Nate Swift is more talented than Jordy.  Nubb isn't nearly as good at receiver as they think they are but they are solid and have a lot of experience.  When Purify isn't out beating the hell out of women he's not a bad receiver.  Nunn is steady and reliable.  I'm intrigued by this true freshman from Leander, Texas w/ the goofy name.  I think he's going to be a really good one.  KSU receiving corps needs to develop before we can be comparable.

OT - Nubb.  Nicks looks like an NFL RT.  Maybe Murtha will finally be as good as Tom Lemming believed him to be when he was out of Big 10 country w/ out a Michigan, Ohio State, and Iowa offer.  Stringer is going to be pretty good but he's not there yet and who knows if he'll be healthy.  Big question mark.

Interior OL - Nubb but not by as much as they think.  Bedore is better than Byford but...Nubb moved that fat freak Slauson to his more natural position, guard.  We'll see how our guards develop...we should be okay there.  Tackle is our concern.  Nubb is not that much better in the interior.


DE - KSU, easily.  Potter has been a disappointment.  We'll see if the kid from Tennessee can defend the run.  Jackson and Abana.  Jackson is the best defense in the league, period. 

DT - NU by a mile.  Suh is one of the best DT's in the nation.  Not many know it yet but he's a monster.  More numbers for Nubb.  I think we're okay at DT but we're not as good as Nubb here.

LB - Nubb but due to experience.  Ruud and McKeon are just solid, experienced players.  Octavien has yet to live up to Nubb SuperFan's predictions...we'll see.  This could easily be even or possibly a KSU edge at some point in the season...w/ Walker, Patterson, and Campbell it's not like we're chumps.  I like Roland too though he's not spectacular.

CB - KSU.  Forget trick knee Bowman.  Jones isn't nearly as good as Nubb thinks.  We're deeper.  Baldwin and Moore are playas.  McKinney and Garvin go for the knees.  Cheatham...can't wait to get him in the mix.

Safety - Even.  Watts keeps this even.  I like NU's depth and quality better though Asante should be playing LB.  I really like Thenarse..he's going to be a great player for Nubb.

I agree with some of your assessment, but other parts are just laughable. Here are the real rankings:

QB- Keller, hands down. He has been and is both a Heisman candidate and a legitimate pro prospect. Freeman has three years left, and showed flashes of talent last year. But for this year, Keller is by far the surer thing, and will make Nebraska's offense much more explosive.

RB- Lucky, Glenn, etc. Nebraska dominates here too. I like Patton, but Lucky is a five star prospect finally ready to come into his own. Lucky has great hands, moves that can break peoples' ankles, incredible vision, and is a true burner. His wekness has been the ability to break tackles and gain yards after contact, and he's reportedly made enormous strides in that area this offseason. Look for him to have a monster year as a true featureback, being used both as a traditional runningback and also as a reciver out of the backfield.

WR- NU wins here too. Purify, despite his tough offseason, is a big, fast, and dominant #1 receiver. He makes the tough catches that move the chains, and makes the big catches that win the games. Nunn is a seasoned and savvy veteran, Swift is underrated and has great hands, Hardy is a good complement, and watch out for Niles Paul, a tough burner that may see some time as a true freshman.

TE- KSU wins here. NU has some decent talent, but has lacked a true gamebreaker since Herian was injured.

O-Line. NU wins here, no contest. Teaching a bunch of run blockers how to pass block was tough, but we finally have some upperclassmen who were recruited for this system, and have had some time to learn how it works. The O-Line has been a weakness in Callahan's tenure, especially compared to the glory years, but this is the year that the quality recruiting and time in the system start to show on the field.

D-Line. K-State likely has an experience edge here, but the talent edge goes to Nebraska. Suh is going to be a beast in the middle, and is almost unblockable. K-State may have an edge at DE, but I think Nebraska's got some real talent there that will show, especially as the season progresses.

LB. Advantage Nebraska. Ruud, McKeon, and Octavien are going to wreak some havoc, and will be able to compensate for the D-Line's inexperience early in the season. With backups like Brandenberg and Dillard, Nebraska is loaded here.

CB. Advantage: Even. This was a weakness for NU last year, and easily the weakest unit on the team. There are three keys to success this year, getting a healthy Bowman on the field, getting Jones to finally play up to his talent, and getting the young talent into the mix. If we have to use Grixby as a starter, this unit is vulnerable.

Safety. The second weakest unit for NU last year. There's talent there, but it's young and untested. Asante and Thenarse will both be great players, but it remains to be seen how soon they'll be ready for action.

Overall: Heavy Advantage to Nebraska. With an improved and explosive offense, and a solid defense, both with playmakers galore, this is the season that Nebraska starts to take the Big 12 North for granted again.
Jeez. You gave NU the edge in everything or called it a tie. I think it's safe to say you were a little biased in your predictions. Just a little, though.  :blank:

August 03, 2007, 10:51:59 PM
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Again, you spin terribly bad at this by ignoring the reality of the situation.   Freeman started as true freshman, Keller did not.  Keller started in the Sun Bowl against Purdue after Andrew Walters was hurt (as a sophomore).  Keller then played after being in a system for over a year learning under an NFL draftee.

You're clueless on this.  It doesn't matter that Freeman started as a freshman and Keller didn't.  That doesn't mean that Freeman will be better as a sophomore than Keller will be as a senior. 

Whoa.  How is that clueless?  That was the facts as it was.   Are you saying that Keller as a freshman is better than Freeman as a freshman?   Oh wait, we're back to the "Well Keller is better now."

Again, that's a retarded argument, but the facts don't support that.  Statistically, Keller has better stats, but not where it counts.. in the Win column and who he won against.    Try to spin your way out of that one.



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At the respective points in their career, Keller was a bench warmer, Freeman was a starter.

See above.  In no way, shape or form does this have any significane in determining whether or not Freeman will be better as a sophomore than Keller will be as a senior. 

Yes it does, and running away from it hurts you.    Freeman and Keller are not equals, and therefore to compare them at different points in their career as the same is retarded.    Although, I don't know why I expected anything more from you.

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Yeah it does matter because comparing QB's at their point in time matters.

We're not comparing QBs at "their point in time".  We're comparing QBs NOW.  How they are NOW. 

You're still being retarded. 

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Keller at this point SHOULD be better than Freeman BECAUSE he is a veteran.

Exactly!  And he is better.  And that will be proven this year. 

And so is your retardedness.

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Yet, looking at their progressions over their career's, Keller is not as good as Freeman will be.

We don't know how good Freeman will be.  His stats weren't good last year.  He looked horrible in the spring game.  Will he be great?  Who knows.  Perhaps this year he can have as good as numbers as Keller has had, who knows?

And likewise, we won't know how good Keller will be even though Freeman has more time in his system (actual experience playing in it) than Keller does in his system.   What works for you in one scenario is rejected in another by you.   Historically, you have no evidence to back up your contention that a QB that transfers from another D-1 school does the next year in a completely different system.   Keller has talent, but whether that transfers to success on the field is very much a BIG question, despite myopia from Husker fans.

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In fact, under Callahan's system, we already know that against a team that is ranked significantly higher than you, we can expect that Callahan will want to get out of the game with as few injuries as possible.

Why? Because he was conservative against USC at USC?  What about the game against Texas?  Oklahoma?  Auburn?  That's like saying "under Prince's system, we already know that against a Callahan coached team, we can expect KSU to put up no TDs."  Or, "we can expect Prince to get severely outcoached by Mangino", ect...

Oh, so now you're saying that Callahan can't win against the big programs?   That's what we've been trying to explain to you.  Keller won't make that happen either.. his record against big time teams is abysmal.
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Keller I don't think can thrive in that kind of system, do you?

Can Keller thrive in Callahan's system?  I think so.  I'm quite confident he will.  I think he's more talented than Taylor, and if he can handle the pressure at NU, he'll do mighty well.

Hopefully, you'll win some money from poor sucker that will bet you on that.  I wouldn't do it if I were you.


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Then you have a lot of moron fans.  Add your name to the list.

You insulting ANYONE'S intelligence is good for a great laugh.  You're ALMOST as dumb as you look.

I can't insult your intelligence.  You have none.

August 04, 2007, 02:10:16 AM
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Sources are now saying Marlon was forced to suck blow off of Samantha's wiener.  This answers everything about Marlon's overdosing and Keller's reputation for raping and swinging from the other side of the plate.  This could really affect Keller's senior season, as his hobby of sitting on boners will likely hinder his play.  You gotta feel for Marlon, it sounds like he's a big push-over, and we've already seen the results of that flaw on the field last year with his inability to break tackles, probably from of his fear of being forced into unwanted sex.  This likely stems from his run-in with Keller.

 :eek: Even on a board that prides itself on classlessness, that crosses lines. I'm sorry our fans have been on here bragging about stuff but, wow, that's...I don't even know what to call it. Whatever.   

August 04, 2007, 02:37:24 AM
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Sources are now saying Marlon was forced to suck blow off of Samantha's wiener.  This answers everything about Marlon's overdosing and Keller's reputation for raping and swinging from the other side of the plate.  This could really affect Keller's senior season, as his hobby of sitting on boners will likely hinder his play.  You gotta feel for Marlon, it sounds like he's a big push-over, and we've already seen the results of that flaw on the field last year with his inability to break tackles, probably from of his fear of being forced into unwanted sex.  This likely stems from his run-in with Keller.

 :eek: Even on a board that prides itself on classlessness, that crosses lines. I'm sorry our fans have been on here bragging about stuff but, wow, that's...I don't even know what to call it. Whatever.   
lol. You know he's kidding. Just trying to get a rise out of your fellow fans (and doing a good job, libel lawsuits are on the way!).

August 04, 2007, 02:42:37 AM
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Whoa.  How is that clueless?  That was the facts as it was.   Are you saying that Keller as a freshman is better than Freeman as a freshman?   Oh wait, we're back to the "Well Keller is better now."

Hey, dolt, the whole point of the thread is to compare the positions NOW.  This isn't a "who was better as a freshman" thread.  Keller, IMO, is better NOW than Freeman is NOW.  We will find out for sure this season.


Again, that's a retarded argument, but the facts don't support that.  Statistically, Keller has better stats, but not where it counts.. in the Win column and who he won against.    Try to spin your way out of that one.

No one is doing any spin, you're just trying to be as dumb as you look.  The win-loss record is all that counts?  Freeman went 4-5 as a starter.  Keller has gone 4-4 as a starter.  What makes you think that RIGHT NOW Freeman is better than Keller?


Yes it does, and running away from it hurts you.

You're a moron.  No offense, though.  But it's true.  You are aboslutely lost and clueless as to what the point of this thread is in the first place.

Historically, you have no evidence to back up your contention that a QB that transfers from another D-1 school does the next year in a completely different system.   Keller has talent, but whether that transfers to success on the field is very much a BIG question, despite myopia from Husker fans.

NU has had nice success with QB transfers.  Zac Taylor, Scott Frost, Ferragamo.  Keller was picked as the pre-season Pac10 QB of the year by some publications.  He has all the skills, and he's a veteran of the game.  He's had over a year to learn a pro-style offense after coming from a pro-style offense.

Oh, so now you're saying that Callahan can't win against the big programs?

You are such a dolt, it's simply amazing.  


 


Hopefully, you'll win some money from poor sucker that will bet you on that.  I wouldn't do it if I were you.

You won't do it, because you're nothing but a self-proclaimed homo...errr homer.  If you're vagina hurts too much to wager money, wager something else.  Or just be sure to stand by your comments, and don't let your aching vagina get the best of you when you see how much of a complete dolt you are.  


I can't insult your intelligence. 

At last, you've made some sense.  Not only can you not insult my intelligence, you can't insult ANYONE'S intelligence.  You're seriously making me switch my mind and declare that you ARE as dumb as you look.

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