Josh Freeman...int machine...what about Kerry?..

[The Manhatter]

facts.

Pass Attempts in starts
Meier 184
Freeman 223

Interceptions in starts
Meier 10
Freeman 11

Attempts per int
Meier 18.4
Freeman 20.3

bowl teams faced in starts
Meier 3
Freeman 5

Oops...

[pissclams]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

[KungFoooKitty]

Facts are irrelevent in discussion with ku.  Similarly Husker fans like to bury their head in the sand and ignore facts.  It's best to just make things up and include moral and almost victories.

[fatty fat fat]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

Your dumb level needs to be checked.

Oh, wait. We don't have dumb scales that measure that high.

 

[pissclams]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

Your dumb level needs to be checked.

Oh, wait. We don't have dumb scales that measure that high.

 

Just because you were too young to remember the days when K-State fans wouldn't even consider comparing the two school's starting Quarterbacks doesn't make the exercise seem any less foolish.
 

[The Manhatter]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

LOL..very true.  But it's still fun to post the facts.

[catzacker]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

I concur.  I'd like to think that when compared to an weak armed, injury prone piece of crap, Josh has better numbers.  

[pissclams]

Seriously, you're comparing the Golden Boy to the Delivery Boy...the insecurity level of K-State's fanbase needs to be checked.

LOL..very true.  But it's still fun to post the facts.

Love your posts Hatter, just prefer the ones when you focus your attn to the Nubs.  This ku stuff is way below you.

[michigancat]

One of my favorite Hatter posts was the "ku Scoring Options are Being Eliminated As We Speak" one.

[Sandman]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

[catzacker]

Touchdowns are overrated.

[michigancat]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

Too lazy to look it up...what do the win totals look like?

TIA

[pissclams]

One of my favorite Hatter posts was the "ku Scoring Options are Being Eliminated As We Speak" one.

Comparing our program/players to theirs is bad.  Making fun of them is good. 

[waks]

facts.

Pass Attempts in starts
Meier 184
Freeman 223

Interceptions in starts
Meier 10
Freeman 11

Attempts per int
Meier 18.4
Freeman 20.3

bowl teams faced in starts
Meier 3
Freeman 5

Oops...

I'm curious as to what it would look like if you eliminated the "in starts" part to it. It just seems a bit selective..

[KSU4ME]

Just because you were too young to remember the days when K-State fans wouldn't even consider comparing the two school's starting Quarterbacks doesn't make the exercise seem any less foolish.

I'm "old" enough to remember when these comparisons were made:

Dylen Smith, the next Michael Bishop

MO-KAN is reporting that Dylen (pronounced "Die len") Smith is still being recruited by ku. In the Cali JUCO championship bowl game Dylen passed for 400 yards on 38 completions for 51 attempts. Descriptions would make one think of Michael Bishop in athleticism and style.

 

Verballed Kansas Over: James Madison

 

[catzacker]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

Too lazy to look it up...what do the win totals look like?

TIA

If you count moral victories, I think Meier is undefeated as a starter.

[KSU4ME]

According to a certain ku fan, the victory over UT by Freeman is really a moral defeat.

[Legore]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

Too lazy to look it up...what do the win totals look like?

TIA

Well Freeman won 4 big 12 games and no ku team has done that since the conference was formed.   So his crappy true freshman season they are always chirping about produced better results then anything any ku QB has ever done in big 12 play. 

[SUPERKSUFAN]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

Too lazy to look it up...what do the win totals look like?

TIA

Well Freeman won 4 big 12 games and no ku team has done that since the conference was formed.   So his crappy true freshman season they are always chirping about produced better results then anything any ku QB has ever done in big 12 play. 

 

[Sandman]

Total TD's:

Meier - 18
Freeman - 8

Freemans only had 6 passing TD's in 270 attempts.  Meier had 13 TD's in 184 attempts.  Just the facts.

Too lazy to look it up...what do the win totals look like?

TIA

KSU did win a few despite Freeman's performance.  Gotta love special teams. 

Meier had more than double Freeman's TD's and 2/3 the int's.  And you really can't blame Meier for ku's terrible secondary last year snatching defeat from the jaws of victory numerous times.

[KungFoooKitty]

According to a certain ku fan, the victory over UT by Freeman is really a moral defeat.

Yet another reason why ku fans should not reproduce.  This sorta of logic represents what the movie Idiocracy predicted.

[pissclams]

Just because you were too young to remember the days when K-State fans wouldn't even consider comparing the two school's starting Quarterbacks doesn't make the exercise seem any less foolish.

I'm "old" enough to remember when these comparisons were made:

Dylen Smith, the next Michael Bishop

MO-KAN is reporting that Dylen (pronounced "Die len") Smith is still being recruited by ku. In the Cali JUCO championship bowl game Dylen passed for 400 yards on 38 completions for 51 attempts. Descriptions would make one think of Michael Bishop in athleticism and style.

 

Verballed Kansas Over: James Madison

 

I said that we shouldn't be comparing our program/players to theirs.  I won't dispute the fact that you are old balls though.  'Grats!

[KSU4ME]

 

Was it too difficult to see how my example proved your point?

Good grief you're slow.

[Jayhoxx]

Hatter, post the entire list from your Phog post.  It does a pretty good job showing that Meier and Freeman are pretty comperable.  I will always think very highly of Freeman for giving us the ball 6 times in our game last year.  Quite the humanitarian.

Overall, The Manslaughter has done a pretty good job of showing that Meier and Freeman aren't much different.

[pissclams]

Was it too difficult to see how my example proved your point?

Good grief you're slow.

I'm slow enough to read your post that says-

I'm "old" enough to remember when these comparisons were made:

Dylen Smith, the next Michael Bishop

One more time for the kid missing a chromosome...This thread isn't about ku fans comparing their players/program to ours.  No one here said it was right or wrong.  We do it all the time in basketball, it's natural. The issue is when we start feeling insecure enough to start comparing ourselves to them.  Try to keep up junior.

[KSU4ME]

Man, I'm really understanding your reliance on mass liquor to meet women.  But I do now realize that your living with momma isn't necessarily your choice, it's a reality forced upon you by your own limitations.

Is it so hard to understand how the absurd comparison of Dylen to Bishop by a ku fan illustrates the sad fact that a KSU fan is now comparing our QB to ku's QB?

It kind of illustrates how far KSU has slipped.

I'll break it down even further.  No KSU fan would have ever thought of comparing our QBs to ku's from '94 - 2003.  KSU fans laughed when others made the comparisons.  This thread is about a KSU fan comparing KSU's QB to ku's.

Get it yet? 

If not, your mind has gone as limp as your johnson.

[catzacker]

Overall, The Manslaughter has done a pretty good job of showing that Meier and Freeman aren't much different.

Except for that whole Win/Loss thing.  But winning games has never been important for ku football, just the closeness of the losses, so why should it start now.  

[Jayhoxx]

They were both 4-4 as starters.

[catzacker]

They were both 4-4 as starters.

What was their conference record as starters?  TIA and LOL at your OOC.

[waks]

They were both 4-4 as starters.

And the level of competition was exactly the same, I'm sure.

Josh beat Oklahoma State - bowl team (won said bowl), Iowa State, Colorado, and no. 4 Texas - bowl team (won said bowl). He lost to no. 21 Nebraska - bowl team, no. 24 Missouri - bowl team, ku - bowl eligible (with moral victories over Baylor, Toledo, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, and Nebraska), and no. 12 ranked Rutgers - bowl team (won said bowl).

Kerry beat 4-7 Northwestern St, 4-8 Lousiana Monroe, 4-8 Iowa State, and 7-6 Kansas State. He lost to 5-7 Toledo, 7-6 OSU - bowl team (won said bowl game), 4-8 Baylor, and 8-5 Missouri - bowl team. Plus, wasn't one of those wins against a Div. I-AA team?

Josh didn't lose to a team with a losing record. Kerry lost to two. Obviously, it's not even comparable.