Lamark Brown as a receiver..Good or bad decision?

[ksuno1stunner]

You don't think other schools tried selling him on receiver too?  Like you don't think it crossed other coach's minds, "Let's promise him WR and move him later"?  Are you following the Chris Harper recruitment?

Yeah, coaches do that all the time.  Given that one of our selling points was opportunity to play on offense, though, it doesn't seem like they were.  Maybe other coaches weren't after him all that hard because he was a high academic risk?

Who knows...his recruitment seemed pretty quiet.  Looking through his updates, it seemed like all he ever said was "Missouri/Arkansas/etc is recruiting me" and that's it.  His coach must not have much experience with players like him, considering he didn't even have video on rivals, but still got on the top 100.  These is pretty much the only things he's said position-wise:

Brown said he will attend the Kansas State junior day on March 4. He also said most schools are recruiting him as an athlete.

"Most everybody has said athlete," he said. "I would like to play on the offensive side of the ball."

"I really don't know what position I'm going to play right now," Brown said. "It will be either running back or wide receiver. I don't think I have a preference, but it will be on the offensive side of the ball."

[michigancat]

OT: Someone needs to research true freshmen playing WR and their production.

We REALLY REALLY need a receiver op. jordu.

http://iowa.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=45012

^Had 49 receptions for 654 yards

[The Manhatter]

I think his commitment here had more to do with KSU being his favorite team.

Me too, but who knows.  I've also wondered if there is some sort of family connection to the school given the way he stands out like a sore thumb on our commit list (as evidenced by all of the discussion dedicated solely to him).

You don't think other schools tried selling him on receiver too?  Like you don't think it crossed other coach's minds, "Let's promise him WR and move him later"?  Are you following the Chris Harper recruitment?

Yeah, coaches do that all the time.  Given that one of our selling points was opportunity to play on offense, though, it doesn't seem like they were.  Maybe other coaches weren't after him all that hard because he was a high academic risk?

this has been entertaining since chum started posting. 

[michigancat]

Interesting:

MIKE WILLIAMS ON:
Coming to USC from Florida: "The Florida schools just didn't think I could play wide receiver. They thought I was too big or not fast enough or whatever. At USC, they had a clear-cut picture of what I could do."

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/williams_mike00.html

[The Manhatter]

the stuff about Lamark being an academic risk appears to be pure speculation started by Nubb and beak to convince themselves it had to be something like that for KSU to get a prospect of his caliber.  Fact of it is he was hooked on KSU early and never waivered.  Funny that if he was such an academic risk he was in the program the earliest a frosh could get here.

stunner, there was an article in the st. louis post dispatch...big guns were coming after Lamark.  He just wanted to go to KSU.

[ScubaSteve]

OT: Someone needs to research true freshmen playing WR and their production.

We REALLY REALLY need a receiver op. jordu.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2003&org=545&player=1

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2003&org=657&player=1

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2003&org=522&player=9

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2003&org=703&player=4

My personal favorites:

Freshman
Rk Player, Year Yds
1. Aaron Lockett, 1998 ........................................................................928
2. Kevin Lockett, 1993..........................................................................770

[ksuno1stunner]

the stuff about Lamark being an academic risk appears to be pure speculation started by Nubb and beak to convince themselves it had to be something like that for KSU to get a prospect of his caliber.  Fact of it is he was hooked on KSU early and never waivered.  Funny that if he was such an academic risk he was in the program the earliest a frosh could get here.

stunner, there was an article in the st. louis post dispatch...big guns were coming after Lamark.  He just wanted to go to KSU.

 

I wish the other lifelong KSU fans were like that!

I'm talking to you Arthur Brown and Chris Harper.

[chum1]

[Pett]

I wish the other lifelong KSU fans were like that!

I'm talking to you Arthur Brown and Chris Harper.

The big guns got the best of them. 

[Iceberg]

Sure Lamark Brown has the talent and size to be placed in other positions, but I am fine with him at WR. Several coaches passed up on Bishop because they wanted him to play positions other than QB and look how we came out in that situation.

[chum1]

Other questions:

1.  Will Lamark really be a wide receiver, contrary to what Prince said about him being an h-back?

2.  Will Lamark even see the field very much as a true freshman, or do we all just know Prince better than that?

3.  Will Lamark make a seamless transition from podunk MO football to Big XII football in spite of the odds against that?

[The Manhatter]

Other questions:

1.  Will Lamark really be a wide receiver, contrary to what Prince said about him being an h-back?

2.  Will Lamark even see the field very much as a true freshman, or do we all just know Prince better than that?

3.  Will Lamark make a seamless transition from podunk MO football to Big XII football in spite of the odds against that?

1.  H-Back, Receiver..same thing and who cares?  An H-Back led the nation in receiving in '05. 
2.  does this question need to be asked?
3.  No, it won't be seamless.  Who expects it to be?

[Iceberg]

3.  Will Lamark make a seamless transition from podunk MO football to Big XII football in spite of the odds against that?

It seems like not to long ago that another MO football stud played as a true freshman and earned National Player of the Week honors.

[chum1]

Well, if he's not going to be our savior this year, I really don't know why we would talk about him so much.

[The Manhatter]

Well, if he's not going to be our savior this year, I really don't know why we would talk about him so much.

Not sure that I can say anyone here is thinking of him as a savior THIS year.  I apologize for all of us about being exciting that we got a big athlete and we're excited about him.  We should stop talking about him.

[michigancat]

What would you like to talk about, chum?

[chum1]

Well, if he's not going to be our savior this year, I really don't know why we would talk about him so much.

Not sure that I can say anyone here is thinking of him as a savior THIS year.  I apologize for all of us about being exciting that we got a big athlete and we're excited about him.  We should stop talking about him.

Dude, we already have a catfan28 here.  And unless I missed something, we've been saying all along that we need Lamark this year because we need better receivers this year.  I'm assuming that we've not been talking about another body to come off the bench and have eight receptions all year long.

What would you like to talk about, chum?

I was suggesting that the amount of talk is entirely disproportionate to what we should realistically expect.  Controversial, I know.

[doom]

&@#%ing let him coach if he's not at a rival school, I love him.

[chum1]

Re: Reasons to be hopeful about next year.

3) receivers.  Bigger, more versatility, deeper.  Sure, we're a little wet behind the ears but nobody was healthy last season.  Jordy should be back to '05 form.  Wilson should help...I don't care if Lamark has never played receiver.  LOL.

[The Manhatter]

Re: Reasons to be hopeful about next year.

3) receivers.  Bigger, more versatility, deeper.  Sure, we're a little wet behind the ears but nobody was healthy last season.  Jordy should be back to '05 form.  Wilson should help...I don't care if Lamark has never played receiver.  LOL.

And what does that say?  Do you think you have something w/ that?

Receivers were injured.  And?

more versatility = MORE SIZE...MORE NUMBERS...One might suggest Pierce, Murphy, Hogan, and Lamark are more athletic than a thin receiving corp last year.

Get to your point already.  Did I say Lamark was going to be Roy Williams next year?

I don't think you get it...that we're excited about Lamark does not mean people are thinking he's going to catch 60 balls for a 1,000 yards....hell, all I'm hopeful for is 25 receptions for 300 yards or something.  And? 

LOL...keep reaching chum.

[ksuno1stunner]

He's the #70 or so prospect in the nation.  Would you rather talk about whether Drinkgern will bulk up to 260 from his present 230?

Chum, we love you and all, but you're just wrong regarding this thread.

[fatty fat fat]

If ever there was a GRCOAT of worst posters ever, chum would be the michael beasley.


 

[michigancat]

What would you like to talk about, chum?

I was suggesting that the amount of talk is entirely disproportionate to what we should realistically expect.  Controversial, I know.

How much would be appropriate?

[chum1]

Re: Reasons to be hopeful about next year.

3) receivers.  Bigger, more versatility, deeper.  Sure, we're a little wet behind the ears but nobody was healthy last season.  Jordy should be back to '05 form.  Wilson should help...I don't care if Lamark has never played receiver.  LOL.

And what does that say?

It says that having better receivers than we had last year (a dubious claim at best given the departure of a thrid round NFL pick) is a reason to be hopeful. 

How much would be appropriate?

Probably less than Dylan Meier had a year ago when I was just wrong about him. 

[michigancat]

How much would be appropriate?

Probably less than Dylan Meier had a year ago when I was just wrong about him. 

Then we're cool?  There was a lot more Dylan talk a year ago than there is LaMark talk right now.

[catzacker]

So what's the realistic expectation for Lamark's production this year?  The saying all along this off season is that we needed another reciever opposite of Jordy.  If Lamark's as advertised, then shouldn't he be the other starting WR?

[ScubaSteve]

If ever there was a GRCOAT of worst posters ever, chum would be the michael beasley.


 

My favorite posters constantly disappoint me.  Chum sucks.  His videos are cool though.

[fatty fat fat]

My favorite posters constantly disappoint me.  Chum sucks.  His videos are cool though.

I knew that wouldn't last. Chum has always been terrible when talking kstate sports.

The only reason you really hate is because I'm a flaming faggot liberal.

[chum1]

So, who here thinks Larmark would have played receiver for Bill Snyder as a true freshman?

[michigancat]

So, who here thinks Larmark would have played receiver for Bill Snyder as a true freshman?

I don't think Snyder would have signed Lamark....so....not me!