Right from a cornhole board . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

based on history, only 23% of the Big 12 CCG participants had a first year starting QB.

[steve dave]

I would imagine that 23% of teams (give or take 5-10%) in the big 12 have a first year starting QB in any given year making that stat meaningless.

[Maxell]

And in the history of the Big 12 conference no freshman in either division has ever led their team to a conference championship game. Only two sophomores, Eric Crouch and Major Applewhite, have led their teams to the title game-ironically in 1999 with Crouch's NU team beating Applewhite's Texas team. So basically, teams with juniors and senior QBs are the ones to look at if you want to know who is going to be playing in San Antonio this year.

I wouldn't worry (well I would if I were Kansas State) about Keller. His transfer is unprecedented in the history of the Big 12 and perhaps the history of college football. He's doing just fine right now.
 

[pissclams]

His transfer is unprecedented in the history of the Big 12 and perhaps the history of college football. He's doing just fine right now.

Sorry, I had to laugh.

[Maxell]

Name me a probable 1st round NFL QB that has transferred before his final year of eligibility?

[steve dave]

Name me a probable 1st round NFL QB that has transferred before his final year of eligibility?

There has never been one and probably never will be one.  These are easy questions.

[chum1]

I'm pretty sure that Applewhite beat Crouch in 1999.

[Maxell]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

[Huskerfan]

based on history, only 23% of the Big 12 CCG participants had a first year starting QB.

How many "first year starting QBs" are also fifth-year seniors, with big game experience against top teams like USC and LSU, and have scouts drooling over their first round NFL talent.

Apples to oranges. But it does amuse me how terrified you guys seem of what Keller will do in this offense...hence the daily threads about how he's destined to fail.  

[chum1]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

If Texas won in Austin, surely they also won the CCG.

[THRICE]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

If Texas won in Austin, surely they also won the CCG.

Nope...http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/doc_lib/120499.HTM#GAME.NEW

[chum1]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

If Texas won in Austin, surely they also won the CCG.

Nope...http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/doc_lib/120499.HTM#GAME.NEW

That source has been wrong before.  I'm not sure I'm buying it.

[THRICE]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

If Texas won in Austin, surely they also won the CCG.

Nope...http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/doc_lib/120499.HTM#GAME.NEW

That source has been wrong before.  I'm not sure I'm buying it.

:yawn:

[LimestoneOutcropping]

based on history, only 23% of the Big 12 CCG participants had a first year starting QB.

How many "first year starting QBs" are also fifth-year seniors, with big game experience against top teams like USC and LSU, and have scouts drooling over their first round NFL talent.

Apples to oranges. But it does amuse me how terrified you guys seem of what Keller will do in this offense...hence the daily threads about how he's destined to fail.  

On the list of QB's in the conference I am "terrified" of, Keller is not at the top.  He couldn't carry Daniels' jock in a wheelbarrow.

[Huskerfan]

On the list of QB's in the conference I am "terrified" of, Keller is not at the top.  He couldn't carry Daniels' jock in a wheelbarrow.

Just wait...you will be...

[steve dave]

Just wait...you will be...

   That makes you sound like such a douche bag   

[LimestoneOutcropping]

On the list of QB's in the conference I am "terrified" of, Keller is not at the top.  He couldn't carry Daniels' jock in a wheelbarrow.

Just wait...you will be...

Uh...yeah.  His winning record and leadership are proven...or something.

[sonofdaxjones]

I would imagine that 23% of teams (give or take 5-10%) in the big 12 have a first year starting QB in any given year making that stat meaningless.

No.  Those are two different stats.  You are talking about total teams in a given season that start a 1st time starter in the ENTIRE Big 12.   I am talking about CCG game participants.   The two are mutually exclusive.

[Maxell]

Yeah-Chase Daniel is a midget with no NFL future who has a history of outstanding wins. Lets see...Illinois, New Mexico, Middle Tennessee.. 

[chum1]

We own Nebraska.

[vanro031]

We own Nothing.

I fixed it for you. How many points did your powerful offense put up on us last year?

[sonofdaxjones]

Vanro in permanent validation mode now.

[KSU4ME]

Not in the CCG. Texas beat NU down in Austin during the season.

If Texas won in Austin, surely they also won the CCG.

Nope...http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/doc_lib/120499.HTM#GAME.NEW

That source has been wrong before.  I'm not sure I'm buying it.

Chum, I know the intended target missed it completely, but I thoroughly appreciated your point.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Yeah-Chase Daniel is a midget with no NFL future who has a history of outstanding wins. Lets see...Illinois, New Mexico, Middle Tennessee.. 

To you, which of Keller's career wins is the most "outstanding"?

[vanro031]

Any of you want to buy some Big 12 Championship tickets? After reading this thread I see that I don't need them..

[sonofdaxjones]

Any of you want to buy some Big 12 Championship tickets? After reading this thread I see that I don't need them..

Van now goes Huskerpediophilia on us.

[vanro031]

I think we're going to drop the football program this year and spend more time and money on women's volleyball. Guess I'll sell my flat-panel TV and get rid of DirecTv. Can I still hang out with you guys? Please.......

[steve dave]

I would imagine that 23% of teams (give or take 5-10%) in the big 12 have a first year starting QB in any given year making that stat meaningless.

No.  Those are two different stats.  You are talking about total teams in a given season that start a 1st time starter in the ENTIRE Big 12.   I am talking about CCG game participants.   The two are mutually exclusive.

Oh, my mistake, I was of the understanding that Big 12 CCG participants had to come from the ENTIRE Big 12.   

[ChicagoCat]

According to NCAA Football 08, KEller is 4h best QB in the league behind McCoy, Daniels, and whoever A&M has.  Either this is the best QB class ever to come out of one conference or Keller is not a first rounder.

That being said, a video game does not make it accurate, especially in the preseason.  However, just about the only place with Keller hype is Nebraska, even less accurate.  The rest of the nation isn't calling him a potential first rounder.  I personally would be surprised to see him go any earlier than the third.

[Slick]

based on history, only 23% of the Big 12 CCG participants had a first year starting QB.

So, what is your HI screen name and why are you buying a subscription?