We are cornering the 2* market

[catzacker]

At least we're breaking up Albinocoat™

[steve dave]

At least we're breaking up Albinocoat™

We still haven't broken up Unathleticcoat

[Ezah Miester]

2* = no athleticism

 

[steve dave]

2* = no athleticism

 

Joe Caprioglio is that you?

[superwillie8]

You guys and your freaking out about the number of stars these kids have is pure comedy.  Why don't you try to be a little more patient?  If Prince and Co. give out another 20 'ships, how many do you EXPECT to be 3 stars or more?  Be realistic people.  2007 = 2 stars (14/33)  2008 = 2 stars (5/8)  PLUS, it's early enough that it is entirely possible for some of these 2 start to get bumped up.  CHILL! 

P.S.  A 4* commit for 2007 was once a 2* rated player, who is it?

[waks]

You guys and your freaking out about the number of stars these kids have is pure comedy.  Why don't you try to be a little more patient?  If Prince and Co. give out another 20 'ships, how many do you EXPECT to be 3 stars or more?  Be realistic people.  2007 = 2 stars (14/33)  2008 = 2 stars (5/8)  PLUS, it's early enough that it is entirely possible for some of these 2 start to get bumped up.  CHILL! 

P.S.  A 4* commit for 2007 was once a 2* rated player, who is it?

Gary Chandler. But that's beside the point..



Prince's recruiting should improve every year. The Texas game was a total waste if we don't capitalize off of it in the recruiting game. It appears that recruiting is getting worse if you look at stars alone..

[FBWillie]

I remember when I was young and got all worked up about you guys complaining about 2*'s.   

[superwillie8]

You guys and your freaking out about the number of stars these kids have is pure comedy.  Why don't you try to be a little more patient?  If Prince and Co. give out another 20 'ships, how many do you EXPECT to be 3 stars or more?  Be realistic people.  2007 = 2 stars (14/33)  2008 = 2 stars (5/8)  PLUS, it's early enough that it is entirely possible for some of these 2 start to get bumped up.  CHILL! 

P.S.  A 4* commit for 2007 was once a 2* rated player, who is it?

Gary Chandler. But that's beside the point..



Prince's recruiting should improve every year. The Texas game was a total waste if we don't capitalize off of it in the recruiting game. It appears that recruiting is getting worse if you look at stars alone..

His 1st full class was NOT BAD at all.  He was inheriting a program that was coming off it's worst 2 years in 15 years.  I agree that his 2nd class needs to improve over last year, but Rivals also made it much more difficult for players to receive 3 stars and higher.  IMO, I would bet 2 of our 2* guys would be 3* if it was based on last years rating scale.  Too many people look too much into stars, not to mention the programs that are recruiting these kids do have an impact on how many stars they receive too.  I would put alot of $$$$ down that Arthur Brown would NOT be a 5 star recruit if it wasn't for Mr. Butler getting the likes of USC, OU, Miami, etc into Wichita.  He'd probably only be a 4 star if it was OU, KSU, ku, tcu, OSU, MU.    

[steve dave]

His 1st full class was NOT BAD at all.  He was inheriting a program that was coming off it's worst 2 years in 15 years.  I agree that his 2nd class needs to improve over last year, but Rivals also made it much more difficult for players to receive 3 stars and higher.  IMO, I would bet 2 of our 2* guys would be 3* if it was based on last years rating scale.  Too many people look too much into stars, not to mention the programs that are recruiting these kids do have an impact on how many stars they receive too.  I would put alot of $$$$ down that Arthur Brown would NOT be a 5 star recruit if it wasn't for Mr. Butler getting the likes of USC, OU, Miami, etc into Wichita.  He'd probably only be a 4 star if it was OU, KSU, ku, tcu, OSU, MU.    

Superwille8, you kind of sucked the wind out of this thread.  Congratulations.

[waks]

You guys and your freaking out about the number of stars these kids have is pure comedy.  Why don't you try to be a little more patient?  If Prince and Co. give out another 20 'ships, how many do you EXPECT to be 3 stars or more?  Be realistic people.  2007 = 2 stars (14/33)  2008 = 2 stars (5/8)  PLUS, it's early enough that it is entirely possible for some of these 2 start to get bumped up.  CHILL! 

P.S.  A 4* commit for 2007 was once a 2* rated player, who is it?

Gary Chandler. But that's beside the point..



Prince's recruiting should improve every year. The Texas game was a total waste if we don't capitalize off of it in the recruiting game. It appears that recruiting is getting worse if you look at stars alone..

His 1st full class was NOT BAD at all.  He was inheriting a program that was coming off it's worst 2 years in 15 years.  I agree that his 2nd class needs to improve over last year, but Rivals also made it much more difficult for players to receive 3 stars and higher.  IMO, I would bet 2 of our 2* guys would be 3* if it was based on last years rating scale.  Too many people look too much into stars, not to mention the programs that are recruiting these kids do have an impact on how many stars they receive too.  I would put alot of $$$$ down that Arthur Brown would NOT be a 5 star recruit if it wasn't for Mr. Butler getting the likes of USC, OU, Miami, etc into Wichita.  He'd probably only be a 4 star if it was OU, KSU, ku, tcu, OSU, MU.   

A. Brown already had the likes of USC, OU, and Miami recruiting him before Mr. Butler came into the picture. HTH.


You proved my point. These kids would be higher rated if better programs were going after them. The point is that NO programs are going after them. We are their only offers, maybe an Air Force or a Wyoming here or there. But that's it. Wouldn't you think that if these kids were worth a D1 scholarship that they would have been offered by better schools (or any schools, for that matter)?*

[~WabashRoll~]

I remember when I was young and got all worked up about you guys complaining about 2*'s.  

I do to.  And then I remember bringing in guys like Dylan Meier instead of Ell Roberson and Michael Bishop and guys like Matt Butler and Jesse Tetuan instead of Jeff Kelly and Jarrod Cooper.  And then I remember we started losing 6 and 7 football games in a season, instead of going to bowl games and competing for Big XII titles.

[PurpleReign]

I remember when I was young and got all worked up about you guys complaining about 2*'s.  

I do to.  And then I remember bringing in guys like Dylan Meier instead of Ell Roberson and Michael Bishop and guys like Matt Butler and Jesse Tetuan instead of Jeff Kelly and Jarrod Cooper.  And then I remember we started losing 6 and 7 football games in a season, instead of going to bowl games and competing for Big XII titles.

Kansas kids: The Downfall of KSU Football.

[kstate16]

Texas kids: the rise of KSU football

[superwillie8]

Am I happy with all of the 2* commits?  Nope, but I'm not going to sit around and bitch and moan about it either.  Prince is in year 2 of trying to turn this thing around.  You all are expecting him to be landing prospects that Coach Snyder was landing in the mid-to-late 90's! Prince and Co. landed 19 guys rated 3* or better last year in year #1.  I think that is pretty damn impressive.  The year before when he had 2 months to recruit he got 13 guys rated 3* or better.  So IMO he's improved so far.  The point I'm trying to make is people need to be more patient when it comes to judging this recruiting class.  

[catzacker]

Not to start the argument back up again, but I think this is the kind of player that Butler was referring to in terms of 4th tier Texas player. 

[SUPERKSUFAN]

I don't give a crap how many stars they have....it is the way they play on the field that matters...imo

[sonofdaxjones]

Why do I open these threads, when I know it's going to be a bunch of bitching and moaning from guys whoh were between 1-4 years old when Bill Snyder took over at KSU.

I am currently looking at the 2004 recruiting class list and just laughing,  just a few months after we won the Big 12 and Snyder and staff laid a recruiting turd.

Look at the 2004 4* Matt Boss, man, I can't wait to watch that stud this year.

Steve Burch 4*  LOL!!

Willie Williams in da house!!

Geezus.

[sonofdaxjones]

A kid who started for Katy, TX and was all district as a Junior is NOT a FOURTH tier Texas player.

[stormnut]

Why do I open these threads, when I know it's going to be a bunch of bitching and moaning from guys whoh were between 1-4 years old when Bill Snyder took over at KSU.

I am currently looking at the 2004 recruiting class list and just laughing,  just a few months after we won the Big 12 and Snyder and staff laid a recruiting turd.

Look at the 2004 4* Matt Boss, man, I can't wait to watch that stud this year.

Steve Burch 4*  LOL!!

Willie Williams in da house!!

Geezus.

No stop putting facts into this discussion.

[PurpleReign]

Had Steve Burch made it back for his senior season, he would have been a pretty good player IMHO.

[FBWillie]

I remember when I was young and got all worked up about you guys complaining about 2*'s.  

I do to.  And then I remember bringing in guys like Dylan Meier instead of Ell Roberson and Michael Bishop and guys like Matt Butler and Jesse Tetuan instead of Jeff Kelly and Jarrod Cooper.  And then I remember we started losing 6 and 7 football games in a season, instead of going to bowl games and competing for Big XII titles.

You have no idea what I'm talking about.

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh yeah, one really, really important thing . . . what the f_ck does it matter how many stars a kid has, if he's not even on campus to play the game??

Players actually BEING THERE is a huge factor . . . ya know, if Cody Lee Smith hadn't had the perpetual pukes, I bet he could've been one hell of a QB.

Oh and Jeff Kelly was a stud, but it wasn't like he was listed as some 5* star phenom, and the same with Cooper . . . man, some of you people don't have a clue.

[catzacker]

Oh yeah, one really, really important thing . . . what the f_ck does it matter how many stars a kid has, if he's not even on campus to play the game??

Players actually BEING THERE is a huge factor . . . ya know, if Cody Lee Smith hadn't had the perpetual pukes, I bet he could've been one hell of a QB.

Oh and Jeff Kelly was a stud, but it wasn't like he was listed as some 5* star phenom, and the same with Cooper . . . man, some of you people don't have a clue.

Stars are all that matter.

[doom]

Oh yeah, one really, really important thing . . . what the f_ck does it matter how many stars a kid has, if he's not even on campus to play the game??

Players actually BEING THERE is a huge factor . . . ya know, if Cody Lee Smith hadn't had the perpetual pukes, I bet he could've been one hell of a QB.

Oh and Jeff Kelly was a stud, but it wasn't like he was listed as some 5* star phenom, and the same with Cooper . . . man, some of you people don't have a clue.

Stars are all that matter.

Schools and offer lists are also good factors.

[fatty fat fat]

Oh yeah, one really, really important thing . . . what the f_ck does it matter how many stars a kid has, if he's not even on campus to play the game??

Players actually BEING THERE is a huge factor . . . ya know, if Cody Lee Smith hadn't had the perpetual pukes, I bet he could've been one hell of a QB.

Oh and Jeff Kelly was a stud, but it wasn't like he was listed as some 5* star phenom, and the same with Cooper . . . man, some of you people don't have a clue.

O.K. Cool. So, if you want to take that approach then there is no reason to get excited when we land a 3/4*** type player.

[catzacker]

I'm still upset over Josh Portis

[steve dave]

Josh Portis

  Just when I started to forget

[opcat]

YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE COACH.  OBVIOUSLY MOST OF YOU BELIEVE LAST SEASON WAS A FLukE.

[steve dave]

LAST SEASON WAS A FLukE.

QFT

[The Whale]

LOOK AT HOW LOUD I HAVE TO YELL............