Author Topic: Is Dwaine Barnes still our future Director of Basketball Operations? (Read 1452 times)

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 06:49:14 AM

I thought this was a done deal...

Maybe it's Art Alvarez, now? FDOBOAA has a nice ring to it.

sys · April 21, 2006, 06:59:47 AM

maybe barnes is going to be DoBOing this year? and thus mayo and walker need a new home for a year?

why alvarez's team and not stright's?

sys · April 21, 2006, 07:03:45 AM

holy sh*t. i posted once on phog this a.m. and am now getting the "maximum limit" message. i've never been banned or max limited from any board before. ever.

i thought only muck-rucking trouble makers like "trips", rusty and their ilk had to deal with that. i feel dirty.

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 07:16:10 AM

E-thug.

I just got my first banning last week, then my first "max limit" the next week.

Barnes is Mayo's legal guardian, so the DoBO thing this year would make some sense. The Nike-Addias thing just makes this more weird.

sys · April 21, 2006, 07:24:28 AM

yeah. i'm going to lose a lot of street cred* by stating this, but i just don't get the role of shoes in the recruiting game.

like the thing with duke stopping recruitment of love because nike told them too. what the hell? duke needs nike more than nike needs duke?

* phrase adapted from "trips"

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 07:33:05 AM

That's right, dollar signs.

Reebok donated $10k+ worth of equipment to NCH once Walker and Mayo signed up:

Good Mayo summary article.

KSt8er · April 21, 2006, 08:42:01 AM

a little more like Rome (the city, not the dipcrap) every day..........

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 08:44:35 AM

Jim Rome kicks ass.

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 03:08:59 PM

If things keep up the way they've been going, Barnes won't have any say in Mayo's matters. Nike "people" are in his head, telling Mayo things he didn't want to listen to before. He was on the Oak Hill campus Thursday, according to a source. Oak Hill, of course, is a Nike school. The Miami Tropics, of course, a Nike AAU team. Yes, this shoe stuff is serious business, especially when they finally get in the ear of the nation's top junior who seems to be in a bit of a power struggle about his future. If it keeps up like this - and this is pure conjecture on my part, nothing else - the chances of him winding up in Manhattan are slim. Very slim.

Think about it - how big of a coup for Nike is he for Nike to be pulling this stuff now? There is more money to be gotten by signing a shoe contract - did you see what the Swoosh gave LeBron? - than spending a year at K-State. They'd just stash him in Europe or have him train at IMG or something like that.

chum1 · April 21, 2006, 03:24:08 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on April 21, 2006, 03:08:59 PM

Think about it - how big of a coup for Nike is he for Nike to be pulling this stuff now? There is more money to be gotten by signing a shoe contract - did you see what the Swoosh gave LeBron? - than spending a year at K-State. They'd just stash him in Europe or have him train at IMG or something like that.

Wouldn't there be more buzz and, as a result, more money to be made in the future if he went to an NCAA school? I don't see why Nike wouldn't think that they could lock him up after a year of college.

fatty fat fat · April 21, 2006, 03:25:53 PM

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O.J. is thinking about it.

- Michael Beasley

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 03:27:44 PM

More buzz, sure, but then couldn't adidas swoop in and throw an absurd amount of money at him? Or Reebok? if you have control, as nike appears to have now, you don't take any chances.

Of course, this is just my opinion. You'll never see me write any of this in the Eagle. Unless it happens, of course.

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 03:29:21 PM

Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 21, 2006, 03:25:53 PM

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O.J. is thinking about it.
- Michael Beasley

Hey, I never said he wasn't thinking about it. Just giving you an idea of how this might play out, obviously an idea you don't want to hear.

fatty fat fat · April 21, 2006, 03:29:28 PM

Damn. Makes sense.

The dream had to end sometime.

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 03:30:35 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on April 21, 2006, 03:08:59 PM

Think about it - how big of a coup for Nike is he for Nike to be pulling this stuff now? There is more money to be gotten by signing a shoe contract - did you see what the Swoosh gave LeBron? - than spending a year at K-State. They'd just stash him in Europe or have him train at IMG or something like that.

But why would Nike want to do that? Mayo gets no exposure at IMG or Europe when he could be the centerpiece of college basketball with these other guys at K-State (a Nike school). The only reason they would do that is if they are afraid of losing him or they want to lock him up in a long term deal before he can get the chance to show that he is a phenom and the price rises. I doubt either of those things would bother them and they would probably prefer that he has a big freshman year wearing Nikes. They won't lose him, they have deeper pockets than anyone else.

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 03:37:34 PM

I wish Steve Miller was still at Nike.

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 03:41:35 PM

Why wouldn't Nike just sign him now? He could still play AAU ball and go to IMG or Europe this winter instead of high school. If he doesn't need college ball why would he need high school ball either?

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 03:46:40 PM

Who's going to buy the shoes of a high school dropout? Sounds silly, but it's true. Whatever you may think of Nike, they at least PRETEND to be socially aware and conscious. What kind of message are you sending my rewarding a basketball prodigy with a multi-million dollar contract but he couldn't finish high school? You're basically telling kids it's OK to not go to school because you can still get paid. Nike doesn't want that type of heat.

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 03:49:19 PM

I'm not saying he wouldn't finish high school and get a degree. He just wouldn't be eligible to play in high school athletics. There are a lot of tennis players that do the same thing.

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 03:56:43 PM

Maybe. It's always an option. Everything is an option.

Remember, though, I'm just talking out of my ass. For real. Just creating conversation, something to mull over. I mean, the stuff my sources said is legitimate. Everything else I've pieced together - with some help from a few friends. But don't let this rain on your parade.

fatty fat fat · April 21, 2006, 04:04:24 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on April 21, 2006, 03:56:43 PM

Maybe. It's always an option. Everything is an option.

Remember, though, I'm just talking out of my ass. For real. Just creating conversation, something to mull over. I mean, the stuff my sources said is legitimate. Everything else I've pieced together - with some help from a few friends. But don't let this rain on your parade.

Good stuff in tomorrows eagle?

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 04:16:29 PM

He turned 18 last November. I bet he & Nike are finding a way to get in next year's draft. Maybe get his GED in June which would be a year before the draft or possibly go to Europe for the year and then be considered a foreign player?

I am not talking out of my ass.

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 04:24:23 PM

Jeff - what happened with the Sonny Vaccarro/Mayo relationship?

Also, how does Bill Walker fit into all of this? Somehow, it seems like the freaking #2 recruit in the country is getting "lost in the shuffle".

michigancat · April 21, 2006, 04:37:45 PM

Oh, and BTW, Jeff:

This info kicks ass. Great work.

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 05:16:10 PM

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(i) The player (A) is or will be at least 19 years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, and (B) with respect to a player who is not an international player (defined below), at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player’s graduation from high school (or, if the player did not graduate from high school, since the graduation of the class with which the player would have graduated had he graduated from high school);

OK, I'm a nerd. I read the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

It says a "foreign player" has to reside outside the country for 3 years. So that option is out.

However, the requirement is that "(1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player's graduation from high school" which means (to me) that Mayo would have until next November to complete his degree if he wants to get in the 2007 draft. I think Nike and whatever agent he gets wouldn't have a problem making that happen.

That also could explain why he is not committed to a single AAU team for the summer - he may be busy studying.

Jeffrey_Martin · April 21, 2006, 05:22:10 PM

I'm pretty sure he isn't studying. I think that's part of the problem...

plaincat · April 21, 2006, 05:29:28 PM

I still like my theory. If he can't get a GED by November I would be shocked.

WILDCAT NATION · April 25, 2006, 07:55:50 AM

Anybody watched the documentary on Sebastian TelFair that's been running on one of the ESPN's?

Jeffrey_Martin · April 25, 2006, 11:13:46 AM

For the record, my theory isn't looking so far-flung now, is it?

WILDCAT NATION · April 25, 2006, 11:53:24 AM

How long before the NCAA effectively shuts down these prep schools? I'm guessing within 3 years or so...and they will try to take over AAU stuff too...

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