Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:

[michigancat]

I think that's crap. These kids don't give a damn about a combine sitting front and center or anything else for that matter related to KSU being an AG school.
The only people who really care are the type of people that visit this board.

No, the sheep could really make a difference.  Probably not as significant as eliminating the 2.5 hour drive, but still.

[ATLCAT21]

It will decrease our chances of sneaking in a ram when we are kicked out of the Big 12 and are reverted to playing our new arch rival Colorado State in conference play in the Mountain West.  Would PETA get upset with throwing sheep onto the field???

[sonofdaxjones]

I think that's crap. These kids don't give a damn about a combine sitting front and center or anything else for that matter related to KSU being an AG school.
The only people who really care are the type of people that visit this board. 

USC is SCLA, should we build gangs, graffiti, and a swap meet around the complex to help facilitate recruiting?

Okay . . . 

[pissclams]

Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 

[michigancat]

Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 

I don't think having a desire to put up a (hopefully) attractive building across the street from our athletic complex and displacing sheep in the process = inferiority complex.

Constant whining about Arthur Brown not coming, though....

I'm sure USC tries to downplay it's ghetto-ness, Arkansas and Auburn try to downplay their hickness, etc.  It just makes sense to do (simple) things that may help with recruiting.

[waks]

No, it won't make one difference in recruiting but if it is an attractive building then I am all for having it replace the sheep pasture.

[chum1]

Anyone who thinks that the presence of a sheep field accross from USC's campus would adversely affect thier recruiting is disassociated from me effective immediately.

[pissclams]

Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 

I don't think having a desire to put up a (hopefully) attractive building across the street from our athletic complex and displacing sheep in the process = inferiority complex.

Constant whining about Arthur Brown not coming, though....

I'm sure USC tries to downplay it's ghetto-ness, Arkansas and Auburn try to downplay their hickness, etc.  It just makes sense to do (simple) things that may help with recruiting.

Seems to me that this thread has gone away from putting up a cool building to let's get rid of any semblance of tractors, sheep, or fields or farm stuff.  Maybe I misinterpreted.  I love cool buildings.  

[michigancat]

Seems to me that this thread has gone away from putting up a cool building to let's get rid of any semblance of tractors, sheep, or fields or farm stuff.  Maybe I misinterpreted.  I love cool buildings. 

Yeah, a typical message board leap of logic.  I'm just saying it's not a bad thing, it could potentially help recruiting (even if the effect is minimal), and it isn't necessarily throwing our land grant/ag roots away.

[catzacker]

The sheep and cattle give us farm cred...without it Garth will disassociate himself from KSU. 

[pissclams]

My dream is for our marketing team to have a calendar/schedule poster this year for our basketball squad with Beasley, Walker, Pullen, Hoskins, etc all decked out in overalls and straw hats sitting on tractors outside of an old barn and holding basketballs. 

[sonofdaxjones]

This thread is funny.

I don't think adding some nice building on campus by the football stadium is going to make anyone think KSU doesn't have an Ag School.  Although calling KSU an "ag school" does that really fit anymore, considering that the School of Ag is only the 5th largest school on campus in terms of enrollment??   Albeit, it is by far and away the most capital intensive College within the greater University.

That being said, I don't think a huge walled sign on Kimball that says "International Grain Science Center" or whatever it says is going to let anyone forget that KSU doesn't have a College of Agriculture anytime soon.   Nor will buildings that say Co-Op Extension, Vet-Med Complex, Equine Center, Animal Science and Industry et. al.

 

[TTownCatFan]

It seems to me that the foundation will have many employees..which leads me to believe they will have lots of parking...and they dont work on saturdays do they?  So there should be another fair sized parking lot right next to the stadium now?  granted not as much as a crap filled tailgating field, but im personally all about tailgating where animals dont crap.

[stubborncat]

It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

[michigancat]

I always park for free at the old hospital and walk, anyway.

[sonofdaxjones]

It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

When is the Grain Science Complex going to be completed??

[waks]

It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

Holy crap. Another Dax!

Have you by any chance been disassociated from the university recently?

[sonofdaxjones]

You're all disassociated in your own way, you just don't know it yet.

 

[stubborncat]

It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

When is the Grain Science Complex going to be completed??

You will have to ask the Board of Regents and the State Legislature that question.  It was always the plan to use state funds to build the main teaching building of the new grain science complex and private funds to build the other four buildings on the new campus.  Money to build the new feed mill next to the new flour mill is currently being raised as part of the Changing Lives.  Unfortunately the feed industry has not jumped on the bandwagon and been as responsive as quickly as the milling industry was in providing funds for the new flour mill but I think they still hope to have the new feed mill built within the next three years.  As for the main teaching building it still is not showing up on the latest 5 year funding chart with the Board of Regents so it is a ways out.  As much of a struggle as it is becoming to secure money from the state for these types of buildings I suspect before it is all said and done the school will have to reach out to the private section to fund more of this building than they ever planned if they want it built anytime soon.  Unless the school can show that Shellenberger Hall is about ready to fall down I think it is going to be very tough to get $50 million out of the state anytime soon with the focus now on funding deferred maintenance projects. 
 
 
 

[Racquetball_Ninja]

Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.

QFT

Its about time, the old Foundation looks like a haunted manor.  A friend of mine is a DBA over so if I can get any inside info. I'll pass it along.  Not that any of you classless fockers would care.   

[purplehiatt]

The foundation building as far as I know is also going to be LEED certified (green building).  I had saw the plans that "won" the "blind design competition" I thought it looked pretty nice, but those plans have basically been scrapped from what I have heard.  The firm I used to work for "won" the project...but are no longer in control of it now.

[ew2x4]

hiatt, Did you work for BBN? I used to work for AKA (they won the KSU oncall bid). I've been out of the loop. Who's doing it now?

[purplehiatt]

No, I worked for a firm out of wichita...they won the initial blind design phase, but eventually lost the project, as ksu wanted to move in a different direction.

[Iceberg]

Where will the sheep go?

Late post I know... (been "working" in Colorado this last week). The research centers are trying to mover further north. Don't knock me for knowing this, but I figured I would at to the conversation. The ag research units are trying to move further north for accomidate for other facilities... both educational and non-educational (aka, foundation). The sheep unit is moving north of the beef unit. The other facilities (North Farm) will remain mostly as is, becuase of the value of research use.

[CatWoman]

They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.  

I also think it'll ruin the tailgating atmosphere. They already screwed it up with the buildings directly across the street from the east paved lots. They are slowly ruining the absolute best tailgating in the BigXII. Seriously. I have been to all the stadiums in the conference, and NO ONE comes close to us. C'mon students. Start emailing and complaining to Welfald. At least maybe he won't let "anything else" take up anymore tailgate space. 

[waks]

I'd rather park on a paved lot than a sheep field. There isn't anything bad about this.

[CatWoman]

waks, quit following me! 

[waks]

waks, quit following me!