Self to Florida story getting legs...

[RckChlkHawks]

Excerpt from the Jayhawk handbook: When the future looks grim, focus on the past!

So being a pre-season top 3 team and a favorite for the Final 4 makes our future look bleak?  Good call there

[QuinnMac]

Who was talking about KSU?  Also, I like playing the tradition game.  Based on your philosophy, recruits should be knocking down the doors to come to K-State since we have a Top25 bb program all time.

Go ahead and start back-tracking.  I'll wait. 

KSUCK a top 25 program of all time??  Yeah maybe if you start counting from the bottom   


And yes it is about tradition, with Donavan gone Florida will slide back into nothing once again. If Kansas and Florida were to recruit the same player heavily, 9 out of 10 times the kid is coming to Lawrence

daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/

there it is douchebag, we are in FACT in the top 25 all time basketball programs.  < that's you

A. One random website (that also doesnt work) listing KSUCK as a top 25 program doesnt mean @#%$.  Show me something credible from a realistic source or hell show me something that even merits KSUCK being mentioned at all besides the most embarassing streak in college basketball?   So no this does not in fact make you a top program unless like I said peviously...you count from the bottom.  Top programs dont skip out on the postseason for decades at a time retard.

it's from the Street and Smith's magazine not a random website.... dumbass. sorry about the link, just google it and it will show up.

Again, one random website doesnt mean @#%$. Top programs dont take decade long breaks from the post-season, that right there eliminates you from any contention on anything worth any relevance

Again the opinion of 1 mancer lover on this website doesn't mean @#%$.

[ds43fan]

In this thread, we have a KSU fan bashing ku for a lack of NC's while a different KSU fan claims KSU has a top 25 tradition even though KSU has won zero NC's.

Only Wildcat fans.

where was that link that said we were like #22? and it said that after 15 years of sucking

[Iceberg]

Who was talking about KSU?  Also, I like playing the tradition game.  Based on your philosophy, recruits should be knocking down the doors to come to K-State since we have a Top25 bb program all time.

Go ahead and start back-tracking.  I'll wait. 

KSUCK a top 25 program of all time??  Yeah maybe if you start counting from the bottom   


And yes it is about tradition, with Donavan gone Florida will slide back into nothing once again. If Kansas and Florida were to recruit the same player heavily, 9 out of 10 times the kid is coming to Lawrence

daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/

there it is douchebag, we are in FACT in the top 25 all time basketball programs.  < that's you

A. One random website (that also doesnt work) listing KSUCK as a top 25 program doesnt mean @#%$.  Show me something credible from a realistic source or hell show me something that even merits KSUCK being mentioned at all besides the most embarassing streak in college basketball?   So no this does not in fact make you a top program unless like I said peviously...you count from the bottom.  Top programs dont skip out on the postseason for decades at a time retard.

When you are done giving Rush his reach around, read this....


And you will see we are the top 22 program overall in college basketball. And that was before our number one recruiting class came to town.

[~WabashRoll~]

Ahh, the ol' ku we've got better "tradition" than everyone else circle jerk.  A time honored Jayhawk tradition around these parts.

If only you could ever just get it done when it counts, like the rest of your "elite" and real rivals like Duke, UNC, UCLA, Kentucky.  You know, those other schools with a bevy of league titles and piles of McDonald's All Americans.  They're just like you, except they actually win National Titles every once in a while.

Florida with more national title in the last two years than good ol ku in the last 50.

That's really got to blow. 

[Pike]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

[roohawk]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

[fatty fat fat]

LOL@ku and "elite"

They were pretty much KSU until roy came along.

[roohawk]

LOL@ku and "elite"

They were pretty much KSU until roy came along.

Aside from playing home games in the State of Kansas, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!

ku had a few down years prior to Brown, but KSU has never had a Naismith or a Wilt or a Manning.  If it had, it too might have an NCAA championship banner -- rather than the "Led ku at halftime" one that currently is the pinnacle of success in Bramlage.

[fatty fat fat]

And ku football had Gale Sayers. ku football is probaly the largest joke among BCS schools.

Wilt = meh, bfd. Manning = richmond was better. Naismith? What?

[Dan Rydell]

LOL@ku and "elite"

They were pretty much KSU until roy came along.

Aside from playing home games in the State of Kansas, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!

ku had a few down years prior to Brown, but KSU has never had a Naismith or a Wilt or a Manning.  If it had, it too might have an NCAA championship banner -- rather than the "Led ku at halftime" one that currently is the pinnacle of success in Bramlage.

Could you show me the NCAA championships--or hell, even any pretend national championships--that Naismith or Wilt helped win for ku?  TIA!

 

[fatty fat fat]

Not to mention the fact of 59-55 and it's alliance with GRCOAT.

[roohawk]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

LOL!

James Naismith -- only ku coach with a losing record.  This is like a Royals' fan bragging about how Harmon Killebrew and Gaylord Perry played for them.

Phog Allen -- won 1 NCAA championship, so he's got about half the resume of Billy Donovan.  Decent.

Dean Smith -- couldn't give a crap about ku.  Stabbed them in the back to get Roy to North Carolina, the school Dean loves infinitely more. 

Adolph Rupp -- racist.

Wilt Chamberlain -- couldn't eat on Mass Street.  Stayed as far away from ku as possible for most of the rest of his life. 

Nice "tradition."

So I guess Kentucky and North Carolina (Dean was on campus this last year) can't be elite either.  Great argument!

[fatty fat fat]

I love how your run your mouth despite halftime scoreboard sprinkled in with GRCOAT.

[ds43fan]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

LOL!

James Naismith -- only ku coach with a losing record.  This is like a Royals' fan bragging about how Harmon Killebrew and Gaylord Perry played for them.

Phog Allen -- won 1 NCAA championship, so he's got about half the resume of Billy Donovan.  Decent.

Dean Smith -- couldn't give a crap about ku.  Stabbed them in the back to get Roy to North Carolina, the school Dean loves infinitely more. 

Adolph Rupp -- racist.

Wilt Chamberlain -- couldn't eat on Mass Street.  Stayed as far away from ku as possible for most of the rest of his life. 

Nice "tradition."

So I guess Kentucky and North Carolina (Dean was on campus this last year) can't be elite either.  Great argument!

explain this will be funny

[roohawk]

LOL@ku and "elite"

They were pretty much KSU until roy came along.

Aside from playing home games in the State of Kansas, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!

ku had a few down years prior to Brown, but KSU has never had a Naismith or a Wilt or a Manning.  If it had, it too might have an NCAA championship banner -- rather than the "Led ku at halftime" one that currently is the pinnacle of success in Bramlage.

Could you show me the NCAA championships--or hell, even any pretend national championships--that Naismith or Wilt helped win for ku?  TIA!

 

A tradition of excellence brings excellence: the presence of those like Naismith and Wilt on the ku campus helped ensure that coaches like Larry Brown would arrive to bring forth a National Championship. 

You would know nothing of this concept, supporting K-State.

[roohawk]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

LOL!

James Naismith -- only ku coach with a losing record.  This is like a Royals' fan bragging about how Harmon Killebrew and Gaylord Perry played for them.

Phog Allen -- won 1 NCAA championship, so he's got about half the resume of Billy Donovan.  Decent.

Dean Smith -- couldn't give a crap about ku.  Stabbed them in the back to get Roy to North Carolina, the school Dean loves infinitely more. 

Adolph Rupp -- racist.

Wilt Chamberlain -- couldn't eat on Mass Street.  Stayed as far away from ku as possible for most of the rest of his life. 

Nice "tradition."

So I guess Kentucky and North Carolina (Dean was on campus this last year) can't be elite either.  Great argument!

explain this will be funny

That sentence is what's funny!

[ds43fan]

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

[roohawk]

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

Kentucky and North Carolina are elite. 

But the history of both schools successful basketball teams (and their subsequent elite status) originates at ku.

[ds43fan]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

LOL!

James Naismith -- only ku coach with a losing record.  This is like a Royals' fan bragging about how Harmon Killebrew and Gaylord Perry played for them.

Phog Allen -- won 1 NCAA championship, so he's got about half the resume of Billy Donovan.  Decent.

Dean Smith -- couldn't give a crap about ku.  Stabbed them in the back to get Roy to North Carolina, the school Dean loves infinitely more. 

Adolph Rupp -- racist.

Wilt Chamberlain -- couldn't eat on Mass Street.  Stayed as far away from ku as possible for most of the rest of his life. 

Nice "tradition."

So I guess Kentucky and North Carolina (Dean was on campus this last year) can't be elite either.  Great argument!

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

Kentucky and North Carolina are elite. 

way to contridict yourself there

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

But the history of both schools successful basketball teams (and their subsequent elite status) originates at ku.

kinda like how k-state's football tradition originates at iowa  look just because dean smith and honestly i pay very little attention to college basketball history but how ever kentucky's tradition got started (guessing dean smith) coached at ku as an assistant doesn't mean that their tradition originates at ku

[roohawk]

"But thats more NCs then KSUck has ever!!"

Well we don't claim to be "elite". ku used to be but not really anymore.

Correction: You CANNOT claim to be elite.  ku can.  And ONLY when James Naismith, Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Wilt Chamberlain etc. etc., become inconsequential names in basketball, will ku no longer be able to call itself "elite".  Until then, our 4 national championships, including 2 in the NCAA tournament era, as well as being in sole possession of first place (a position attained in 2007 -- so stick your "used to" up your you-know-where) in total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite.

LOL!

James Naismith -- only ku coach with a losing record.  This is like a Royals' fan bragging about how Harmon Killebrew and Gaylord Perry played for them.

Phog Allen -- won 1 NCAA championship, so he's got about half the resume of Billy Donovan.  Decent.

Dean Smith -- couldn't give a crap about ku.  Stabbed them in the back to get Roy to North Carolina, the school Dean loves infinitely more. 

Adolph Rupp -- racist.

Wilt Chamberlain -- couldn't eat on Mass Street.  Stayed as far away from ku as possible for most of the rest of his life. 

Nice "tradition."

So I guess Kentucky and North Carolina (Dean was on campus this last year) can't be elite either.  Great argument!

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

Kentucky and North Carolina are elite. 

way to contridict yourself there

you have no argument to explain why kentucky and north carolina arent elite do you

But the history of both schools successful basketball teams (and their subsequent elite status) originates at ku.

kinda like how k-state's football tradition originates at iowa  look just because dean smith and honestly i pay very little attention to college basketball history but how ever kentucky's tradition got started (guessing dean smith) coached at ku as an assistant doesn't mean that their tradition originates at ku

Please look up sarcasm; you seem to lack an understanding of it.

[ds43fan]

sarcasm? or knowing you got beat?

[roohawk]

sarcasm? or knowing you got beat?

OK...you win...enjoy! 

Note to self: Do not attempt to make 'clever' comments in the presence of morons

[ds43fan]

sarcasm? or knowing you got beat?

OK...you win...enjoy! 

thanks for admiting it

Note to self: Do not attempt to make 'clever' comments in the presence of morons

ah but you have to be clever to make clever comments

[~WabashRoll~]

The thing I always love about the we're more "elite" argument from ku fan is that it always comes back to the imaginary national titles.

Always predictable.  Always hilarious.

[SaltyWings]

In this thread, we have a KSU fan bashing ku for a lack of NC's while a different KSU fan claims KSU has a top 25 tradition even though KSU has won zero NC's.

Only Wildcat fans.

where was that link that said we were like #22? and it said that after 15 years of sucking

I would bet that same list had ku somewhere in the top 5.

So if you believe KSU is a top 25 program historically, then you cannot deny that ku is an elite program historically.  That's quite a conundrum for you Kitty fans.

[ERA7777]

"total conference championships speak to ku's domination of the sport, and its proper place among the elite. "

Claiming that winning a bunch of basketball conference championships in a football conference is laughable.  I guess that's all that ku fans can hang their hat on though.  That sucks.   

[ksutwisted]

Salty,

Again, the debate is tradition v. "what have you done lately".  ku probably is an elite program HISTORICALLY.  The whole debate here (which you seemed to have missed) is whether it is better to have great tradition or recent success.  I think most of the people here are laughing at ku's claim of being a current elite program.  Nobody is denying that ku has had some past success.  Take their recent history compared to Florida's though.....

Also, you don't seem to understand why I brought up K-State's ranking on that list.  Mancer was having a hayday with the whole "tradition is better than recent success" rant.  I simply added that in there to shut him up bc I knew there was no way in hell he would keep up with that rant once shown that KSU has great bb tradition, too.  I'm not arguing for the tradition standpoint.  I just wanted to see him stumble and backtrack.  Instead, he shut up once he realized that YES, KSU does have tradition.  Worked better than I imagined it would. 

[LimestoneOutcropping]

So KSU gets to claim the Stoops' successes?  So we DO actually have a national title in football.

[pissclams]

The Kitty comment cuts deep.  This isn't Kstatefans/Phog Salty, GMAFB.