Brando why??

[CatRoch]

the real reason Rush isn't going to the NBA

http://www.kansas.com/249/story/80773.html

Welcome back to the ku bench

[royalswild]

nah ku might play him sometime in february and he will blow his knee's out

[Im not so stupid]

Hmmm Thats funny didnt Popcorn Bill W  have the same problem?  I guess they do things different in Mancrappin,,, who worked on his knee a V :ustupid:et???

[CatRoch]

Hmmm Thats funny didnt Popcorn Bill W  have the same problem?  I guess they do things different in Mancrappin,,, who worked on his knee a V :ustupid:et???

Wow and gayU just gets dumber and dumber....Last time I checked Bill Walker didn't try to go to the NBA and then come back to the school just to use the medical program to rehab his knee....NO in fact he came back to play for us after he lost his coach (the reason he came to KSU) and to fulfill his commitment to play. They both blew their knees but Bill didn't take advantage of the school he decided to stay and help....
 

[chum1]

CF0102 TOTD?

[bigdeal]

They'll both probably be fine with a good surgeon and proper rehab....now how much explosiveness returns, and how quickly is a question.  The bigger question is timing.  If Rush tore up his ACL, he is looking at 6 mo minimum...with a June surgery, he likely won't even be back on the court until around the first of the year.  Congrats ku fans, you'll probably get a partial year of Rush, and then another year because he'll need to come back for his Sr. year if he only gets 10-15 games this next season. 

[Legore]

He won't be back to normal in 6 months he may be back on the court but even that is questionable.  Six months is a real aggressive recovery time for him and I question if it's really smart for him to come back that quickly. 

[bigdeal]

No, he won't be back to normal in that time frame...I was just considering Popcorn's time frame for getting back out on the court.  The rehab they do now is quite good and neither will be on the court until they have lateral mobility and can physically do everything...now mentally trusting the knee and getting back the explosiveness, those will both take time.  Everyone is different in recovery times but these guys will have the best rehab opportunities that are available.  Remember when J.J. Smith came back in like 4 months from an ACL?  That was amazing.  I've torn up ACL's on both knees from hoops and the doctors told me about a year to get back on the court each time.  Of course, I could only rehab once a day and didn't have constant access to a trainer, a whirlpool, etc. 

[BullHawkWheel]

Andy Katz has reported Rush back by earley december at the latest.  ku coaches expect to have him practicing by nov 1st and ready for the ku Arizona game Nov 25th. 

[WildCatzPhreak]

He'll probably be able to play by late November, but probably won't be back to full strength until Jan-Feb.  ACL tears just suck..

[waks]

Your coaches are retarded then. Why would you &@#% with an ACL? He won't be at full strength until January.

[JTKSU]

Andy Katz has reported Rush back by earley december at the latest.  ku coaches expect to have him practicing by nov 1st and ready for the ku Arizona game Nov 25th. 

Just another example of what a dumbass Self is.  They would rather win a (in the scheme of things) meaningless game in November than prepare for the Dance.  I personally would rather have a completely healthy Rush come tourney time, but I guess Self has made it out of the first round one more time than me in the last three years.

[snart]

Rush’s ACL tore, Walker’s ACL ruptured.  The tear usually only require arthroscopic surgery to smooth the tear.  Ruptures require the ACL to be re-placed with either a cadaver ACL or a tendon from another part of Walker’s body.  Ruptures take longer to heal but the replaced ACL is much stronger than the original ACL was.  Tear’s that are shaved are very prone to being re-torn or ruptured in the future...

[konofo]

Andy Katz has reported Rush back by earley december at the latest.  ku coaches expect to have him practicing by nov 1st and ready for the ku Arizona game Nov 25th. 

Reporting predictions or expectations like this before the surgery has even happened is about as useful as predicting next year's Final Four before anyone has even started practice.  Utterly meaningless.  For someone like Katz, it doesn't matter if what you say is correct, as long as you manage to say it first.

kono

[Legore]

Andy Katz has reported Rush back by earley december at the latest.  ku coaches expect to have him practicing by nov 1st and ready for the ku Arizona game Nov 25th. 

I saw that but I don't see it happening.  In the NFL they often say a year for an ACL tear and two years to be totally back to normal.  November 1 would be a 4 month recovery never heard of such a thing for an ACL.  Bill Walker's happened 5 months ago and he's still not back yet don't think he's even back to playing pick up yet much less competitive bball.  Honestly I doubt Walker is even full go by November 1 probably be January or so before he's fully recovered.  I hope Rush recovers and does well but I don't think trying to start practice 4 months after ACL surgery is a good idea. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Just a few weeks ago walker was only allowed to go full speed on standard sprints, no line drills, no full speed lateral movements.

The funniest thing of all is you've got wonder what kind of theatrics the academic staff is pulling over at ku just to keep Rush eligible.

Keep spawn of deadbeat dad in your thoughts as well.

[RckChlkHawks]

Hmmm Thats funny didnt Popcorn Bill W  have the same problem?  I guess they do things different in Mancrappin,,, who worked on his knee a V :ustupid:et???

Wow and gayU just gets dumber and dumber....Last time I checked Bill Walker didn't try to go to the NBA and then come back to the school just to use the medical program to rehab his knee....NO in fact he came back to play for us after he lost his coach (the reason he came to KSU) and to fulfill his commitment to play. They both blew their knees but Bill didn't take advantage of the school he decided to stay and help....
 

Thats because he would have had to sit a year before playing for another school dips.hit, otherwise he would have been out of your horrid program faster then you could say paper knee. Anyways, Rush will be ready to play by late November at the latest, we have the use of great team doctors unlike KSUCK

[PowerCatNation]

Yall ku fans are retarded, he wont be full strength in Nov. and by the way, JaRon said he might not even play next year.  So go back to your "sex in the city" and frisbe golf and forget about Rush for next season.

[ERA7777]

Rush being back by December is being VERY optimistic.  Dr. Katz and Dr. Self have no idea what they're talking about. 

“Playing shape … six to nine months,” Benjamin said. “Four months is when I ask the question, ‘Will I let the guy rehab aggressively?’ Four months is out of the question to play Kansas basketball. Out of the question.”

-Johnny Benjamin, the chairman of the department of orthopedics at Indian River Medical Center in Vero Beach, Fla

[bigdeal]

Snart, where did you get your info?  I think you're thinking about a cartilage tear where they shave out the broken cartilage...then you're back in a week or two.  An ACL is a ligament that keeps the top of the leg from sliding forward over the lower part of the leg.  If it is not torn completely, I have been told it can heal but I've been told that usually means strengthening the muscles around it for extra stability, and rest (no pounding) for awhile.  I guess maybe if part of it is sliding around that could definitely cause pain and maybe that is the shaving you're talking about.  Everything I have heard made it sound like it was torn completely, meaning the remnants of the ACL need to be removed, and a cadaver or other tendon needs to be screwed onto the attaching bones to take its place.  And yes, ACL tears suck! 

[SupremeWildcat]

According to Bong, Self must know more than the surgeon.  LOL

[snart]

Snart, where did you get your info?

From what I "thought" I remembered.  But from WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/Anterior-Cruciate-Ligament-ACL-Injuries-Topic-Overview

An ACL injury can involve a small or medium tear of the ligament, a complete tear of the ligament (rupture), a separation of the ligament from the upper or lower leg bone (avulsion), or a separation of the ligament and part of the bone from the rest of the bone (avulsion fracture). When any of these occur, the lower leg bone may move abnormally forward on the upper bone, with a sense of the knee being unstable.

I was under the impression that a ‘rupture’ was the same thing as a separation, but it is actually a complete tear without separation.  So the question that begs is: “did Rush have a small, medium, or complete tear of his ACL?”

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Keep spawn of deadbeat dad in your thoughts as well.

No kidding.  That kid just went from Pembroke to just plain broke. 

[steve dave]

Keep spawn of deadbeat dad in your thoughts as well.

No kidding.  That kid just went from Pembroke to just plain broke. 

We should start a fund to pay for that poor bastard's food, vaccinations, education, etc. Oh wait, nevermind, I already pay for all of that for him every time I pay income taxes. 

[WildCatzPhreak]

Keep spawn of deadbeat dad in your thoughts as well.

No kidding.  That kid just went from Pembroke to just plain broke. 

We should start a fund to pay for that poor bastard's food, vaccinations, education, etc. Oh wait, nevermind, I already pay for all of that for him every time I pay income taxes. 

You've contributed more to that kids well being that Brandon "Deadbeat" Rush has.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Keep spawn of deadbeat dad in your thoughts as well.

No kidding.  That kid just went from Pembroke to just plain broke. 

We should start a fund to pay for that poor bastard's food, vaccinations, education, etc. Oh wait, nevermind, I already pay for all of that for him every time I pay income taxes. 

Wow.  Your words have some real sting to them.  kudos. 

[Skipper44]

I have had ACL surgery on both knees, one was a tear and one was a rupture.  My surgeon advised me to just have the tear "cleaned up" as I was 25 and any competitive playing was defintely behind me.  I am curious if this is the route Rush is going if he does have a tear and not a  complete rupture.   

If they just clean it up, he will be on the court faster and his explosiveness will return sooner, but will the NBA be leary of
the weaker ligament?  Also, the possibility of a reinjuring is higher.  On the other hand, if he has a replacement and sits out 07-08, plays for ku in 08-09 he will be 24 by the time training camp starts in 09 for the NBA and that could be a negative for his draft position. 

In hindsight, he should have left last year when he still had some "upside" in the minds of NBA scouts.

[Legore]

Based on everything I've heard he's not having his cleanded up he's having full blown ACL repair.   A competitive athelte like him would not want to be left with a weakened tendon.  The clean-ups are for 40 year old desk jockey's not a guy that wants to play in the NBA.

[snart]

he's having full blown ACL repair

Then you're looking at least 6 months before any significant strain can be put on it and probably closer to 8 months before you can play competitively.  For Walker that puts him it September to play and for Rush that puts him into next February...

[Skipper44]

As Snart said above, if its a full replacement, this BS that BS is floating in the media about Rush playing in December is laughable.  It reminds me of the spin that you would get from the Chiefs or somebody that needs to sell season tickets.