chum, those are good "tard" characteristics. However, "ksufans East" has changed quite a bit the last year or so after a ton of people signed on during the coaching changes. Its really a whole different monster than it was 5 years ago. The "FREAK" stuff has definately died down, and if anything its just as or more prevalent here as it is there. Still plenty of homerism (of which I'll admit I lean) but there is also plenty of the opposite there now. In fact, it drives the "true homers" nuts and some are even leaving b/c of it, or at least they claim they are.