New PG...

[waks]

Josue Soto. Is he worth offering??

[atybimf]

yes.  I think he's exactly the type of guy we need running the point.  he's apparently a 'pass-first' point guard.

I also want V-Dub.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I would take this kid, apparently FSU did everything they could to keep him, so maybe that says something.

[michigancat]

The guy's a four star on scout and #111 on rivals.

I'd say that's offer worthy, plus it takes a roster spot that might be otherwise filled by a really crappy player in 08-09.


http://www.kansas.com/248/story/53464.html

[ksu_FAN]

This would be a great get for Martin.  He could be in the system and learn for a year while sitting out, then be in the mix with Pullen and Brown for 08-09.  Offered by FSU, Indiana, and Wake Forest, so the kids has to have some talent.

[chum1]

Of the players we have a shot with, wouldn't he be considered the best available?

[michigancat]

Of the players we have a shot with, wouldn't he be considered the best available?

For sure.  There's only like two top 100 players available for 2007.  He's just out of the 2006 top 100.

[ksu_FAN]

#85 RSCI.  Definately best available at this time.

[chum1]

I think that answers the initial question.

[Saulbadguy]

Why is he transferring from FSU?

[michigancat]

Why is he transferring from FSU?

PT

[yosh]

No question that we should go after him.  He was RSCI #85.  What a steal.  This guy would go a long way to having a strong team post Beasley/Walker/Hoskins.  The backcourt would be set for the next three years with Pullen, Brown, Shipman, Soto & Sutton (I've decided he'll play some at the 2).  We're really going to need some bigs in the 08 class though.  

 http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/RSCI_100_PostSeason_2006.htm 

[michigancat]

Of the players we have a shot with, wouldn't he be considered the best available?

Edit:  Except for Tyree.

[ksu_FAN]

Soto does have a Willingham-esque extremely high rating from hoopscoop (38).  Don't know if that is good or not.

[chum1]

Of the players we have a shot with, wouldn't he be considered the best available?

Edit:  Except for Tyree.

Isn't his status that KSU can't be ruled out becuase he is such a loose cannon?  I guess that means we have a shot with him, but not really the kind I had in mind.

[WildWillie21]

2006 Florida Gatorade P.O.Y. with JB in the same state. Jump on this kid.

[WildCatzPhreak]

So what's the story on the kid?  2006 PG from Florida, transferring from Florida State because of playing time?  That'd be a great PG for us, but it's too bad he has to sit out a year because of the transfer rule.  We could really use a great ball handling PG on next years team with Beasley, Walker, and Hoskins.

At least we have good Florida connections.

[catsfan20012002]

http://www.kansas.com/248/story/53464.html

Frank Martin compares Soto to Jose Juan Barea, whom Martin lured to Northeastern when he was an assistant. Soto was the 2006 Gatorade Player of the Year in Florida. He averaged 18 points and 10 assists, guiding the Apaches to a 52-6 record and two state titles during his two seasons at ACD. But with the Seminoles, he never got started. Stuck behind experienced guards Toney Douglas and Isaiah Swann, Soto saw action in 13 games, averaging 0.7 points and 0.8 rebounds in 4.2 minutes.

The book on Soto is that he's a pass-first point guard -- even though Alvarez said Soto dropped 42 on current North Carolina point guard Tywon Lawson during an AAU tournament. If so, he'd be a quality addition for the Wildcats, even though he'd have to sit out the 2007-08 season under NCAA transfer guidelines. Clent Stewart will be gone, as will Blake Young.

[ksu_FAN]

I like the Florida connections.  Alvarez is the poster boy for what a "handler" is though.  Not saying its good or bad, it is what it is. 

[yosh]

Just watched his vids from Rivals.  There is a bunch there... all free to watch.  He looks like he can create shots.  Showed great range shooting the ball. Great ball handler.  Reminded me a Larry Reid at times.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=22020&Sport=2#videos

 

[sys]

seems like a nice player.  timing is a little odd though, to get 3 1ish guards in the same class.  unless brown or pullen is not going to qualify.

[michigancat]

seems like a nice player.  timing is a little odd though, to get 3 1ish guards in the same class.  unless brown or pullen is not going to qualify.

I'd just as soon have every guard be 1ish, as long as they don't kill you defensively.

[sys]

seems like a nice player.  timing is a little odd though, to get 3 1ish guards in the same class.  unless brown or pullen is not going to qualify.

I'd just as soon have every guard be 1ish, as long as they don't kill you defensively.

6'4" 1ish yes, 5'11" 1ish no.  which i guess is what you are saying with the defense thing.

[michigancat]

seems like a nice player.  timing is a little odd though, to get 3 1ish guards in the same class.  unless brown or pullen is not going to qualify.

I'd just as soon have every guard be 1ish, as long as they don't kill you defensively.

6'4" 1ish yes, 5'11" 1ish no.  which i guess is what you are saying with the defense thing.

Isn't Fred Brown a "long" 6-3?

I don't think having two players on the court right around 6-0 hurts you all that much.  If teams were smart and would post up a 6-4 guard on a 5-11 guard, it might.  But they don't, so it doesn't.

[sys]

yeah brown is supposed to be something like that.  he looked smaller to me when he was in on his visit though.  pullen looks really small.

i think the size of ut's guards hurt them at times this season.

[michigancat]

yeah brown is supposed to be something like that.  he looked smaller to me when he was in on his visit though.  pullen looks really small.

i think the size of ut's guards hurt them at times this season.

Probably, but they went 6-2, 5-11, 5-10.  That's kind of extreme.

[power4PURPLE]

we dont need a guard, no matter what rank he is. the only reason we should even consider one is if somebody wasn't going to qualify or something (i think someone said that earlier).

the 2 guys we need to concentrate on are Victor aka- the russian rampage, and finally get an offer out to Tearon Hill!!!! is that so much to ask?

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=44624

[michigancat]

we dont need a guard, no matter what rank he is. the only reason we should even consider one is if somebody wasn't going to qualify or something (i think someone said that earlier).

the 2 guys we need to concentrate on are Victor aka- the russian rampage, and finally get an offer out to Tearon Hill!!!! is that so much to ask?

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=44624

You should always get the best player available.  Plus, this guy is essentially the first member of our 2008 class.  With Stewart, Young, and Walker (likely) leaving, there is no reason to not have another guard with three years of eligibility in 08-09.

[ksu_FAN]

Rusty is correct.  Get best available with one ship and the other one whatever they can find.  I'd take the Russian kid or the best available big.  But in any case, I think we are in best available mode for any scholarship we have. 

[sys]

i don't agree.  if you can't get a player that fills a need (eg., really good shooter), bank the scholly for 08.  unless you are getting a player as good as, or better than what you expect in 08.

top 100 rsci qualifies as as good as an expected 08, i just like bigger guards.