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April 20, 2007, 09:07:25 AM
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And how much should he have?

I really hope we don't try to park Beasley at the block with his back to the basket every time down the court.  That would completely waste his perimeter skills (great for his size).

At the same time, he can't be jacking 10 three's a game, either.

Should Frank just use the Durant model, only try to get Hoskins and Walker more involved?  Durant had a pretty nice balance, IMO.

April 20, 2007, 09:11:36 AM
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Were going to have such a "go to guy" offense next year.

April 20, 2007, 09:25:41 AM
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Offense should run through Hoskins and then Beasley.  From the little that I've seen (some video, and allstar games) it seems like Beasley can be dominant off the glass, working his way in for put backs and at times looks to be impossible to box out.  I don't think we should worry about him trying to create everything, we just need to run the offense, and get it to him when he's open.

April 20, 2007, 09:29:46 AM
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Offense should run through Hoskins and then Beasley.

Please stick to....the endzone dive (?).

April 20, 2007, 09:31:57 AM
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The best part about having Beasley is the matchup problems he will create.  If teams try to put a bigger, less mobile guy on him to eliminate his low post scoring, he can take him outside.  If teams put a smaller, quicker player on him, he can dominate him in the post.  To an extent, its the same with Hoskins and Walker, especially if they both develop more of an outside shot.  If hoskins and Walker can hit around 35% from 3 next year, we will be very very hard to beat.  I'm not saying it will happen, but the matchup problems having those three on the floor would create would be nightmares for opposing teams.  

April 20, 2007, 09:35:12 AM
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Offense should run through Hoskins and then Beasley.

Please stick to....the endzone dive (?).

I think he'll have a big adjustment in the big 12.

April 20, 2007, 09:49:43 AM
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Rotate all three of the forwards in and out of the post.  The only thing I would consider limiting in terms of Beasley's freedom would be running the break.  He really likes to do it at the highschool level, and he's not bad at it, but I'd much rather have him finishing the fastbreak, than leading it.  Trying to turn him into Manny Dies would be a complete waste of his talent...especially since both Hoskins and Walker can play down low as well.
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April 20, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
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And how much should he have?

I really hope we don't try to park Beasley at the block with his back to the basket every time down the court.  That would completely waste his perimeter skills (great for his size).

At the same time, he can't be jacking 10 three's a game, either.

Should Frank just use the Durant model, only try to get Hoskins and Walker more involved?  Durant had a pretty nice balance, IMO.

We should run the motion offense with no true post just like we did for most of last year.  We'll have the same kind of team only bigger and more talented with some guys that can actually get their own shot.  Offense isn't a big concern for me next year the key is going to be matching up with people and playing defense.   Someone is going to have to guard the Alex Maric's of the world and Beasley needs some work on his defense. 

April 20, 2007, 09:57:16 AM
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And how much should he have?

I really hope we don't try to park Beasley at the block with his back to the basket every time down the court.  That would completely waste his perimeter skills (great for his size).

At the same time, he can't be jacking 10 three's a game, either.

Should Frank just use the Durant model, only try to get Hoskins and Walker more involved?  Durant had a pretty nice balance, IMO.

We should run the motion offense with no true post just like we did for most of last year.  We'll have the same kind of team only bigger and more talented with some guys that can actually get their own shot.  Offense isn't a big concern for me next year the key is going to be matching up with people and playing defense.   Someone is going to have to guard the Alex Maric's of the world and Beasley needs some work on his defense. 

Why won't that Big dumb Aussie go league?

I'm really not worried about he Maric's of the world, because there's really only three or four guys in the league that can create serious problems on the block: Maric, Jones, Arthur (maybe), and the new Griffin (maybe).

April 20, 2007, 10:03:33 AM
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And how much should he have?

I really hope we don't try to park Beasley at the block with his back to the basket every time down the court.  That would completely waste his perimeter skills (great for his size).

At the same time, he can't be jacking 10 three's a game, either.

Should Frank just use the Durant model, only try to get Hoskins and Walker more involved?  Durant had a pretty nice balance, IMO.

We should run the motion offense with no true post just like we did for most of last year.  We'll have the same kind of team only bigger and more talented with some guys that can actually get their own shot.  Offense isn't a big concern for me next year the key is going to be matching up with people and playing defense.   Someone is going to have to guard the Alex Maric's of the world and Beasley needs some work on his defense. 

Why won't that Big dumb Aussie go league?

I'm really not worried about he Maric's of the world, because there's really only three or four guys in the league that can create serious problems on the block: Maric, Jones, Arthur (maybe), and the new Griffin (maybe).

Yeah, I don't see how he improves his stock much.  My concern with Beas is that with his size he will have trouble at first with some big guys of the league, he won't be used to the type of physicality that he will face.  I dont' think durrant had to deal with that very much because he was on the wings so much.

April 20, 2007, 10:13:12 AM
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April 20, 2007, 10:15:18 AM
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Yeah, I don't see how he improves his stock much.  My concern with Beas is that with his size he will have trouble at first with some big guys of the league, he won't be used to the type of physicality that he will face.  I dont' think durrant had to deal with that very much because he was on the wings so much.

In practice, put Colon on him all the time and don't call any fouls on Colon.  Just have Colon beat the crap out of him.

I'm not worried about physical play and Beasley, though.

April 20, 2007, 10:20:15 AM
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I like the idea of the motion offense.  We don't have a true post player, and we shouldn't be playing as if we do.  Use the motion to create mismatches.  Walker and Beasley can both hit the outside shot.  They can both score in the post.  Hoskins is the same way, to a lesser extent, in both categories.

April 20, 2007, 10:23:37 AM
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Beasley seems to like to bang down low about as much as Durant does.

April 20, 2007, 11:02:38 AM
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Beasley seems to like to bang down low about as much as Durant does.

After a summer w/ Mr. Clean, I think MB will like his new found strength and won't shy away from anyone.  I am very interested in how much better he plays while fit - oh, and interested. 

April 20, 2007, 11:07:48 AM
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I think it will be all about exploiting matchups next year.  We'll try to run more to use our athleticism but, otherwise, we'll see where the advantage is and ride it until they go zone (which may be early).  Then we'll see if Walker can hit 40% from 3, if Stewart/Pullen/Brown can hit some threes, if Hoskins has improved his outside shot, and if Beasley can work against the zone...and hit some 3's.  The difficult part against the zones we are likely to see is patience and finding the right look, and not JUST settling for any old 3.  We should still be able to do damage inside, as well as, HOPEFULLY, outside.  If we can get enough slashing to create looks against the zones.  The only ways to get good looks are slashing into the zone, or crisp passing and rotation.  Those are still IFS, but will be huge against the large number of zones we are likely to see.  

April 20, 2007, 11:57:51 AM
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make him play defense, offensively let him do whatever he wants, including waving the other players to the bench.

i don't think authur, and especially griffen are that big of postup threats.  jones is a horse, speaking of why the hell a player won't go league.  what the hell is he thinking?  it isn't like he's going to get any better.  and his knees are just going to get worse.
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April 20, 2007, 12:01:32 PM
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i don't think authur, and especially griffen are that big of postup threats.  jones is a horse, speaking of why the hell a player won't go league.  what the hell is he thinking?  it isn't like he's going to get any better.  and his knees are just going to get worse.

I'm talking about McDAA Blake Griffin, not his loser brother.

April 20, 2007, 12:04:48 PM
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me too, though his loser brother is a good example of why griffen isn't going to be dominating people in the post.  great athlete, poor skills.  maybe in a year or two.  though his loser brother hasn't really developed skills in that same time frame.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

April 20, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
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The younger brother is bigger, more physical.

April 20, 2007, 12:07:00 PM
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yeah, he is a much better prospect.  if he does develop skills he will be really good.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

April 20, 2007, 01:53:51 PM
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Offense should run through Hoskins and then Beasley.

Please stick to....the endzone dive (?).

I think he'll have a big adjustment in the big 12.

That's what I'm interested in seeing.  What's Beasley going to do when he runs into players that have the same skills he has.  Then we get to see how strong his head is.

April 20, 2007, 01:56:34 PM
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Offense should run through Hoskins and then Beasley.

Please stick to....the endzone dive (?).

I think he'll have a big adjustment in the big 12.

That's what I'm interested in seeing.  What's Beasley going to do when he runs into players that have the same skills he has.   Then we get to see how strong his head is.

We won't know that until he goes to the NBA.
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April 21, 2007, 10:05:35 PM
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Just have only Walker and Beas on the floor, and run a 2 on 5 game
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