Chiefs Draft

[catsfan20012002]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2833079

ESPN.com did a Four Round NFL Mock Draft and here are the Chiefs picks:

1st - Robert Meachem/WR/Tennessee
2nd - Justin Blalock/OL/Texas
3rd - Kenny Scott/CB/Georgia Tech
4th - No 4th Round Pick

Looks like we're going to at least start the draft by revamping our offense.

[jeffy]

Since when did a Texas lineman ever end up worth a crap?  That would be so typical Chiefs.

[catsfan20012002]

Since when did a Texas lineman ever end up worth a crap?  That would be so typical Chiefs.

Leonard Davis, Derrick Dockery, Jonathan Scott and Mike Williams are all doing just fine. They've got to get younger on offense so an offensive linemen might not be a bad place to start. I, for one, have them taking Ryan Kalil in my latest mock draft.

[catsfan20012002]

They've gone back and redone it but this time they do all 7 Rounds:

1st - Robert Meachem/WR/Tennessee
2nd - Tanard Jackson/CB/Syracuse
3rd - Marshal Yanda/OT/Iowa
5th - Chris Leak/QB/Florida
6th - Brent Curvey/DT/Iowa State
7th - Noland Burchette/DE/Virginia

[catsfan20012002]

I went back and redid my mock draft. Any chance we can land Jarvis Moss/DE/Florida?

[jeffy]

Since when did a Texas lineman ever end up worth a crap?  That would be so typical Chiefs.

Leonard Davis, Derrick Dockery, Jonathan Scott and Mike Williams are all doing just fine. They've got to get younger on offense so an offensive linemen might not be a bad place to start. I, for one, have them taking Ryan Kalil in my latest mock draft.

Ummm.... Davis and Williams are considered busts.  I wouldn't say they are doing just fine.  Don't know anything about Dockery or Scott.

[WildWillie21]

Chris Leak...

[coitus]

leonard davis has been a starter since his rookie year.  he just signed a contract that gets him $24m over the first three years.  the only knock on him is that he may be better suited at guard.  it's hard to say a bust signs a fa  contract for $8m per.  he got more in free agency than 2 time pro-bowler eric steinbach.  and he's a former pro-bowler himself. 

mike williams certainly qualifies as a bust.

[fatty fat fat]

dumbasses.

[J Rake]

This draft is a repeat of 2003.

The Chiefs have holes at about four different positions, and Carl is stuck worring about his Pro Bowl RB.

If he drafts a RB for "contract leverage" as he did in '03 when he took LJ to stick it to Priest, I'll kill him ... cause this time it won't work. LJ is not injured; Priest was. LJ is not old; Priest was. LJ is not classy; Priest was.

Just pay the man, Carl.

[fatty fat fat]

FIRE CARL!

CHEIFS AND CHOPPER!

[coitus]

if there's a rb taken on the first day.....

well, i really won't do anything.  i'm still a chiefs fan, but have distanced myself emotionally since the marty fiasco.

it's kinda like being married, only with football.  and beer.

[catsfan20012002]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2846177

They have the possibilities for the Chiefs at #23 as DT Justin Harrell (who they have as the pick), CB Chris Houston and OT Joe Staley. They mention the possibility of taking a WR like Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meachem (or how about Dwayne Jarrett?) but WR is a position that is really deep in this draft so there will be plenty of good options at WR later in the draft. 

[rundown87]

mock draft:

1.) does not matter
2.) someone who will make their team suck even worse, probably a bust DL...again
3.) a wide receiver with no hands. . .again
4.) might as well join the CFL

the broncos are going to sweep the chiefs...finally (you have to admit, denver got a lot better, cutler has a cannon, the chiefs are losing their best part of their team (OL) and now LJ will have to try and get the yards himself, and they again will not help themselves in the draft, and they don't have a qb.

just start rooting for denver or something maybe you guys will know what it's like to have your team win the superbowl.

[jeffy]

LJ will be traded for multiple draft picks.

[QuinnMac]

mock draft:

1.) does not matter
2.) someone who will make their team suck even worse, probably a bust DL...again
3.) a wide receiver with no hands. . .again
4.) might as well join the CFL

the broncos are going to sweep the chiefs...finally (you have to admit, denver got a lot better, cutler has a cannon, the chiefs are losing their best part of their team (OL) and now LJ will have to try and get the yards himself, and they again will not help themselves in the draft, and they don't have a qb.

just start rooting for denver or something maybe you guys will know what it's like to have your team win the superbowl.

Didn't Ryan Leaf and Todd Marinovich have strong arms?

Finally?  I don't think so not until you can stop the run, LJ is a beast he could run behing the Cats o-line and beat the donkeys.

[QuinnMac]

BTW Green needs to be traded for a pick, hopefully a third, i'd take a fourth round.  I hear they're asking for a second and seventh and that just isn't likely to happen.

[J Rake]

The Dolphins got a 2nd and a 7th out of New England for Wes Welker. That's not a typo.

CP is in total control here. Miami desperately has to have a QB, and it's pretty obvious that Green is the only option:

1) Miami already worked out a deal w/ Green
2) Cam Cameron is familiar w/ Green and wants him in Miami
3) There isn't anybody else available; Miami doesn't want to waste its RD 1 pick on a QB

The only way Miami can somehow screw the Chiefs is if Brady Quinn were to somehow fall out of the Top 6. Then KC might have to force the trade out of fear that the Dolphins would simply just draft Quinn. That's not a realistic possibility though. I think KC ends up getting a middle round pick out of Miami (a 2nd is NOT out of the question), and probably a pick for the '08 Draft. It should be an interesting day, though.

If KC could get a trade worked out w/ Miami early enough, I could see them getting creative. Trading up (for the first time since '02) is possible.

EDIT: LJ can't get traded.

[waks]

just start rooting for denver or something maybe you guys will know what it's like to have your team win the superbowl.

This post just reeks of a Jayhawk-esque odor. I would rather the Chiefs be historically as bad as the Saints than have John Elway ever wear a KC uniform.

[J Rake]

Also, FWIW:

Johnson's contract in KC was supposed to run thru 2009, but he was eligible to void the final two years of his contract ... which he did. That means he's a free agent after '07. So KC's interest in drafting a RB has to be real. That said, IDK if they'll be able to trade LJ. Some team would have to agree on compensation w/ KC, as well as signing him to a long-term contract. Not going to happen in less than a week.

[catsfan20012002]

There's talk that if Trent Green goes to Miami.....The Raiders would go after Daunte Culpepper which would allow them to draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 pick.

[waks]

There's talk that if Trent Green goes to Miami.....The Raiders would go after Daunte Culpepper which would allow them to draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 pick.

Chances are that the Raiders won't have that opportunity. The Trent Green deal isn't going to be made until the last minute because the Dolphins are going to wait and see if Quin gets picked up before their pick.

[J Rake]

Just an update on LJ: he's officially on the trading block.

The interested teams?

Cleveland
Green Bay
Tennessee
Buffalo
N.Y. Giants

I still can't see CP getting a deal done prior to the draft, but if he can ... wow.
The Chiefs would get a RD 1 pick — and a relatively high one at that — for LJ, plus another 1st day pick.
Add to that the possibility of getting a RD 2 pick out of Green.

KC could end up with 5 picks in the top 55 on Day One ... not to mention a RD 3 pick.

Scary to think of how CP would mess it all up, but damn that's compelling.

EDIT: LJ still has no chance of getting traded, though

[jeffy]

There's talk that if Trent Green goes to Miami.....The Raiders would go after Daunte Culpepper which would allow them to draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 pick.

Chances are that the Raiders won't have that opportunity. The Trent Green deal isn't going to be made until the last minute because the Dolphins are going to wait and see if Quin gets picked up before their pick.

ESPN was talking tonite about the Raiders doing a lot of talking with Quinn.  That is great news for everyone.  Quinn is the next Ryan Leaf.  Come on, Raiders, take Quinn!

[coitus]

no way the chiefs get a first day pick out of green.

[catsfan20012002]

If somebody wants him they better give up a 2nd Rounder

[fatty fat fat]

no way the chiefs get a first day pick out of green.

The Dolphins are stupid w/ draft picks. Why? Because their GM is Randy Mueller, the man who has no regard for draft picks, and has traded them like baseball cards over the years. Yes, I know Mike Ditka was the main man behind it, but the fact that Mueller -- who was in the Saints front office at the time -- OK'd a deal on a draft-day trade to get Ricky Williams crushes any credibility he could have. Recap:

The Saints traded up from #12 to #5 (w/ the Redskins) in the 1999 Draft to get Ricky Williams. They gave up their 1st RD (#12), 2nd RD, 3rd RD, 5th RD, 6th RD, 7th RD ... 2000's 1st RD, 3rd RD picks. All of that to move up 7 spots in the draft? Ditka's day was done by the fifth pick. Everybody from N.O. just went home. Mueller deserves credit for getting two RD 1 picks back from Miami in a later trade for Williams, I'll give him that. But he's still an incompetent GM.

I'm pretty sure KC will get a Day One pick.

you know 100X more about the chiefs than KSU basketball/football.

pathetic.

[waks]

no way the chiefs get a first day pick out of green.

The Dolphins are stupid w/ draft picks. Why? Because their GM is Randy Mueller, the man who has no regard for draft picks, and has traded them like baseball cards over the years. Yes, I know Mike Ditka was the main man behind it, but the fact that Mueller -- who was in the Saints front office at the time -- OK'd a deal on a draft-day trade to get Ricky Williams crushes any credibility he could have. Recap:

The Saints traded up from #12 to #5 (w/ the Redskins) in the 1999 Draft to get Ricky Williams. They gave up their 1st RD (#12), 2nd RD, 3rd RD, 5th RD, 6th RD, 7th RD ... 2000's 1st RD, 3rd RD picks. All of that to move up 7 spots in the draft? Ditka's day was done by the fifth pick. Everybody from N.O. just went home. Mueller deserves credit for getting two RD 1 picks back from Miami in a later trade for Williams, I'll give him that. But he's still an incompetent GM.

I'm pretty sure KC will get a Day One pick.

you know 100X more about the chiefs than KSU basketball/football.

pathetic.

That's how all OP K-State fans are...

[catsfan20012002]

The latest draft on ESPN.com has the Chiefs taking Joe Staley/OT/CENTRAL MICHIGAN

[catsfan20012002]

http://cjonline.com/stories/042707/chi_165982308.shtml

We know that the draft will be used to rebuild the Chiefs but there's evidence that the rebuilding process has already begun and it's starting off well. DE Tamba Hali and SS Bernard Pollard came in the 2006 NFL Draft and OLB Derrick Johnson came in the 2005 NFL Draft.

A good way for the Chiefs to go would be as follows:

1st - Justin Harrell/DT/Tennessee
2nd - Craig Davis/WR/LSU
3rd - Michael Bush/RB/Louisville (could we trade L.J. and/or Trent and move up in Round 1?)
5th - Chase Pittman/DE/LSU and Yamon Figurs/WR/K-State (would be perfect to replace Dante Hall)
6th - Dan Santucci, OG, Notre Dame
7th - Cameron Stephenson/C/Iowa State

We'd be lots better up front, on both sides of the ball, we'd finally have someone for the QB, whomever it is, to throw the ball to and we'd replace L.J. if we decide to trade him. Seems like a good plan to me.