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April 02, 2007, 07:53:24 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 07:51:14 AM

Making the NIT means that you are probably in the top third of all basketball programs.  Making the Texas Bowl means that you might be in the top half of all football programs.  FWIW.

True, but 5/8ths of D-1 college basketball teams shouldn't be d-1.

And that doesn't change the fact that it's alot easier to get excited for a bowl game over the NIT.
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April 02, 2007, 08:00:40 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team.  (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.")  I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two. 
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April 02, 2007, 08:02:30 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 02, 2007, 07:51:56 AM
That's cool that it's your personal preference, but there is no denying that football is king.

FF ratings vs. BCSCG ratings?

I don't know.
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April 02, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.

I realize our basketball team is better, will be better...yet I am consistent in saying football is king and I'd rather have a "DOD*" in football than basketball.

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April 02, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
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Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 02, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.

NFL network vs. ESPN?
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April 02, 2007, 08:10:49 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 02, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.

NFL network vs. ESPN?

That's really dumb logic, and the kind of posting that got you banned at phog.net, sir.

Local media coverage, national, etc... It's not even close.

Would you see a 30 minute pregame show for an NIT game on one of the local stations?***

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April 02, 2007, 08:12:10 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 08:00:40 AM
Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team.  (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.")  I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two. 

You sound like you're recruiting for a don't pay attention to football cult.  And in the Big XII, football will always be king.  
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April 02, 2007, 08:13:39 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 02, 2007, 08:10:49 AM
That's really dumb logic, and the kind of posting that got you banned at phog.net, sir.

Local media coverage, national, etc... It's not even close.

Would you see a 30 minute pregame show for an NIT game on one of the local stations?***

***thank you nick griffith

Oh, well.  Thank god we won't have to worry about NIT's any more.
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April 02, 2007, 08:19:44 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: Pittcat on April 02, 2007, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 08:00:40 AM
Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team.  (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.")  I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two. 

You sound like you're recruiting for a don't pay attention to football cult.  And in the Big XII, football will always be king.  

I'm not recruiting.  I fully understand that nothing I say will have any affect on our idoitic fans.  Most of them probably wouldn't grasp the point I was making anyway.
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April 02, 2007, 08:28:41 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 07:40:32 AM
Quote from: jmlynch1 on April 01, 2007, 10:02:25 PM
Snyder has skewed all of your minds

I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball.  I do.  Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason.  They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it.  You people are idiots.  You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good.  I will have no sympathy for you.


keep getting excited for bball, until we have an elite 8 run or FF run(doubt it) then Huggs will be off and we'll be irrelevant once again and only have our mediocre fb team to cheer for.
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April 02, 2007, 08:34:32 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: cireksu on April 02, 2007, 08:28:41 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 07:40:32 AM
Quote from: jmlynch1 on April 01, 2007, 10:02:25 PM
Snyder has skewed all of your minds

I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball.  I do.  Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason.  They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it.  You people are idiots.  You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good.  I will have no sympathy for you.


keep getting excited for bball, until we have an elite 8 run or FF run(doubt it) then Huggs will be off and we'll be irrelevant once again and only have our mediocre fb team to cheer for.

Yeah, coaches that lead their teams to Final Fours jump ship all the time.  (There's one obvious, LOL exception.)
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April 02, 2007, 08:37:59 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
I realize what what you're saying chum1, and a lot of people won't understand what you were trying to say and blindly follow our FB team because of the years of national prominance.  Check out my remarks earlier on this thread, my argument took a broad aspect not a narrow KSU aspect.  When I say FB > BB I mean the sport, not the program.  FWIW  My parents went to KSU's first ever bowl game, not the Copper bowl, the 1982 Inependance Bowl.  I would've gone but I was a little young.  Point is, my family's been KSU football fans since before being a KSU football fan was cool.
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April 02, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
I like both.  They really only "compete" in november for maybe a week or two, so I don't see what the issue is.  And as far as if you had to choose which to go to if both were playing at the same time, it would probably be based on the opponent.  For example if FB was vs UT and BB was vs Chicago State, I'd go to FB.  If FB was vs Iowa State and BB was vs Oregon, I'd go to BB.  

FWIW, after watching us beat OU for the Big 12 title in 98, I soon listened to our multi-OT loss to Oregon State in basketball.  
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April 02, 2007, 08:40:35 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Basketball would never ever ever draw 109000 people to a game.  EVER.
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April 02, 2007, 08:42:38 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: cireksu on April 02, 2007, 08:40:35 AM
Basketball would never ever ever draw 109000 people to a game.  EVER.

Only because it would be unwatchable in a 109000 seat stadium.
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April 02, 2007, 08:45:49 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Yeah, they're just different.  The comparison of a 10-15K arena for basketball vs a 50-100K stadium for football is really apples and oranges and maybe even more like apples and ball bearings.
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April 02, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Why aren't there more 20,000 seat arena's?
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April 02, 2007, 08:48:04 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: cireksu on April 02, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Why aren't there more 20,000 seat arena's?

For the same reason there aren't more 80,000 seat stadiums.
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April 02, 2007, 08:52:29 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
It's because basketball is not as fun to watch as football to the majority of sports fans.
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April 02, 2007, 08:55:30 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: cireksu on April 02, 2007, 08:52:29 AM
It's because basketball is not as fun to watch as football to the majority of sports fans.

Football is much more popular.  You're making a horrible case for it, though, and this has little to do with the overall merit of the sport.
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April 02, 2007, 08:57:55 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
The vast majority of sports followers regardless of the team they're watching would rather see a bone-crushing hit from a middle linebacker than a steal finished off by a showy dunk.  ie.  FB>>>>>>>>>BB
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April 02, 2007, 08:58:59 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Whichever sport we're better at is my favorite.
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April 02, 2007, 08:59:30 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: Pittcat on April 02, 2007, 08:57:55 AM
The vast majority of sports followers regardless of the team they're watching would rather see a bone-crushing hit from a middle linebacker than a steal finished off by a showy dunk.  ie.  FB>>>>>>>>>BB

^You can't argue with statistics, folks.
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April 02, 2007, 09:03:01 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: catdude33 on April 02, 2007, 08:58:59 AM
Whichever sport we're better at is my favorite.

Point of clarification:  fans that are honest about this aren't idiots.  I have no problem with that statement at all.
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April 02, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 08:59:30 AM
You can't argue with statistics, folks.

Hugginistas:  65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium:  34118 Posts, 3054 Topics
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April 02, 2007, 09:05:50 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 08:59:30 AM
You can't argue with statistics, folks.

Hugginistas:  65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium:  34118 Posts, 3054 Topics

NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WHEN STATISTICS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER!!!
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April 02, 2007, 09:08:05 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 09:05:50 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 08:59:30 AM
You can't argue with statistics, folks.

Hugginistas:  65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium:  34118 Posts, 3054 Topics

NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WHEN STATISTICS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER!!!

To be fair, the board has only been around for one full FB season and originated after Prince was hired.  For basketball it was about 1 full season and 1/3 of another, plus the Huggins hiring and process.  So those stats might need an *.
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April 02, 2007, 09:11:35 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Quote from: chum1 on April 02, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Rusty on April 02, 2007, 08:59:30 AM
You can't argue with statistics, folks.

Hugginistas:  65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium:  34118 Posts, 3054 Topics

And ksufans.com is a miniscule piece of the pie in regards to fan base for sports.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2007, 09:32:48 AM by Pittcat »
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April 02, 2007, 09:11:57 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
when we are better at bball than football I will long for football to be good again.  If football is better than bball,  meh, nothing else matters.
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April 02, 2007, 09:22:42 AM
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Re: It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.
Mostly in big 12 country. It's much more satisfying to beat teams like OU/NU/UT in football. Their world falls apart. It's hilarious.

Beat them in basketball, and no one cares.
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